From mwhornblower at gmail.com  Fri May  1 14:26:38 2026
From: mwhornblower at gmail.com (Matt Wilson)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 13:26:38 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising winch issues
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Hello everyone.  Wondering if my email went through.  I am obviously not
very mechanically minded. If anyone can give me any help about the winch,
the Mast raising winch that would be wonderful.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 4:05?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> So glad the list is chirping with the sounds of spring!  Hope you are
> sailing soon if not already.
>
> Last fall when I was attempting to lower my mast with the winch will only
> pay out a few inches of line before the handle started to unscrew.  I
> managed to get it down by tightening the nut on the handle side of the
> winch but the same thing seems to be happening now. It seems like it
> catches just fine to raise the mask so I should be fine this spring, but is
> there something that needs adjusting or replacing from your experience?
>
> The nut on the handle Sides has a spring and the shaft of that bolt/nut
> combo sticks out about an inch and a half or so. is that normal?
>
> I believe this is the original mask raising system from General boats. The
> winch housing says Shelly on it.
>
> Thanks for whatever help you can give,
> Matt Wilson
> Hornblower II
> White Bear Lake, Minnesota
>

From RUEHBL at msn.com  Fri May  1 15:20:36 2026
From: RUEHBL at msn.com (BARRY RUEHLEN)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 19:20:36 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising winch issues
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Your email is going through. Unfortunately I can't help with the real problem.


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2026 2:26:38 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising winch issues

Hello everyone.  Wondering if my email went through.  I am obviously not
very mechanically minded. If anyone can give me any help about the winch,
the Mast raising winch that would be wonderful.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 4:05?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> So glad the list is chirping with the sounds of spring!  Hope you are
> sailing soon if not already.
>
> Last fall when I was attempting to lower my mast with the winch will only
> pay out a few inches of line before the handle started to unscrew.  I
> managed to get it down by tightening the nut on the handle side of the
> winch but the same thing seems to be happening now. It seems like it
> catches just fine to raise the mask so I should be fine this spring, but is
> there something that needs adjusting or replacing from your experience?
>
> The nut on the handle Sides has a spring and the shaft of that bolt/nut
> combo sticks out about an inch and a half or so. is that normal?
>
> I believe this is the original mask raising system from General boats. The
> winch housing says Shelly on it.
>
> Thanks for whatever help you can give,
> Matt Wilson
> Hornblower II
> White Bear Lake, Minnesota
>

From shawn.sustain at gmail.com  Fri May  1 15:45:01 2026
From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 12:45:01 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Spring
Message-ID: <CAMzGxuPg5bHPN8kWSpMq7LeZywYkP5=U6ODqzPrzkg4MyGh1RA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all:

Just put the boat in for the season at Fern Ridge Reservoir outside of
Eugene,  Oregon.

In doing so I discovered  that I am much less steady on the boat than in
the past. This is due in part to the fact that I lost the lens in my left
eye as a result of a surgical mishap, and with it much of my depth
perception. Fortunately Stan built a boat that even the old and infirm can
enjoy.

Have a wonderful season everybody!

Cheers
Shawn
s/v Sweet Baboo

From a_czerwonky at yahoo.com  Fri May  1 15:56:13 2026
From: a_czerwonky at yahoo.com (Art Czerwonky)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 19:56:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Spring
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God bless you, Shawn.? I guess we really are getting older, huh? Happy sailing from a Vancouver alum !

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  On Fri, May 1, 2026 at 3:45 PM, Shawn Boles<shawn.sustain at gmail.com> wrote:   Hi all:

Just put the boat in for the season at Fern Ridge Reservoir outside of
Eugene,? Oregon.

In doing so I discovered? that I am much less steady on the boat than in
the past. This is due in part to the fact that I lost the lens in my left
eye as a result of a surgical mishap, and with it much of my depth
perception. Fortunately Stan built a boat that even the old and infirm can
enjoy.

Have a wonderful season everybody!

Cheers
Shawn
s/v Sweet Baboo
  

From bobfcohen at gmail.com  Fri May  1 16:45:21 2026
From: bobfcohen at gmail.com (bobfcohen at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 13:45:21 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sanford Lake News
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Roger -

Sometimes being a Debbie Downer is justified.  It's hard to believe what has happened to you between the flooding, the time to rebuild, and the fact that you may have to pay for it if you lose the appeal.  Having to sell your boat sounds awful.

My Rhodes, "Silver Bay", is docked at Onekama Lake, about 115 miles northwest of Sanford, with an outlet to Lake Michigan.  My wife and I have a summer house near Arcadia (we pass Sanford when we drive up from West Virginia) and we will be there starting mid-June.  If you want to bring "Dynamic Equilibrium" to Onekama or Arcadia Lake (also with an outlet to Lake Michigan) this summer, we ought to be able to arrange docking for awhile or at least launching.  Alternately, you are welcome to drive up and sail with us on "Silver Bay".   I am not terribly skilled and would   certainly benefit from sailing with you.  If you are interested you can reach me at bobfcohen at gmail.com.  

Bob Cohen

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of ROGER PIHLAJA
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2026 6:32 AM
To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Cc: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sanford Lake News

Hi Chris,

Prior to the flood, the 4 dams were owned and operated by Boyce Hydroelectric.  Tge dams were nearly 100 years old.  The flood bankrupted Boyce Hydro.  The 4 dams are now owned by Midland and Gladwin counties.  But, they are managed on behalf of the county governments by the 4 Lakes Association, a group of lakefront property owners.  The 4 Lakes Association convinced the county governments to form the 4 Lakes Special Water District, which gave them the power to levy annual water district assessments to pay for the cleanup, rebuilding, and operations of the 4 dams.  This assessment shows up on my property tax bill every year.  Long story short, the dams were rebuilt and operated by private money.  The 4 Lakes Association is like a super powerful neighborhood homeowner?s association.  Lots of oversight and snooping.

I can?t launch my boat from my property.  But, my subdivision has a launch ramp about 1/4 mile from my house.  No mooring out is allowed.

Of the ~k$90 damages, ~k$45 has already been spent back in 1990 to remove flood debris and stabilize the shoreline.  We were counting on the class action lawsuit settlement to pay for most of the remaining repairs (replacement) to our dock, sea walls, and steps.  We?re retired and living on a fixed income.  With no settlement, we?re going to have to drastically scale back our plans, if we do anything at all.  Another option is to sell the boat.

This is the sort of thing that really shakes one?s faith in the judicial system.

Sorry to be such Debbie Downer; but, I needed to vent!

