[Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin

Michael Meltzer rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Thu, 1 Aug 2002 02:37:25 -0400


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repends on my mood and machine, the easlest way to spot html now, no =
footer means html mail

MJM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Rik Sandberg=20
  To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin


  I don't know, I can't recall ever seeing that happen before. I thought =
maybe it was something you did. Can't be Outlook anyway, I'm using =
Eudora right now. Only use outlook at work. Are you sending in html????

  Rik


  At 02:23 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:

    it is the mail client(i.e outlook) doing it for html mail.
    =20
    MJM=20
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Rik Sandberg=20
      To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
      Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:58 AM=20
      Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin


      Michael,


      What's this line thing I see marking the different replies on in =
these posts??? Never seen that before. Not a bad idea if it's yours.


      Rik




      At 12:45 AM 8/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
        Michael,


        I guess I kind of agree with Mary Lou, that a roster of R 22 =
owners might be pretty cool. If someone wanted to go to an area they =
hadn't been to, or wanted to meet up with other Rhodies in a particular =
area, it would sure make it simpler to figure out who is where and get =
in touch. I know everyone sweats about security, but hell, my e-mail =
address is already out there for anyone to look at if they want to and =
my name and address is in the phone book for everyone that's interested =
to see. I don't see where having a little personal info on our web site =
would really open me up to any security problems that I'm not already =
open for. And, if we used our passwords for access (members only) I =
don't see where it could really do any harm. What do you think???? Doubt =
I could be much help in designing it though.


        Rik




        At 01:17 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
          I still have some of your stuff queued up :-) I think bill =
work on a "greeting" and a monthy "reminder". I got some stuff one the =
verion 2 of the list, but that it mosly programming right now.=20
          =20
          www.rhodes22.org could always use something. Any Ideas that =
you might want to see thier?=20
          =20
          MJM=20
          ----- Original Message -----=20
          From: Rik Sandberg=20
          To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
          Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:12 AM=20
          Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin


          Michael,


          Yeah, I hear ya, reboot......reboot.....reboot......sucks to =
put it mildly


          Long as I've got you on the line, is there anything else you'd =
like to have edited (if you can call what I do editing) I'd be happy to =
take on some more stuff, if there is something that needs attention.


          Rik










          At 12:48 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
            "It what I do", in truth the list does not use SSL, but =
thier are other services on this machine that do, It a day job thing, I =
been cutting production machines over all day. doing the more crictial =
one tonight durring low usage hours. watching 3 rebuild right now, kind =
of borring.=20
            MJM=20
            ----- Original Message -----=20
            From: Rik Sandberg=20
            To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
            Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:48 AM=20
            Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin


            Michael,


            Too bad your so honest, you're not likely to get filthy rich =
that way. 'Course, your not likely to be called a bad bad man by the =
president either. So, I guess that's a good thing.


            Hope you get it all straightened out OK


            Rik


















            At 12:31 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
              NA, different animal, But I tell you something, If I was =
of a mind to I could take over 50% OF ALL the eCommerce sites in the =
world.=20
              MJM=20
              ----- Original Message -----=20
              From: Rik Sandberg=20
              To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
              Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:30 AM=20
              Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin=20
              Michael,


              Hmmm.......wonder if that's why I just got something from =
McAfee a few minutes ago???? Don't usually get stuff from them at this =
time of night.


              Rik


































              At 12:14 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
                It not only me, 50% of the web should be doing the same =
thing tonight. openssl is used by everyone and every body. this is a =
real screw up on the openssl people front. Their is no problem with the =
list, a buffer overrun was found in the SSL libs that is used to secure =
privacy on the web. The hole is big enough that the machine can be taken =
over which is very very bad, extremity when you consider that SSL is a =
security package in it self. This is preventive medicine, thing of it as =
a condom before someone try to give us the clap :-)=20
                MJM=20
                 ----- Original Message -----=20
                From: Rik Sandberg=20
                To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
                Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:08 AM=20
                Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin=20
                Thanks Michael,


                Your doing a heck of a job. AND, what's this???? notice =
that there is going to be a problem????? What a concept. Never seen that =
done before. :-) :-)


                Thanks for letting us know, I, for one, got kinda tired =
of never having a clue what the heck was going on.


                Rik


































































































































                At 11:49 PM 7/31/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
                  Looks like throes group screwed the pooch =
again(openssl), I have an emergency upgrade to the systems taking place =
right now, The SSL libraries are being replaced on this machine right =
now and the packages that they link to, security upgrade before the =
script kiddes find out, the list might be slow 0:00-3:00 with about a 15 =
minutes outage as the machine is boot in to the new kernel and packages, =
no member need to due anything, just a heads up.=20
                  MJM

