[Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin

Michael Meltzer rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Thu, 1 Aug 2002 03:18:26 -0400


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who would ever complain :-)

MJM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Rik Sandberg=20
  To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin


  Hey I got to go lay down. Hope your night doesn't go on too much =
longer, hell it's an hour later there than here. Bet folks will be =
pretty happy when they are all deleting our little bullshit session =
tomorrow, eh???

  Later,
  Rik


  At 02:37 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:

    repends on my mood and machine, the easlest way to spot html now, no =
footer means html mail
    =20
    MJM=20
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Rik Sandberg=20
      To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
      Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:38 AM=20
      Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin


      I don't know, I can't recall ever seeing that happen before. I =
thought maybe it was something you did. Can't be Outlook anyway, I'm =
using Eudora right now. Only use outlook at work. Are you sending in =
html????


      Rik




      At 02:23 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
        it is the mail client(i.e outlook) doing it for html mail.=20
        =20
        MJM=20
        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Rik Sandberg=20
        To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
        Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:58 AM=20
        Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin


        Michael,


        What's this line thing I see marking the different replies on in =
these posts??? Never seen that before. Not a bad idea if it's yours.


        Rik






        At 12:45 AM 8/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:=20
          Michael,


          I guess I kind of agree with Mary Lou, that a roster of R 22 =
owners might be pretty cool. If someone wanted to go to an area they =
hadn't been to, or wanted to meet up with other Rhodies in a particular =
area, it would sure make it simpler to figure out who is where and get =
in touch. I know everyone sweats about security, but hell, my e-mail =
address is already out there for anyone to look at if they want to and =
my name and address is in the phone book for everyone that's interested =
to see. I don't see where having a little personal info on our web site =
would really open me up to any security problems that I'm not already =
open for. And, if we used our passwords for access (members only) I =
don't see where it could really do any harm. What do you think???? Doubt =
I could be much help in designing it though.


          Rik






          At 01:17 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
            I still have some of your stuff queued up :-) I think bill =
work on a "greeting" and a monthy "reminder". I got some stuff one the =
verion 2 of the list, but that it mosly programming right now.=20
            www.rhodes22.org could always use something. Any Ideas that =
you might want to see thier?=20
            MJM=20
            ----- Original Message -----=20
            From: Rik Sandberg=20
            To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
            Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:12 AM=20
            Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin


            Michael,


            Yeah, I hear ya, reboot......reboot.....reboot......sucks to =
put it mildly


            Long as I've got you on the line, is there anything else =
you'd like to have edited (if you can call what I do editing) I'd be =
happy to take on some more stuff, if there is something that needs =
attention.


            Rik


















            At 12:48 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
              "It what I do", in truth the list does not use SSL, but =
thier are other services on this machine that do, It a day job thing, I =
been cutting production machines over all day. doing the more crictial =
one tonight durring low usage hours. watching 3 rebuild right now, kind =
of borring.=20
              MJM=20
              ----- Original Message -----=20
              From: Rik Sandberg=20
              To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
              Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:48 AM=20
              Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin=20
              Michael,


              Too bad your so honest, you're not likely to get filthy =
rich that way. 'Course, your not likely to be called a bad bad man by =
the president either. So, I guess that's a good thing.


              Hope you get it all straightened out OK


              Rik


































              At 12:31 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
                NA, different animal, But I tell you something, If I was =
of a mind to I could take over 50% OF ALL the eCommerce sites in the =
world.=20
                MJM=20
                ----- Original Message -----=20
                From: Rik Sandberg=20
                To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
                Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:30 AM=20
                Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin=20
                Michael,


                Hmmm.......wonder if that's why I just got something =
from McAfee a few minutes ago???? Don't usually get stuff from them at =
this time of night.


                Rik


































































                At 12:14 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
                  It not only me, 50% of the web should be doing the =
same thing tonight. openssl is used by everyone and every body. this is =
a real screw up on the openssl people front. Their is no problem with =
the list, a buffer overrun was found in the SSL libs that is used to =
secure privacy on the web. The hole is big enough that the machine can =
be taken over which is very very bad, extremity when you consider that =
SSL is a security package in it self. This is preventive medicine, thing =
of it as a condom before someone try to give us the clap :-)=20
                  MJM=20
                   ----- Original Message -----=20
                  From: Rik Sandberg=20
                  To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
                  Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:08 AM=20
                  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin=20
                  Thanks Michael,


                  Your doing a heck of a job. AND, what's this???? =
notice that there is going to be a problem????? What a concept. Never =
seen that done before. :-) :-)


                  Thanks for letting us know, I, for one, got kinda =
tired of never having a clue what the heck was going on.