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
1978. Sanford, MI
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 26, 2026, at 8:18?AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?Wow, Roger,
> That is really bad. Insurance doesn?t cover and though the state built the dams ( is that correct?) they are putting a lot of the burden on you.  Sorry to heat this. Can you launch the Rhodes from your property?  Mooring the boat and dinghy out?  I hope you can get some sailing in soon!
> Chris Geankoplis
> XENOS
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 26, 2026, at 6:59?AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hi All,
>>
>> Nearly 6 years after the 4 dam failures and the subsequent flood, our dam has been rebuilt.  All State and Federal permits have been signed off.  Refilling Sanford Lake commenced on April 15th.  The lake should be at normal summer pool level by Memorial Day.  Secord Lake dam and Smallwood Lake dam are scheduled to be complete and lake filling to commence around Labor Day.  Wixom Lake dam won?t be ready until the summer if 2027.
>>
>> My property taxes have tripled to pay for all this.  The courts have ruled against the property owners in our class action lawsuit vs the State of Michigan.  The property owners will get nothing.  My property losses are about k$90!  + the 3X increased annual taxes!  It?s the biggest financial hit in my life.  Our side is appealing the case; but, this iis certainly not good news.
>>
>> In a final irony, I?m still waiting for the State to approve the permit for my dock.  So, I will have a lake, but no dock this summer.
>>
>> Other than that, life is dull.  I hope you all are having a better spring than me.
>>
>> Roger Pihlaja
>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> 1978. Sanford, MI
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Apr 26, 2026, at 12:58?AM, Paul Rhodes <plrhodes29 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Fellow Rhodes 22 clan members, especially ye who own or have seen a 
>>> boom room with your own eyes, does the attached photo show parts to 
>>> a Boom Room?  We've never seen one beyond a picture lacking much 
>>> detail, but we want one, and if this is part of one, we hope to 
>>> start with it and complete our own.
>>>
>>> If you own a boom room, pictures and other details would be a 
>>> tremendous help!  (If you have one you would like to sell, that's 
>>> even better.)
>>>
>>> May you all have a wonderful start to the 2026 sailing season once 
>>> Puxatawny Phil's six weeks are past,
>>>
>>> Paul and Nancy Rhodes
>>> SV New Mercies
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From a_czerwonky at yahoo.com  Fri May  1 17:58:06 2026
From: a_czerwonky at yahoo.com (Art Czerwonky)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 21:58:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sanford Lake News
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Paul,
I built the boom room for a number of years for the R22, I will look for a picture, and think I have at least an essential for one of my most recent builds. I will forward a picture if I can.?
Ii took greatest pleasure in this work for our fleet skippers, most recently for "Captain" Bob Keller, of Richmond Hill, GA sailing fame. Sadly he sold his? beautiful Rhodes and bought a big yacht to replace.?
The Boom Room about tripled the livable footprint of our boat, providing? a cool breezway on the hottest of summer nights for a comfortable and restful sleep.
Send me your best email address and phone number and I will talk your ears off !
Art Czerwonky?S/Mary Jane
BTW, Roger, I am just sick about your circumstances.? I have never known of a more selfless skipper in our fleet.

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  On Fri, May 1, 2026 at 4:45 PM, bobfcohen at gmail.com<bobfcohen at gmail.com> wrote:   Roger -

Sometimes being a Debbie Downer is justified.? It's hard to believe what has happened to you between the flooding, the time to rebuild, and the fact that you may have to pay for it if you lose the appeal.? Having to sell your boat sounds awful.

My Rhodes, "Silver Bay", is docked at Onekama Lake, about 115 miles northwest of Sanford, with an outlet to Lake Michigan.? My wife and I have a summer house near Arcadia (we pass Sanford when we drive up from West Virginia) and we will be there starting mid-June.? If you want to bring "Dynamic Equilibrium" to Onekama or Arcadia Lake (also with an outlet to Lake Michigan) this summer, we ought to be able to arrange docking for awhile or at least launching.? Alternately, you are welcome to drive up and sail with us on "Silver Bay".? I am not terribly skilled and would? certainly benefit from sailing with you.? If you are interested you can reach me at bobfcohen at gmail.com.? 

Bob Cohen

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of ROGER PIHLAJA
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2026 6:32 AM
To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Cc: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sanford Lake News

Hi Chris,

Prior to the flood, the 4 dams were owned and operated by Boyce Hydroelectric.? Tge dams were nearly 100 years old.? The flood bankrupted Boyce Hydro.? The 4 dams are now owned by Midland and Gladwin counties.? But, they are managed on behalf of the county governments by the 4 Lakes Association, a group of lakefront property owners.? The 4 Lakes Association convinced the county governments to form the 4 Lakes Special Water District, which gave them the power to levy annual water district assessments to pay for the cleanup, rebuilding, and operations of the 4 dams.? This assessment shows up on my property tax bill every year.? Long story short, the dams were rebuilt and operated by private money.? The 4 Lakes Association is like a super powerful neighborhood homeowner?s association.? Lots of oversight and snooping.

I can?t launch my boat from my property.? But, my subdivision has a launch ramp about 1/4 mile from my house.? No mooring out is allowed.

Of the ~k$90 damages, ~k$45 has already been spent back in 1990 to remove flood debris and stabilize the shoreline.? We were counting on the class action lawsuit settlement to pay for most of the remaining repairs (replacement) to our dock, sea walls, and steps.? We?re retired and living on a fixed income.? With no settlement, we?re going to have to drastically scale back our plans, if we do anything at all.? Another option is to sell the boat.

This is the sort of thing that really shakes one?s faith in the judicial system.

Sorry to be such Debbie Downer; but, I needed to vent!

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
1978. Sanford, MI
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 26, 2026, at 8:18?AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?Wow, Roger,
> That is really bad. Insurance doesn?t cover and though the state built the dams ( is that correct?) they are putting a lot of the burden on you.? Sorry to heat this. Can you launch the Rhodes from your property?? Mooring the boat and dinghy out?? I hope you can get some sailing in soon!
> Chris Geankoplis
> XENOS
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 26, 2026, at 6:59?AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hi All,
>>
>> Nearly 6 years after the 4 dam failures and the subsequent flood, our dam has been rebuilt.? All State and Federal permits have been signed off.? Refilling Sanford Lake commenced on April 15th.? The lake should be at normal summer pool level by Memorial Day.? Secord Lake dam and Smallwood Lake dam are scheduled to be complete and lake filling to commence around Labor Day.? Wixom Lake dam won?t be ready until the summer if 2027.
>>
>> My property taxes have tripled to pay for all this.? The courts have ruled against the property owners in our class action lawsuit vs the State of Michigan.? The property owners will get nothing.? My property losses are about k$90!? + the 3X increased annual taxes!? It?s the biggest financial hit in my life.? Our side is appealing the case; but, this iis certainly not good news.
>>
>> In a final irony, I?m still waiting for the State to approve the permit for my dock.? So, I will have a lake, but no dock this summer.
>>
>> Other than that, life is dull.? I hope you all are having a better spring than me.
>>
>> Roger Pihlaja
>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> 1978. Sanford, MI
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Apr 26, 2026, at 12:58?AM, Paul Rhodes <plrhodes29 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Fellow Rhodes 22 clan members, especially ye who own or have seen a 
>>> boom room with your own eyes, does the attached photo show parts to 
>>> a Boom Room?? We've never seen one beyond a picture lacking much 
>>> detail, but we want one, and if this is part of one, we hope to 
>>> start with it and complete our own.
>>>
>>> If you own a boom room, pictures and other details would be a 
>>> tremendous help!? (If you have one you would like to sell, that's 
>>> even better.)
>>>
>>> May you all have a wonderful start to the 2026 sailing season once 
>>> Puxatawny Phil's six weeks are past,
>>>
>>> Paul and Nancy Rhodes
>>> SV New Mercies
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>>> scrubbed...
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From mwhornblower at gmail.com  Fri May  1 19:37:15 2026
From: mwhornblower at gmail.com (Matt Wilson)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 18:37:15 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising winch issues
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Thanks for letting me know it was getting through. If anybody has any
ideas, I?d love to hear them. Thanks so much.