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  admin</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>I don't know, I can't recall ever seeing that happen =
before. I=20
  thought maybe it was something you did. Can't be Outlook anyway, I'm =
using=20
  Eudora right now. Only use outlook at work. Are you sending in=20
  html????<BR><BR>Rik<BR><BR><BR>At 02:23 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you =
wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>it is the=20
    mail client(i.e outlook) doing it for html =
mail.</FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR><FONT=20
    face=3Darial size=3D2>MJM</FONT>=20
    <DL>
      <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
      <DD>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik =
Sandberg</A>=20
      <DD>To:</B> <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20
      <DD>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:58 AM=20
      <DD>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin<BR><BR>
      <DD>Michael,<BR><BR>
      <DD>What's this line thing I see marking the different replies on =
in these=20
      posts??? Never seen that before. Not a bad idea if it's =
yours.<BR><BR>
      <DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR>
      <DD>At 12:45 AM 8/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
      <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">
        <DD>Michael,<BR><BR>
        <DD>I guess I kind of agree with Mary Lou, that a roster of R 22 =
owners=20
        might be pretty cool. If someone wanted to go to an area they =
hadn't=20
        been to, or wanted to meet up with other Rhodies in a particular =
area,=20
        it would sure make it simpler to figure out who is where and get =
in=20
        touch. I know everyone sweats about security, but hell, my =
e-mail=20
        address is already out there for anyone to look at if they want =
to and=20
        my name and address is in the phone book for everyone that's =
interested=20
        to see. I don't see where having a little personal info on our =
web site=20
        would really open me up to any security problems that I'm not =
already=20
        open for. And, if we used our passwords for access (members =
only) I=20
        don't see where it could really do any harm. What do you =
think???? Doubt=20
        I could be much help in designing it though.<BR><BR>
        <DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR>
        <DD>At 01:17 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
        <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial size=3D2>
          <DD>I still have some of your stuff queued up :-) I think bill =
work on=20
          a "greeting" and a monthy "reminder". I got some stuff one the =
verion=20
          2 of the list, but that it mosly programming right now. =
</FONT>
          <DD><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
          <DD><A href=3D"http://www.rhodes22.org">www.rhodes22.org</A> =
could=20
          always use something. Any Ideas that you might want to see=20
          thier?</FONT>=20
          <DD><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
          <DD>MJM</FONT>=20
          <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
          <DD>From: <A href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik =
Sandberg</A>=20
          <DD>To: <A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20

          <DD>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:12 AM=20
          <DD>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin<BR><BR>
          <DD>Michael,<BR><BR>
          <DD>Yeah, I hear ya, reboot......reboot.....reboot......sucks =
to put=20
          it mildly<BR><BR>
          <DD>Long as I've got you on the line, is there anything else =
you'd=20
          like to have edited (if you can call what I do editing) I'd be =
happy=20
          to take on some more stuff, if there is something that needs=20
          attention.<BR><BR>
          <DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
          <DD>At 12:48 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
          <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial size=3D2>
            <DD>"It what I do", in truth the list does not use SSL, but =
thier=20
            are other services on this machine that do, It a day job =
thing, I=20
            been cutting production machines over all day. doing the =
more=20
            crictial one tonight durring low usage hours. watching 3 =
rebuild=20
            right now, kind of borring.</FONT> <FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>
            <DD>MJM</FONT>=20
            <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
            <DD>From: <A href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik =
Sandberg</A>=20
            <DD>To: <A=20
            =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20

            <DD>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:48 AM=20
            <DD>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin<BR><BR>
            <DD>Michael,<BR><BR>
            <DD>Too bad your so honest, you're not likely to get filthy =
rich=20
            that way. 'Course, your not likely to be called a bad bad =
man by the=20
            president either. So, I guess that's a good thing.<BR><BR>
            <DD>Hope you get it all straightened out OK<BR><BR>
            =
<DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><B=
R><BR>
            <DD>At 12:31 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
            <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial=20
size=3D2>
              <DD>NA, different animal, But I tell you something, If I =
was of a=20
              mind to I could take over 50% OF ALL the eCommerce sites =
in the=20
              world.=20
              <DD>MJM</FONT>=20
              <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
              <DD>From: <A href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik =
Sandberg</A>=20
              <DD>To: <A=20
              =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20

              <DD>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:30 AM=20
              <DD>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin=20
              <DD>Michael,<BR><BR>
              <DD>Hmmm.......wonder if that's why I just got something =
from=20
              McAfee a few minutes ago???? Don't usually get stuff from =
them at=20
              this time of night.<BR><BR>
              =
<DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><B=
R><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
              <DD>At 12:14 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
              <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial=20
                size=3D2>
                <DD>It not only me, 50% of the web should be doing the =
same=20
                thing tonight. openssl is used by everyone and every =
body. this=20
                is a real screw up on the openssl people front. Their is =
no=20
                problem with the list, a buffer overrun was found in the =
SSL=20
                libs that is used to secure privacy on the web. The hole =
is big=20
                enough that the machine can be taken over which is very =
very=20
                bad, extremity when you consider that SSL is a security =
package=20
                in it self. This is preventive medicine, thing of it as =
a condom=20
                before someone try to give us the clap :-)</FONT> <FONT=20
                face=3Darial size=3D2>
                <DD>MJM</FONT>=20
                <DD>&nbsp;----- Original Message -----=20
                <DD>From: <A href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik =
Sandberg</A>=20

                <DD>To: <A=20
                =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20

                <DD>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:08 AM=20
                <DD>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin=20
                <DD>Thanks Michael,<BR><BR>
                <DD>Your doing a heck of a job. AND, what's this???? =
notice that=20
                there is going to be a problem????? What a concept. =
Never seen=20
                that done before. :-) :-)<BR><BR>
                <DD>Thanks for letting us know, I, for one, got kinda =
tired of=20
                never having a clue what the heck was going on.<BR><BR>
                =
<DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><B=
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                <DD>At 11:49 PM 7/31/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
                <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial=20
                  size=3D2>
                  <DD>Looks like throes group screwed the pooch =
again(openssl),=20
                  I have an emergency upgrade to the systems taking =
place right=20
                  now, The SSL libraries are being replaced on this =
machine=20
                  right now and the packages that they link to, security =
upgrade=20
                  before the script kiddes find out, the list might be =
slow=20
                  0:00-3:00 with about a 15 minutes outage as the =
machine is=20
                  boot in to the new kernel and packages, no member need =
to due=20
                  anything, just a heads up.</FONT> <FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>
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