                  Rik


































































































































































































































































                  At 11:49 PM 7/31/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
                    Looks like throes group screwed the pooch =
again(openssl), I have an emergency upgrade to the systems taking place =
right now, The SSL libraries are being replaced on this machine right =
now and the packages that they link to, security upgrade before the =
script kiddes find out, the list might be slow 0:00-3:00 with about a 15 =
minutes outage as the machine is boot in to the new kernel and packages, =
no member need to due anything, just a heads up.=20
                    MJM

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  <A title=3Dracerrik@rea-alp.com =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] =
Headup, list=20
  admin</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hey I got to go lay down. Hope your night doesn't go on =
too=20
  much longer, hell it's an hour later there than here. Bet folks will =
be pretty=20
  happy when they are all deleting our little bullshit session tomorrow, =

  eh???<BR><BR>Later,<BR>Rik<BR><BR><BR>At 02:37 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you=20
  wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>repends=20
    on my mood and machine, the easlest way to spot html now, no footer =
means=20
    html mail</FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>MJM</FONT> =

    <DL>
      <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
      <DD>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik =
Sandberg</A>=20
      <DD>To:</B> <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20
      <DD>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:38 AM=20
      <DD>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin<BR><BR>
      <DD>I don't know, I can't recall ever seeing that happen before. I =
thought=20
      maybe it was something you did. Can't be Outlook anyway, I'm using =
Eudora=20
      right now. Only use outlook at work. Are you sending in =
html????<BR><BR>
      <DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR>
      <DD>At 02:23 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
      <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial size=3D2>
        <DD>it is the mail client(i.e outlook) doing it for html =
mail.</FONT>=20
        <DD><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
        <DD>MJM</FONT>=20
        <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
        <DD>From: <A href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik =
Sandberg</A>=20
        <DD>To: <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20
        <DD>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:58 AM=20
        <DD>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin<BR><BR>
        <DD>Michael,<BR><BR>
        <DD>What's this line thing I see marking the different replies =
on in=20
        these posts??? Never seen that before. Not a bad idea if it's=20
        yours.<BR><BR>
        <DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
        <DD>At 12:45 AM 8/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:=20
        <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">
          <DD>Michael,<BR><BR>
          <DD>I guess I kind of agree with Mary Lou, that a roster of R =
22=20
          owners might be pretty cool. If someone wanted to go to an =
area they=20
          hadn't been to, or wanted to meet up with other Rhodies in a=20
          particular area, it would sure make it simpler to figure out =
who is=20
          where and get in touch. I know everyone sweats about security, =
but=20
          hell, my e-mail address is already out there for anyone to =
look at if=20
          they want to and my name and address is in the phone book for =
everyone=20
          that's interested to see. I don't see where having a little =
personal=20
          info on our web site would really open me up to any security =
problems=20
          that I'm not already open for. And, if we used our passwords =
for=20
          access (members only) I don't see where it could really do any =
harm.=20
          What do you think???? Doubt I could be much help in designing =
it=20
          though.<BR><BR>
          <DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
          <DD>At 01:17 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
          <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial size=3D2>
            <DD>I still have some of your stuff queued up :-) I think =
bill work=20
            on a "greeting" and a monthy "reminder". I got some stuff =
one the=20
            verion 2 of the list, but that it mosly programming right =
now.=20
            <DD><A href=3D"http://www.rhodes22.org">www.rhodes22.org</A> =
could=20
            always use something. Any Ideas that you might want to see=20
            thier?</FONT> <FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>
            <DD>MJM</FONT>=20
            <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
            <DD>From: <A href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik =
Sandberg</A>=20
            <DD>To: <A=20
            =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20