On Fri, May 1, 2026 at 2:29?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <RUEHBL at msn.com> wrote:

> Your email is going through. Unfortunately I can't help with the real
> problem.
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2026 2:26:38 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising winch issues
>
> Hello everyone.  Wondering if my email went through.  I am obviously not
> very mechanically minded. If anyone can give me any help about the winch,
> the Mast raising winch that would be wonderful.
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 4:05?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > So glad the list is chirping with the sounds of spring!  Hope you are
> > sailing soon if not already.
> >
> > Last fall when I was attempting to lower my mast with the winch will only
> > pay out a few inches of line before the handle started to unscrew.  I
> > managed to get it down by tightening the nut on the handle side of the
> > winch but the same thing seems to be happening now. It seems like it
> > catches just fine to raise the mask so I should be fine this spring, but
> is
> > there something that needs adjusting or replacing from your experience?
> >
> > The nut on the handle Sides has a spring and the shaft of that bolt/nut
> > combo sticks out about an inch and a half or so. is that normal?
> >
> > I believe this is the original mask raising system from General boats.
> The
> > winch housing says Shelly on it.
> >
> > Thanks for whatever help you can give,
> > Matt Wilson
> > Hornblower II
> > White Bear Lake, Minnesota
> >
>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sat May  2 10:40:13 2026
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2026 09:40:13 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Spring
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Hey Shawn,
Glad to see you are still out on the lake enjoying the water.  Though a long time ago, I still remember out visit.
Chris Geankoplis
Xenos


> On May 1, 2026, at 2:45?PM, Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> Just put the boat in for the season at Fern Ridge Reservoir outside of
> Eugene,  Oregon.
> 
> In doing so I discovered  that I am much less steady on the boat than in
> the past. This is due in part to the fact that I lost the lens in my left
> eye as a result of a surgical mishap, and with it much of my depth
> perception. Fortunately Stan built a boat that even the old and infirm can
> enjoy.
> 
> Have a wonderful season everybody!
> 
> Cheers
> Shawn
> s/v Sweet Baboo


From ruehbl at msn.com  Sun May  3 07:31:03 2026
From: ruehbl at msn.com (BARRY RUEHLEN)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 11:31:03 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul rigging
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Thanks to Roger, Robert, and Peter for your input pertaining to our outhaul problem. The metal car seems to be the problem. With no forces on the car, it will slide well through the track on the boom top. With any pressure to the side, back, or front it doesn't want to slide at all. We have ordered the new composite car from Charles. Hope that does it.
Best
Barry
Sv Rhodes22 (new name coming soon)
Saint James City, Fl.


________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2026 8:56 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul rigging

Barry,

I have no experience with the metal car.  I wouldn't spend $250 for a new car until the old one has proven itself to be unsatisfactory in some way.

It's good to hear that Charles is still in the parts business though...

--Peter

> On Apr 28, 2026, at 6:41?AM, BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Peter,
> I'll give that a shot. It sounds like trying to incorporate that clew pully function is a problem. We have the old style metal car shown in one of my photos. In your experience are they serviceable or should we invest in the new composite one. Charles has them for $250 or so. Pretty pricey, but if they work I guess it would be worth it.
> Best,
> Barry
>


From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Sun May  3 10:43:33 2026
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Sun, 03 May 2026 10:43:33 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul rigging
Message-ID: <E1wJY2f-0000000DKh6-16tx@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

Barry,

When you get the new car from Charles, please post a picture.  I'm just curious about what the latest and greatest version looks like.

Thanks,

--Peter


[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]

> On 2026-05-03, at 07:31:03 EDT, BARRY RUEHLEN wrote:
>
> Thanks to Roger, Robert, and Peter for your input pertaining to our outhaul 
> problem. The metal car seems to be the problem. With no forces on the car, it 
> will slide well through the track on the boom top. With any pressure to the 
> side, back, or front it doesn't want to slide at all. We have ordered the new 
> composite car from Charles. Hope that does it. 
> Best
> Barry
> Sv Rhodes22 (new name coming soon)
> Saint James City, Fl.
> 
> 
> 



From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Sun May  3 11:53:42 2026
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Sun, 03 May 2026 11:53:42 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising winch issues
Message-ID: <E1wJZ8Y-0000000EX9g-2pdV@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

Matt,

I'm pretty sure that we have the same model Shelly winch (pictures should be attached).  Exactly how this works has always been a mystery to me.  

It is normal for the shaft that the handle pivots around to rotate, but that shouldn't cause it to loosen.  On the side of the housing opposite the handle is a large nylock nut.  This should turn with the shaft.  If it remains stationary when the shaft turns, perhaps it has become stuck to the housing.  As a first step, I would try to loosen that up with some lubricant and elbow grease.

--Peter


[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]

> On 2026-04-30, at 17:05:41 EDT, Matt Wilson wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
> 
> So glad the list is chirping with the sounds of spring!  Hope you are sailing 
> soon if not already. 
> 
> Last fall when I was attempting to lower my mast with the winch will only pay 
> out a few inches of line before the handle started to unscrew.  I managed to get 
> it down by tightening the nut on the handle side of the winch but the same thing 
> seems to be happening now. It seems like it catches just fine to raise the mask 
> so I should be fine this spring, but is there something that needs adjusting or 
> replacing from your experience? 
> 
> The nut on the handle Sides has a spring and the shaft of that bolt/nut combo 
> sticks out about an inch and a half or so. is that normal? 
> 
> I believe this is the original mask raising system from General boats. The winch 
> housing says Shelly on it. 
> 
> Thanks for whatever help you can give,
> Matt Wilson
> Hornblower II
> White Bear Lake, Minnesota
> 


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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Sun May  3 12:02:04 2026
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Sun, 03 May 2026 12:02:04 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22.net is back!
Message-ID: <E1wJZGe-0000000Ej7r-2TO0@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

Well, it was never really gone, but it did stop working.  It stopped showing new posts at the end of November.  This was because there were no posts in December, which upset my archive extraction program.  The recent resurrection of the list inspired me to track down and correct the problem.

For those unaware, rhodes22.net is something I developed to provide a web interface for the email list.  It also has a few other bells and whistles, including a pretty good archive search capability, if I do say so myself.

--Peter

[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]


From rweiss at siu.edu  Sun May  3 14:05:31 2026
From: rweiss at siu.edu (Weiss, Robert L)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 18:05:31 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul rigging
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References: <E1wJY2f-0000000DKh6-16tx@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
Message-ID: <CH3PR07MB9981C80A10BD7CC18B075768C6302@CH3PR07MB9981.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

This is the new version of the car I bought from Stan a few years ago when my original one (below the new one) wore out. It was worth the money. The new one is much stronger and should last longer.

Bob

[cid:13ee8bf2-fdd7-4b03-a10f-21537cfa90a7]

Dr. Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
S/V Beach Spring
________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2026 9:43 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul rigging

[EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.

Barry,

When you get the new car from Charles, please post a picture.  I'm just curious about what the latest and greatest version looks like.

Thanks,

--Peter


[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]

> On 2026-05-03, at 07:31:03 EDT, BARRY RUEHLEN wrote:
>
> Thanks to Roger, Robert, and Peter for your input pertaining to our outhaul
> problem. The metal car seems to be the problem. With no forces on the car, it
> will slide well through the track on the boom top. With any pressure to the
> side, back, or front it doesn't want to slide at all. We have ordered the new
> composite car from Charles. Hope that does it.
> Best
> Barry
> Sv Rhodes22 (new name coming soon)
> Saint James City, Fl.
>
>
>


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From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Sun May  3 17:13:32 2026
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 17:13:32 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising winch issues
In-Reply-To: <CANbEFCtcjuexvzjJsR=sY3q2WY7wd+A4=H7TzxPVFBLqyv=Rvg@mail.gmail.com>
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Matt,

I don't have the same brand of winch, and this year I am going to a power
winch with a fob remote, but I'll give it a shot.

If the handle keeps winding off the driveshaft, it could mean the load on
the winch line is too low...below the winch's minimum load when you were
trying to lower. Before this happens, (the handle unscrewing) you would
probably see the line loosening around the spool and bird nesting. You need
to keep some tension on the line the whole time while paying out line.

The handle should turn counter-cloclwise to lower the load as the spool
turns opposite/clockwise. First make sure the winch drum hasn't been
reversed wound somehow, and that when lowering, the drum spins clockwise,
and opposite of the handle rotation.

Take any slack out of the line around the drum. Try to attach a
heavy/heavier load to the end of the line, and start picking the load. The
handle should screw back onto the shaft before reeling the line back in.
Once the handle screws back on and the line is rewound snugly around the
spool and is tight it should be reset.

You need to keep a load on the line when lowering to keep the handle from
unscrewing.

With a load on the line, as you crank the handle counter-cloclwise, the
handle wants to back off the shaft and therefore release the brake friction
and allow the drum to freewheel. But... the load on the end of the line is
trying to turn the drum opposite/clockwise and tighten the shaft back into
the handle with a force proportionate to the load and this apply brake
friction pressure. When you stop lowering by stopping the handle, the
weight of the load cranks the spool and handle back tight, applying brake
pressure and self holds.

This is the way my winch worked and this is all from memory. I hope this
made sense.

Todd T.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 5:44?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> So glad the list is chirping with the sounds of spring!  Hope you are
> sailing soon if not already.
>
> Last fall when I was attempting to lower my mast with the winch will only
> pay out a few inches of line before the handle started to unscrew.  I
> managed to get it down by tightening the nut on the handle side of the
> winch but the same thing seems to be happening now. It seems like it
> catches just fine to raise the mask so I should be fine this spring, but is
> there something that needs adjusting or replacing from your experience?
>
> The nut on the handle Sides has a spring and the shaft of that bolt/nut
> combo sticks out about an inch and a half or so. is that normal?
>
> I believe this is the original mask raising system from General boats. The
> winch housing says Shelly on it.
>
> Thanks for whatever help you can give,
> Matt Wilson
> Hornblower II
> White Bear Lake, Minnesota
>

From snstaum at gmail.com  Mon May  4 10:41:56 2026
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 10:41:56 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul rigging
In-Reply-To: <CH3PR07MB9981C80A10BD7CC18B075768C6302@CH3PR07MB9981.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
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Dear All,

For what it's worth, I want to share a different solution that has worked
well for me on my last 2 Rhodes 22s.  Both my '87 and my '90 refurb had
problems with the outhaul car.  My '87 broke off the slider and my '90
jammed in the slot as the slot has burrs that will not permit the car to
move smoothly.  In both cases, I eliminated the car entirely and just put a
block (or on my '87 a double block) from the clew to the outhaul line.  The
double block on my '87 gave additional leverage and made pulling the sail
out much easier.  I did not need that on the '90 so went with a single
block.  The only disadvantage is a slight loss of sail shape if the main is
reefed.  I have the option to tie the clew to the boom when reefed with a
simple velcro strap.  This solution is cheaper and makes deploying the
mainsail effortless as long as you keep the wind off the port side.

The marina launched my boat on Friday and I am just waiting until the
detail crew is finished to move it to my mooring.  I hope you all have a
great sailing season.


*Thanks and Stay Well,*

*Stephen Staum*
s/v Pinafore
Needham, MA




On Sun, May 3, 2026 at 5:44?PM Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> This is the new version of the car I bought from Stan a few years ago when
> my original one (below the new one) wore out. It was worth the money. The
> new one is much stronger and should last longer.
>
> Bob
>
> [cid:13ee8bf2-fdd7-4b03-a10f-21537cfa90a7]
>
> Dr. Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> S/V Beach Spring
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2026 9:43 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul rigging
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.
>
> Barry,
>
> When you get the new car from Charles, please post a picture.  I'm just
> curious about what the latest and greatest version looks like.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Peter
>
>
> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>
> > On 2026-05-03, at 07:31:03 EDT, BARRY RUEHLEN wrote:
> >
> > Thanks to Roger, Robert, and Peter for your input pertaining to our
> outhaul
> > problem. The metal car seems to be the problem. With no forces on the
> car, it
> > will slide well through the track on the boom top. With any pressure to
> the
> > side, back, or front it doesn't want to slide at all. We have ordered
> the new
> > composite car from Charles. Hope that does it.
> > Best
> > Barry
> > Sv Rhodes22 (new name coming soon)
> > Saint James City, Fl.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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From mwhornblower at gmail.com  Mon May  4 12:26:38 2026
From: mwhornblower at gmail.com (Matt Wilson)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 11:26:38 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising winch issues
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References: <CANbEFCtcjuexvzjJsR=sY3q2WY7wd+A4=H7TzxPVFBLqyv=Rvg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CANbEFCsyG-k5Hh69KxnkHOA6=jANZ1cCshQ-U5mOg=NfcgjKNg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks everyone!  I really appreciate it!

On Sun, May 3, 2026 at 4:13?PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Matt,
>
> I don't have the same brand of winch, and this year I am going to a power
> winch with a fob remote, but I'll give it a shot.
>
> If the handle keeps winding off the driveshaft, it could mean the load on
> the winch line is too low...below the winch's minimum load when you were
> trying to lower. Before this happens, (the handle unscrewing) you would
> probably see the line loosening around the spool and bird nesting. You need
> to keep some tension on the line the whole time while paying out line.
>
> The handle should turn counter-cloclwise to lower the load as the spool
> turns opposite/clockwise. First make sure the winch drum hasn't been
> reversed wound somehow, and that when lowering, the drum spins clockwise,
> and opposite of the handle rotation.
>
> Take any slack out of the line around the drum. Try to attach a
> heavy/heavier load to the end of the line, and start picking the load. The
> handle should screw back onto the shaft before reeling the line back in.
> Once the handle screws back on and the line is rewound snugly around the
> spool and is tight it should be reset.
>
> You need to keep a load on the line when lowering to keep the handle from
> unscrewing.
>
> With a load on the line, as you crank the handle counter-cloclwise, the
> handle wants to back off the shaft and therefore release the brake friction
> and allow the drum to freewheel. But... the load on the end of the line is
> trying to turn the drum opposite/clockwise and tighten the shaft back into
> the handle with a force proportionate to the load and this apply brake
> friction pressure. When you stop lowering by stopping the handle, the
> weight of the load cranks the spool and handle back tight, applying brake
> pressure and self holds.
>
> This is the way my winch worked and this is all from memory. I hope this
> made sense.
>
> Todd T.
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 5:44?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > So glad the list is chirping with the sounds of spring!  Hope you are
> > sailing soon if not already.
> >
> > Last fall when I was attempting to lower my mast with the winch will only
> > pay out a few inches of line before the handle started to unscrew.  I
> > managed to get it down by tightening the nut on the handle side of the
> > winch but the same thing seems to be happening now. It seems like it
> > catches just fine to raise the mask so I should be fine this spring, but
> is
> > there something that needs adjusting or replacing from your experience?
> >
> > The nut on the handle Sides has a spring and the shaft of that bolt/nut
> > combo sticks out about an inch and a half or so. is that normal?
> >
> > I believe this is the original mask raising system from General boats.
> The
> > winch housing says Shelly on it.
> >
> > Thanks for whatever help you can give,
> > Matt Wilson
> > Hornblower II
> > White Bear Lake, Minnesota
> >
>

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Mon May  4 16:18:23 2026
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2026 16:18:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising winch issues
Message-ID: <E1wJzkF-0000000Bl24-46zu@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

Matt,

Please let us know how you resolve your problem.  There may be other folks out there with a similar issue, now or in the future.