            <DD>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:12 AM=20
            <DD>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin<BR><BR>
            <DD>Michael,<BR><BR>
            <DD>Yeah, I hear ya, =
reboot......reboot.....reboot......sucks to put=20
            it mildly<BR><BR>
            <DD>Long as I've got you on the line, is there anything else =
you'd=20
            like to have edited (if you can call what I do editing) I'd =
be happy=20
            to take on some more stuff, if there is something that needs =

            attention.<BR><BR>
            =
<DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><B=
R><BR>
            <DD>At 12:48 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
            <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial=20
size=3D2>
              <DD>"It what I do", in truth the list does not use SSL, =
but thier=20
              are other services on this machine that do, It a day job =
thing, I=20
              been cutting production machines over all day. doing the =
more=20
              crictial one tonight durring low usage hours. watching 3 =
rebuild=20
              right now, kind of borring.</FONT> <FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>
              <DD>MJM</FONT>=20
              <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
              <DD>From: <A href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik =
Sandberg</A>=20
              <DD>To: <A=20
              =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20

              <DD>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:48 AM=20
              <DD>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin=20
              <DD>Michael,<BR><BR>
              <DD>Too bad your so honest, you're not likely to get =
filthy rich=20
              that way. 'Course, your not likely to be called a bad bad =
man by=20
              the president either. So, I guess that's a good =
thing.<BR><BR>
              <DD>Hope you get it all straightened out OK<BR><BR>
              =
<DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><B=
R><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
              <DD>At 12:31 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
              <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial=20
                size=3D2>
                <DD>NA, different animal, But I tell you something, If I =
was of=20
                a mind to I could take over 50% OF ALL the eCommerce =
sites in=20
                the world.=20
                <DD>MJM</FONT>=20
                <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
                <DD>From: <A href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik =
Sandberg</A>=20

                <DD>To: <A=20
                =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20

                <DD>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:30 AM=20
                <DD>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin=20
                <DD>Michael,<BR><BR>
                <DD>Hmmm.......wonder if that's why I just got something =
from=20
                McAfee a few minutes ago???? Don't usually get stuff =
from them=20
                at this time of night.<BR><BR>
                =
<DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><B=
R><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR=
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<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
                <DD>At 12:14 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
                <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial=20
                  size=3D2>
                  <DD>It not only me, 50% of the web should be doing the =
same=20
                  thing tonight. openssl is used by everyone and every =
body.=20
                  this is a real screw up on the openssl people front. =
Their is=20
                  no problem with the list, a buffer overrun was found =
in the=20
                  SSL libs that is used to secure privacy on the web. =
The hole=20
                  is big enough that the machine can be taken over which =
is very=20
                  very bad, extremity when you consider that SSL is a =
security=20
                  package in it self. This is preventive medicine, thing =
of it=20
                  as a condom before someone try to give us the clap =
:-)</FONT>=20
                  <FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>
                  <DD>MJM</FONT>=20
                  <DD>&nbsp;----- Original Message -----=20
                  <DD>From: <A href=3D"mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik=20
                  Sandberg</A>=20
                  <DD>To: <A=20
                  =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20

                  <DD>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:08 AM=20
                  <DD>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin=20
                  <DD>Thanks Michael,<BR><BR>
                  <DD>Your doing a heck of a job. AND, what's this???? =
notice=20
                  that there is going to be a problem????? What a =
concept. Never=20
                  seen that done before. :-) :-)<BR><BR>
                  <DD>Thanks for letting us know, I, for one, got kinda =
tired of=20
                  never having a clue what the heck was going =
on.<BR><BR>
                  =
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                  <DD>At 11:49 PM 7/31/2002 -0400, you wrote:=20
                  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial=20
                    size=3D2>
                    <DD>Looks like throes group screwed the pooch=20
                    again(openssl), I have an emergency upgrade to the =
systems=20
                    taking place right now, The SSL libraries are being =
replaced=20
                    on this machine right now and the packages that they =
link=20
                    to, security upgrade before the script kiddes find =
out, the=20
                    list might be slow 0:00-3:00 with about a 15 minutes =
outage=20
                    as the machine is boot in to the new kernel and =
packages, no=20
                    member need to due anything, just a heads up.</FONT> =
<FONT=20
                    face=3Darial size=3D2>
                    =
<DD>MJM</FONT></DD></BLOCKQUOTE></DD></BLOCKQUOTE></DD></BLOCKQUOTE></DD>=
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