Thanks,

--Peter


[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]

> On 2026-05-04, at 12:26:38 EDT, Matt Wilson wrote:
>
> Thanks everyone!  I really appreciate it!
> 
> 



From ruehbl at msn.com  Mon May  4 17:21:50 2026
From: ruehbl at msn.com (BARRY RUEHLEN)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2026 17:21:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] how to rig halyard
Message-ID: <E1wK0je-000000058cH-3ktN@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

As some may recall, a friend and I took an '87 in over 4 years ago, At that time we thought it was in need of substantial TLC. As we got into it, things got worse. We then found termites. everything down to the stringers had to come out. Even the stringers had to be redone. We got most of that work done, and she got hit while on the trailer by hurricane Ian. The keel dropped and snapped, and she sustained some body damage. That has been repaired and we put on a beautiful application of Alexseal red paint. We are now sailing and working on understanding the rigging better. I recently put out a thread about out outhaul car and or rigging issue. We just got a new car from Charles today and will give all that a go tomorrow. Will let all know how that works.
 This thread is to address the fact that our rigging did not come with a halyard. My partner in the boat says that is absolutely wrong and has never sailed a boat without. (Back story, my partner has sailed all his life and raced professionally. I know jack, really) The question is do you all have a halyard to drop the head sail, and does anyone have a picture or diagram? I assume the main sail can't have one because it's inside the mast?? This actually came to the surface as we were talking to Art C. about purchasing a headsail from him. BTY Art, we are still interested if you would like to get back to me. My friend said you normally can change headsails without dropping the mast.
Best
Barry Ruehlen
SV perseverance, Rhodes 22
Saint James City, Fl

[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]


From mwhornblower at gmail.com  Mon May  4 17:26:50 2026
From: mwhornblower at gmail.com (Matt Wilson)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 16:26:50 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising winch issues
In-Reply-To: <E1wJzkF-0000000Bl24-46zu@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
References: <E1wJzkF-0000000Bl24-46zu@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
Message-ID: <CANbEFCtJ6QmNtUA5Ay_VRZ+u9G2inxvnQ85m4v7brRofrOy8Lw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Peter,

My issue was with lowering the mast.

Thankfully raising has gone just fine. I intend to unwind the whole winch
rope with tension on the line as has been suggested by helpful folks on
this list. I will let you know in the fall if I have any issues.

Matt

On Mon, May 4, 2026 at 3:18?PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> Matt,
>
> Please let us know how you resolve your problem.  There may be other folks
> out there with a similar issue, now or in the future.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Peter
>
>
> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>
> > On 2026-05-04, at 12:26:38 EDT, Matt Wilson wrote:
> >
> > Thanks everyone!  I really appreciate it!
> >
> >
>
>
>

From snstaum at gmail.com  Mon May  4 21:00:35 2026
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 21:00:35 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] how to rig halyard
In-Reply-To: <E1wK0je-000000058cH-3ktN@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
References: <E1wK0je-000000058cH-3ktN@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
Message-ID: <CAOo_Fjd3XCO7twMvmSbZPho_cNAgfg41h+8Dntmtt9z7Luk=1w@mail.gmail.com>

I am on my 3rd Rhodes 22 since 2003. Your partner is correct as most
sailboats have halyards that allow you to lower any sail. The Rhodes 22 is
the exception. No halyards for main or Genoa. The only way to drop the main
is to lower the mast & remove to sail assembly out the bottom.


Stay Well,
Stephen Staum
s/v Pinafore
Needham, MA

On Mon, May 4, 2026 at 5:29?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:

> As some may recall, a friend and I took an '87 in over 4 years ago, At
> that time we thought it was in need of substantial TLC. As we got into it,
> things got worse. We then found termites. everything down to the stringers
> had to come out. Even the stringers had to be redone. We got most of that
> work done, and she got hit while on the trailer by hurricane Ian. The keel
> dropped and snapped, and she sustained some body damage. That has been
> repaired and we put on a beautiful application of Alexseal red paint. We
> are now sailing and working on understanding the rigging better. I recently
> put out a thread about out outhaul car and or rigging issue. We just got a
> new car from Charles today and will give all that a go tomorrow. Will let
> all know how that works.
>  This thread is to address the fact that our rigging did not come with a
> halyard. My partner in the boat says that is absolutely wrong and has never
> sailed a boat without. (Back story, my partner has sailed all his life and
> raced professionally. I know jack, really) The question is do you all have
> a halyard to drop the head sail, and does anyone have a picture or diagram?
> I assume the main sail can't have one because it's inside the mast?? This
> actually came to the surface as we were talking to Art C. about purchasing
> a headsail from him. BTY Art, we are still interested if you would like to
> get back to me. My friend said you normally can change headsails without
> dropping the mast.
> Best
> Barry Ruehlen
> SV perseverance, Rhodes 22
> Saint James City, Fl
>
> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>
>

From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Mon May  4 21:28:06 2026
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 21:28:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] how to rig halyard
In-Reply-To: <CAOo_Fjd3XCO7twMvmSbZPho_cNAgfg41h+8Dntmtt9z7Luk=1w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E1wK0je-000000058cH-3ktN@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
 <CAOo_Fjd3XCO7twMvmSbZPho_cNAgfg41h+8Dntmtt9z7Luk=1w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5fe144fb-dc98-4f79-9241-8e6d6fe55c99@atlanticbb.net>

While it is true that the General Boats genoa furling system requires 
you to drop the mast to remove the sail it is possible to replace the 
forestay and use a small boat furling system like CSI or Scheaffer Snap 
Furl. There are R22s out there with conventional nonfurling headsails as 
well.

Mary Lou
ex R22
now Rosborough RF 246

On 5/4/2026 9:00 PM, Stephen Staum wrote:
> I am on my 3rd Rhodes 22 since 2003. Your partner is correct as most
> sailboats have halyards that allow you to lower any sail. The Rhodes 22 is
> the exception. No halyards for main or Genoa. The only way to drop the main
> is to lower the mast & remove to sail assembly out the bottom.
>
>
> Stay Well,
> Stephen Staum
> s/v Pinafore
> Needham, MA
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2026 at 5:29?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
>
>> As some may recall, a friend and I took an '87 in over 4 years ago, At
>> that time we thought it was in need of substantial TLC. As we got into it,
>> things got worse. We then found termites. everything down to the stringers
>> had to come out. Even the stringers had to be redone. We got most of that
>> work done, and she got hit while on the trailer by hurricane Ian. The keel
>> dropped and snapped, and she sustained some body damage. That has been
>> repaired and we put on a beautiful application of Alexseal red paint. We
>> are now sailing and working on understanding the rigging better. I recently
>> put out a thread about out outhaul car and or rigging issue. We just got a
>> new car from Charles today and will give all that a go tomorrow. Will let
>> all know how that works.
>>   This thread is to address the fact that our rigging did not come with a
>> halyard. My partner in the boat says that is absolutely wrong and has never
>> sailed a boat without. (Back story, my partner has sailed all his life and
>> raced professionally. I know jack, really) The question is do you all have
>> a halyard to drop the head sail, and does anyone have a picture or diagram?
>> I assume the main sail can't have one because it's inside the mast?? This
>> actually came to the surface as we were talking to Art C. about purchasing
>> a headsail from him. BTY Art, we are still interested if you would like to
>> get back to me. My friend said you normally can change headsails without
>> dropping the mast.
>> Best
>> Barry Ruehlen
>> SV perseverance, Rhodes 22
>> Saint James City, Fl
>>
>> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>>
>>


From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Tue May  5 06:27:38 2026
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 06:27:38 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] how to rig halyard
In-Reply-To: <E1wK0je-000000058cH-3ktN@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
References: <E1wK0je-000000058cH-3ktN@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
Message-ID: <CAB-twMOB0H-svj-ACzLjFqjxTiyWDKPUCwoQEhJNq+dyfXvkaA@mail.gmail.com>

Barry,

I'm just coming into this thread. Can you tell us what headsail arrangement
you have?

The original General Boats headsail furler was a simple aluminum pole/tube
with a spool or sometimes just a single plate on the bottom.

The headstay was threaded up through the center of that pole and the entire
furler tube rotated around the headstay on delrin or other plastic bushings
top and bottom.

The Genoa had a sleeve along the luff of the sail which slid down over the
furler tube. The sail was secured to the tube top and bottom with a screw
and SS fender washer bent to wrap against the tube, so there was no halyard
to lower the sail without taking the mast down.

I think the second type of furling units used were off the shelf CDI brand
furlers which do have a halyard and an extruded plastic luff foil to allow
changing the headsail with the mast up.

Todd T.

On Mon, May 4, 2026, 5:29?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:

> As some may recall, a friend and I took an '87 in over 4 years ago, At
> that time we thought it was in need of substantial TLC. As we got into it,
> things got worse. We then found termites. everything down to the stringers
> had to come out. Even the stringers had to be redone. We got most of that
> work done, and she got hit while on the trailer by hurricane Ian. The keel
> dropped and snapped, and she sustained some body damage. That has been
> repaired and we put on a beautiful application of Alexseal red paint. We
> are now sailing and working on understanding the rigging better. I recently
> put out a thread about out outhaul car and or rigging issue. We just got a
> new car from Charles today and will give all that a go tomorrow. Will let
> all know how that works.
>  This thread is to address the fact that our rigging did not come with a
> halyard. My partner in the boat says that is absolutely wrong and has never
> sailed a boat without. (Back story, my partner has sailed all his life and
> raced professionally. I know jack, really) The question is do you all have
> a halyard to drop the head sail, and does anyone have a picture or diagram?
> I assume the main sail can't have one because it's inside the mast?? This
> actually came to the surface as we were talking to Art C. about purchasing
> a headsail from him. BTY Art, we are still interested if you would like to
> get back to me. My friend said you normally can change headsails without
> dropping the mast.
> Best
> Barry Ruehlen
> SV perseverance, Rhodes 22
> Saint James City, Fl
>
> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>
>

From tvpolise at aol.com  Tue May  5 10:30:56 2026
From: tvpolise at aol.com (THOMAS POLISE)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 10:30:56 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] how to rig halyard
In-Reply-To: <CAOo_Fjd3XCO7twMvmSbZPho_cNAgfg41h+8Dntmtt9z7Luk=1w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOo_Fjd3XCO7twMvmSbZPho_cNAgfg41h+8Dntmtt9z7Luk=1w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <919580E5-EA3C-4E22-9B3A-A2E7467E9219@aol.com>

It is possible to have a halyard on headsail if you have a headsail furler with slot.  I have  keep mast up for winter ( when I don?t have help) and remove headsail without dropping mast. 

> On May 4, 2026, at 9:00?PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I am on my 3rd Rhodes 22 since 2003. Your partner is correct as most
> sailboats have halyards that allow you to lower any sail. The Rhodes 22 is
> the exception. No halyards for main or Genoa. The only way to drop the main
> is to lower the mast & remove to sail assembly out the bottom.
> 
> 
> Stay Well,
> Stephen Staum
> s/v Pinafore
> Needham, MA
> 
>> On Mon, May 4, 2026 at 5:29?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
>> 
>> As some may recall, a friend and I took an '87 in over 4 years ago, At
>> that time we thought it was in need of substantial TLC. As we got into it,
>> things got worse. We then found termites. everything down to the stringers
>> had to come out. Even the stringers had to be redone. We got most of that
>> work done, and she got hit while on the trailer by hurricane Ian. The keel
>> dropped and snapped, and she sustained some body damage. That has been
>> repaired and we put on a beautiful application of Alexseal red paint. We
>> are now sailing and working on understanding the rigging better. I recently
>> put out a thread about out outhaul car and or rigging issue. We just got a
>> new car from Charles today and will give all that a go tomorrow. Will let
>> all know how that works.
>> This thread is to address the fact that our rigging did not come with a
>> halyard. My partner in the boat says that is absolutely wrong and has never
>> sailed a boat without. (Back story, my partner has sailed all his life and
>> raced professionally. I know jack, really) The question is do you all have
>> a halyard to drop the head sail, and does anyone have a picture or diagram?
>> I assume the main sail can't have one because it's inside the mast?? This
>> actually came to the surface as we were talking to Art C. about purchasing
>> a headsail from him. BTY Art, we are still interested if you would like to
>> get back to me. My friend said you normally can change headsails without
>> dropping the mast.
>> Best
>> Barry Ruehlen
>> SV perseverance, Rhodes 22
>> Saint James City, Fl
>> 
>> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>> 
>> 


From snstaum at gmail.com  Tue May  5 13:22:10 2026
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 13:22:10 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22.net is back!
In-Reply-To: <E1wJZGe-0000000Ej7r-2TO0@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
References: <E1wJZGe-0000000Ej7r-2TO0@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
Message-ID: <CAOo_FjfrioE1Fusrba3w4f9k8Vq3awdfGvQLkH1gc7MJ79wnqg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Peter.


Stay Well,
Stephen Staum
s/v Pinafore
Needham, MA

On Tue, May 5, 2026 at 3:49?AM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> Well, it was never really gone, but it did stop working.  It stopped
> showing new posts at the end of November.  This was because there were no
> posts in December, which upset my archive extraction program.  The recent
> resurrection of the list inspired me to track down and correct the problem.
>
> For those unaware, rhodes22.net is something I developed to provide a web
> interface for the email list.  It also has a few other bells and whistles,
> including a pretty good archive search capability, if I do say so myself.
>
> --Peter
>
> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>
>

From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com  Tue May  5 23:05:10 2026
From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (peter beckerman)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2026 23:05:10 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anchor light wiring
Message-ID: <E1wKSZS-0000000BQkG-25L4@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

Hi All,
Happy to see the site up and running, I was afraid it might be gone for good.  For one of my spring projects, I'm looking to add an anchor light.  I have heard of folks using two polarity reversed LEDs for steaming and anchor lights thus eliminating the need to run a whole new wire up the mast or adding or replacing the deck fitting.
This idea appeals to me (especially  not messing with the deck fitting).  I'm sure this approach will work in a closed system (just a battery and the lights), but I'm worried about creating a short circuit in a more complex system (lights, radio, depth sounder etc).  Does anyone have experience doIng this with a complex system or can anyone explain how it a doesn't create a problem (assuming it doesn't).

Thanks,
    Peter

[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]


From r22scott317 at gmail.com  Wed May  6 11:06:08 2026
From: r22scott317 at gmail.com (R22 Scott)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2026 11:06:08 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] running rigging lengths/sizes
Message-ID: <CAAVC+_AUQdwFy0HkyOAHiCmN-mTxqoziQ6Y03Kbcdx8kB7oA+g@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, I'm replacing the running rigging on my new 1985 Rhodes 22.  I am
somewhat new to sailing. The son of the previous owner did not have much
information for the boat.

Question = What is the proper length for the main halyard? What is the
proper size line?

My boat has about 60+ feet of 5/16 inch line and that seems way too much to
coil at the base of mast.

My limited research suggest a 1/4 inch main halyard line with 51 feet.

Also, if anyone has other preferred/proper sizes/lengths of the other
running rigging, I would great appreciate it.  Thanks in advance.

Scott
Rhodes 22, 1985
*Kind of Blue*

From ruehbl at msn.com  Wed May  6 11:14:28 2026
From: ruehbl at msn.com (BARRY RUEHLEN)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2026 15:14:28 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] how to rig halyard
In-Reply-To: <919580E5-EA3C-4E22-9B3A-A2E7467E9219@aol.com>
References: <CAOo_Fjd3XCO7twMvmSbZPho_cNAgfg41h+8Dntmtt9z7Luk=1w@mail.gmail.com>
 <919580E5-EA3C-4E22-9B3A-A2E7467E9219@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BL0PR02MB65319AF387C67950B4C34C65C13F2@BL0PR02MB6531.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Thanks to all that offered your input on halyards and the Rhodes 22. Also input on the main outhaul car. For now, I guess we'll sail the headsail as most of you do, with no halyard. I investigated the alternate furling systems that do make use of a halyard. I'll leave that up to my boat partner if it's worth the expense. I am wondering, however, sense we are looking into a new headsail, If the sail we buy for our typical Rhodes furling system, would still work if we put up a new furling system like the one CDI makes for instance.
As for the new car, it is like the one Robert sent a picture of in one of his replies. ( the good one shown in place, not the broken one in the foreground). I'll let you know how it works soon.
 The full gut and rebuild of our R22 has been an adventure full of learning new crafts, problem solving, and pride in each step forward. I never met Stan, and I'm sure we've done things he would have done differently, but I hope he would be pleased to see she is back from the scruffy shape she was in. It has also built a strong, lifetime bond with my boat partner and our wives. We (I) still have much learning to do.
Thanks to all,
Barry Ruehlen
SV Perseverance (for now)
St James City Fl.


________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2026 10:30 AM
To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Cc: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] how to rig halyard

It is possible to have a halyard on headsail if you have a headsail furler with slot.  I have  keep mast up for winter ( when I don?t have help) and remove headsail without dropping mast.

> On May 4, 2026, at 9:00?PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?I am on my 3rd Rhodes 22 since 2003. Your partner is correct as most
> sailboats have halyards that allow you to lower any sail. The Rhodes 22 is
> the exception. No halyards for main or Genoa. The only way to drop the main
> is to lower the mast & remove to sail assembly out the bottom.
>
>
> Stay Well,
> Stephen Staum
> s/v Pinafore
> Needham, MA
>
>> On Mon, May 4, 2026 at 5:29?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> As some may recall, a friend and I took an '87 in over 4 years ago, At
>> that time we thought it was in need of substantial TLC. As we got into it,
>> things got worse. We then found termites. everything down to the stringers
>> had to come out. Even the stringers had to be redone. We got most of that
>> work done, and she got hit while on the trailer by hurricane Ian. The keel
>> dropped and snapped, and she sustained some body damage. That has been
>> repaired and we put on a beautiful application of Alexseal red paint. We
>> are now sailing and working on understanding the rigging better. I recently
>> put out a thread about out outhaul car and or rigging issue. We just got a
>> new car from Charles today and will give all that a go tomorrow. Will let
>> all know how that works.
>> This thread is to address the fact that our rigging did not come with a
>> halyard. My partner in the boat says that is absolutely wrong and has never
>> sailed a boat without. (Back story, my partner has sailed all his life and
>> raced professionally. I know jack, really) The question is do you all have
>> a halyard to drop the head sail, and does anyone have a picture or diagram?
>> I assume the main sail can't have one because it's inside the mast?? This
>> actually came to the surface as we were talking to Art C. about purchasing
>> a headsail from him. BTY Art, we are still interested if you would like to
>> get back to me. My friend said you normally can change headsails without
>> dropping the mast.
>> Best
>> Barry Ruehlen
>> SV perseverance, Rhodes 22
>> Saint James City, Fl
>>
>> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>>
>>


From pbryanriley at gmail.com  Thu May  7 08:49:14 2026
From: pbryanriley at gmail.com (PBR)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 08:49:14 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anchor light wiring
In-Reply-To: <E1wKSZS-0000000BQkG-25L4@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
References: <E1wKSZS-0000000BQkG-25L4@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
Message-ID: <CAJGJx+BiaeFd4qK5Xkot3tBvGyBFJ3mPML9oqaxEQrxCw_KzyA@mail.gmail.com>

Peter,
I have not done this yet but I plan to someday.  The attached diagram shows
how I would do it.  Essentially Y'ing the 2 mast wires at each end and
attaching to a Dual Pole Dual Throw (DPDT) switch and wiring the lights in
with opposite polarity.  Since the lights are not grounded to the mast in
any way there should be zero impact to any other electrical systems.  You
do need a DPDT switch that includes an off position OR use another switch
(or existing switch) in front of it to provide the OFF function.
Otherwise, in my diagram, one light is always on.

If someone that has already done this sees an error please let us know.

Patrick


On Wed, May 6, 2026 at 2:44?AM peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Hi All,
> Happy to see the site up and running, I was afraid it might be gone for
> good.  For one of my spring projects, I'm looking to add an anchor light.
> I have heard of folks using two polarity reversed LEDs for steaming and
> anchor lights thus eliminating the need to run a whole new wire up the mast
> or adding or replacing the deck fitting.
> This idea appeals to me (especially  not messing with the deck fitting).
> I'm sure this approach will work in a closed system (just a battery and the
> lights), but I'm worried about creating a short circuit in a more complex
> system (lights, radio, depth sounder etc).  Does anyone have experience
> doIng this with a complex system or can anyone explain how it a doesn't
> create a problem (assuming it doesn't).
>
> Thanks,
>     Peter
>
> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>
>
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From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com  Thu May  7 14:00:12 2026
From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (peter beckerman)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2026 14:00:12 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anchor light wiring
Message-ID: <E1wL31A-00000007sqF-48As@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

Thank you Patrick, that?s very helpful.

Peter

[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]


From rosie.krueger at gmail.com  Thu May  7 19:20:10 2026
From: rosie.krueger at gmail.com (Rosie Krueger)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2026 19:20:10 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anchor light wiring
Message-ID: <E1wL80o-0000000E6d2-2pTH@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

Peter, another option is to use an LED bulb that switches between anchor and steaming based on a micro-processor in the bulb responding to how many times you flip the switch on and off, like the Marine Beam tri-mode anchor/tri-color/SOS bulb - https://store.marinebeam.com/led-tri-color-and-anchor-light-combination-bulb/ (maybe there are others out there like this too).  I can't speak to how well it works - I didn't end up going that route myself (and now I can't remember why!), but it was an option I considered when I was redoing my mast head lighting last year.  
-Rosie
S/V Alkyone (2007)

[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]


From boon_doggy at yahoo.com  Fri May  8 09:25:39 2026
From: boon_doggy at yahoo.com (Mike)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 13:25:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anti-Fouling Paint
References: <402352665.7466361.1778246739354.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402352665.7466361.1778246739354@mail.yahoo.com>

Good morning all!

Does anyone happen to know what sort of anti-fouling paint Stan used at the factory (the Upcycle was done in 2015)?

I've got a couple of spots on the rudder and transom that I need to touch up and don't really want to redo the whole bottom (which is in otherwise excellent shape).
Most of the scratches are superficial, but there's one or two spots with deeper scratches that need to be filled in. It has a greenish-patina, so I'm guess it's some sort of copper-derivative.

Mike Blagg

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Fri May  8 09:49:01 2026
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2026 09:49:01 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anti-Fouling Paint
Message-ID: <E1wLLZd-0000000EEvn-0p10@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

Mike,

My boat was recycled in 2016.  At the time, I asked what paints had been used.  For bottom paint, the reply I got was "Pettit Trinidad 75 # 1079 special black".

HTH,

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)


[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]

> On 2026-05-08, at 09:25:39 EDT, Mike wrote:
>
> Good morning all!
> 
> Does anyone happen to know what sort of anti-fouling paint Stan used at the 
> factory (the Upcycle was done in 2015)? 
> 
> I've got a couple of spots on the rudder and transom that I need to touch up and 
> don't really want to redo the whole bottom (which is in otherwise excellent 
> shape). 
> Most of the scratches are superficial, but there's one or two spots with deeper 
> scratches that need to be filled in. It has a greenish-patina, so I'm guess it's 
> some sort of copper-derivative. 
> 
> Mike Blagg
> 



From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Fri May  8 09:51:15 2026
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2026 09:51:15 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Practical Sailor Rhodes 22 Review
Message-ID: <E1wLLbn-0000000EIFK-0SeZ@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

This just showed up in my inbox.  I haven't even read it yet.  I think it can be accessed without a subscription.

https://www.practical-sailor.com/sailboat-reviews/rhodes-22/

--Peter



[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]


From killarneylake at gmail.com  Fri May  8 10:35:59 2026
From: killarneylake at gmail.com (Michael Dale)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 10:35:59 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Jib Sail
Message-ID: <CAMZ=RhygdsxYA=E9J+0B6eaiVzAkuyFsqQavrmthp4iJVyLrYQ@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have a jib sail for sale? Mine is falling apart and sail repair
services in this region rival the cost of buying a new sail.

Michael Dale

From talmorin at hotmail.com  Fri May  8 10:45:34 2026
From: talmorin at hotmail.com (Thomas s)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 14:45:34 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Practical Sailor Rhodes 22 Review
In-Reply-To: <E1wLLbn-0000000EIFK-0SeZ@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
References: <E1wLLbn-0000000EIFK-0SeZ@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
Message-ID: <SJ0P221MB0977997B984838C04C23BC0DC13D2@SJ0P221MB0977.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Thanks Peter!

I am able to view it without a subscription

Tom

________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2026 8:51 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Practical Sailor Rhodes 22 Review

This just showed up in my inbox.  I haven't even read it yet.  I think it can be accessed without a subscription.

https://www.practical-sailor.com/sailboat-reviews/rhodes-22/

--Peter



[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]


From kensimolo at gmail.com  Fri May  8 10:50:23 2026
From: kensimolo at gmail.com (Ken Simolo)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 10:50:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Practical Sailor Rhodes 22 Review
In-Reply-To: <E1wLLbn-0000000EIFK-0SeZ@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
References: <E1wLLbn-0000000EIFK-0SeZ@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
Message-ID: <453CFE9F-F711-4524-BD76-D994844D407D@gmail.com>

It is a surprisingly detailed review.

> On May 8, 2026, at 9:51?AM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
> 
> This just showed up in my inbox.  I haven't even read it yet.  I think it can be accessed without a subscription.
> 
> https://www.practical-sailor.com/sailboat-reviews/rhodes-22/
> 
> --Peter
> 
> 
> 
> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
> 


From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Fri May  8 13:02:30 2026
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 13:02:30 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Practical Sailor Rhodes 22 Review
In-Reply-To: <E1wLLbn-0000000EIFK-0SeZ@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
References: <E1wLLbn-0000000EIFK-0SeZ@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
Message-ID: <e396121b-49c8-47a9-97c9-5ae12645858a@atlanticbb.net>

I think it's a reposting of a much earlier review, maybe with some 
updating as the tenses don't seem to match throughout and the last 
paragraph or two make it seem like GB is still in business buying back 
boats. Good to see in any event and a pretty accurate analysis.

Mary Lou
ex R22
now Rosborough FR-246
Rock Hall, MD

On 5/8/2026 9:51 AM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
> This just showed up in my inbox.  I haven't even read it yet.  I think it can be accessed without a subscription.
>
> https://www.practical-sailor.com/sailboat-reviews/rhodes-22/
>
> --Peter
>
>
>
> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>


From cindyspitzer at gmail.com  Fri May  8 13:28:09 2026
From: cindyspitzer at gmail.com (Cindy Spitzer)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 13:28:09 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Jib Sail
In-Reply-To: <CAMZ=RhygdsxYA=E9J+0B6eaiVzAkuyFsqQavrmthp4iJVyLrYQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMZ=RhygdsxYA=E9J+0B6eaiVzAkuyFsqQavrmthp4iJVyLrYQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABbc6O5jfUw9i603_oCfk_ABrMWRugVHNmB1+kh6E-nLODSrCg@mail.gmail.com>

What size are you looking for 135, 175, etc.?
I have a few used genoas available at my home in Baltimore. I'll be back
there later this month.

Cindy Spitzer

On Fri, May 8, 2026, 10:44?AM Michael Dale <killarneylake at gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have a jib sail for sale? Mine is falling apart and sail repair
> services in this region rival the cost of buying a new sail.
>
> Michael Dale
>

From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com  Fri May  8 14:07:22 2026
From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (peter beckerman)
Date: Fri, 08 May 2026 14:07:22 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Practical Sailor Rhodes 22 Review
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This is a decades old review with one or two updates.  Good article though.

Peter

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From talbotdavid50 at gmail.com  Sun May 10 08:31:44 2026
From: talbotdavid50 at gmail.com (David Talbot)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2026 08:31:44 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Jib Sail
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I have a 135 and 175, both in excellent condition for sale
David Talbot
(Talbotdavid50 at gmail.com)
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> On May 8, 2026, at 13:34, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?What size are you looking for 135, 175, etc.?
> I have a few used genoas available at my home in Baltimore. I'll be back
> there later this month.
> 
> Cindy Spitzer
> 
>> On Fri, May 8, 2026, 10:44?AM Michael Dale <killarneylake at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone have a jib sail for sale? Mine is falling apart and sail repair
>> services in this region rival the cost of buying a new sail.
>> 
>> Michael Dale
>> 

From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon May 11 07:35:28 2026
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 07:35:28 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Jib Sail
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Hi David
What type of luff do they have?  What furler do you use? 
What are you asking for these sails? 
Thanks. 
Ric
SV Dadventure.  
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> On May 10, 2026, at 8:31?AM, David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I have a 135 and 175, both in excellent condition for sale
> David Talbot
> (Talbotdavid50 at gmail.com)
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 8, 2026, at 13:34, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?What size are you looking for 135, 175, etc.?
>> I have a few used genoas available at my home in Baltimore. I'll be back
>> there later this month.
>> 
>> Cindy Spitzer
>> 
>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2026, 10:44?AM Michael Dale <killarneylake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have a jib sail for sale? Mine is falling apart and sail repair
>>> services in this region rival the cost of buying a new sail.
>>> 
>>> Michael Dale
>>>