[Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin
Steve Alm
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Thu, 01 Aug 2002 03:09:45 -0500
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Wow, you guys are keeping some pretty late hours. I thought I was the only
one up at this hour. Michael, I suppose you=B9re still up and working on the
problem solving. That=B9s definitely above and beyond the call of duty.
Thanks for everything but geez, go to bed!
On 8/1/02 2:18 AM, "Michael Meltzer" <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com> wrote:
> who would ever complain :-)
> =20
> MJM
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Rik Sandberg <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com>
>> To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
>> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin
>>=20
>> Hey I got to go lay down. Hope your night doesn't go on too much longer,=
hell
>> it's an hour later there than here. Bet folks will be pretty happy when =
they
>> are all deleting our little bullshit session tomorrow, eh???
>>=20
>> Later,
>> Rik
>>=20
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>> At 02:37 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>> repends on my mood and machine, the easlest way to spot html now, no fo=
oter
>>> means html mail
>>> =20
> MJM ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Sandberg
> <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com> To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Sent: Thurs=
day,
> August 01, 2002 2:38 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin
>=20
> I don't know, I can't recall ever seeing that happen before. I thought ma=
ybe
> it was something you did. Can't be Outlook anyway, I'm using Eudora right=
now.
> Only use outlook at work. Are you sending in html????
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> Rik
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> At 02:23 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>> it is the mail client(i.e outlook) doing it for html mail. MJM -----
>> Original Message ----- From: Rik Sandberg <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com> =
To:
>> rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:58 AM Subje=
ct:
>> Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin
>>=20
>> Michael,
>>=20
>> What's this line thing I see marking the different replies on in these
>> posts??? Never seen that before. Not a bad idea if it's yours.
>>=20
>> Rik
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>> At 12:45 AM 8/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>>> Michael,
>>>=20
>>> I guess I kind of agree with Mary Lou, that a roster of R 22 owners mig=
ht be
>>> pretty cool. If someone wanted to go to an area they hadn't been to, or
>>> wanted to meet up with other Rhodies in a particular area, it would sur=
e
>>> make it simpler to figure out who is where and get in touch. I know eve=
ryone
>>> sweats about security, but hell, my e-mail address is already out there=
for
>>> anyone to look at if they want to and my name and address is in the pho=
ne
>>> book for everyone that's interested to see. I don't see where having a
>>> little personal info on our web site would really open me up to any sec=
urity
>>> problems that I'm not already open for. And, if we used our passwords f=
or
>>> access (members only) I don't see where it could really do any harm. Wh=
at do
>>> you think???? Doubt I could be much help in designing it though.
>>>=20
>>> Rik
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>>> At 01:17 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>>> I still have some of your stuff queued up :-) I think bill work on a
>>>> "greeting" and a monthy "reminder". I got some stuff one the verion 2 =
of
>>>> the list, but that it mosly programming right now. www.rhodes22.org
>>>> <http://www.rhodes22.org> could always use something. Any Ideas that =
you
>>>> might want to see thier? MJM ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik
>>>> Sandberg <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com> To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]
>>>> Headup, list admin
>>>>=20
>>>> Michael,
>>>>=20
>>>> Yeah, I hear ya, reboot......reboot.....reboot......sucks to put it mi=
ldly
>>>>=20
>>>> Long as I've got you on the line, is there anything else you'd like to=
have
>>>> edited (if you can call what I do editing) I'd be happy to take on som=
e
>>>> more stuff, if there is something that needs attention.
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>>>>> "It what I do", in truth the list does not use SSL, but thier are oth=
er
>>>>> services on this machine that do, It a day job thing, I been cutting
>>>>> production machines over all day. doing the more crictial one tonight
>>>>> durring low usage hours. watching 3 rebuild right now, kind of borrin=
g.
>>>>> MJM ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Sandberg
>>>>> <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com> To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Sent:
>>>>> Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headu=
p,
>>>>> list admin Michael,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Too bad your so honest, you're not likely to get filthy rich that way=
.
>>>>> 'Course, your not likely to be called a bad bad man by the president
>>>>> either. So, I guess that's a good thing.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Hope you get it all straightened out OK
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>>>>> Rik
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>>>>> At 12:31 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>> NA, different animal, But I tell you something, If I was of a mind t=
o I
>>>>>> could take over 50% OF ALL the eCommerce sites in the world. MJM ---=
--
>>>>>> Original Message ----- From: Rik Sandberg <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.c=
om>
>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:30=
AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin Michael,
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Hmmm.......wonder if that's why I just got something from McAfee a f=
ew
>>>>>> minutes ago???? Don't usually get stuff from them at this time of ni=
ght.
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>>>>>> At 12:14 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>> It not only me, 50% of the web should be doing the same thing tonig=
ht.
>>>>>>> openssl is used by everyone and every body. this is a real screw up=
on
>>>>>>> the openssl people front. Their is no problem with the list, a buff=
er
>>>>>>> overrun was found in the SSL libs that is used to secure privacy on=
the
>>>>>>> web. The hole is big enough that the machine can be taken over whic=
h is
>>>>>>> very very bad, extremity when you consider that SSL is a security
>>>>>>> package in it self. This is preventive medicine, thing of it as a c=
ondom
>>>>>>> before someone try to give us the clap :-) MJM ----- Original Mess=
age
>>>>>>> ----- From: Rik Sandberg <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com> To:
>>>>>>> rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:08 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin Thanks Michael,
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Your doing a heck of a job. AND, what's this???? notice that there =
is
>>>>>>> going to be a problem????? What a concept. Never seen that done bef=
ore.
>>>>>>> :-) :-)
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Thanks for letting us know, I, for one, got kinda tired of never ha=
ving
>>>>>>> a clue what the heck was going on.
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>>>>>>> At 11:49 PM 7/31/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Looks like throes group screwed the pooch again(openssl), I have an
emergency upgrade to the systems taking place right now, The SSL libraries
are being replaced on this machine right now and the packages that they lin=
k
to, security upgrade before the script kiddes find out, the list might be
slow 0:00-3:00 with about a 15 minutes outage as the machine is boot in to
the new kernel and packages, no member need to due anything, just a heads
up. MJM
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<FONT FACE=3D"Verdana">Wow, you guys are keeping some pretty late hours. &nbs=
p;I thought I was the only one up at this hour. Michael, I suppose you=
’re still up and working on the problem solving. That’s de=
finitely above and beyond the call of duty. Thanks for everything but =
geez, go to bed!<BR>
<BR>
On 8/1/02 2:18 AM, "Michael Meltzer" <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com&g=
t; wrote:<BR>
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</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">who would ever complai=
n :-)<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"> <BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">MJM<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana">----- Original Message ----- <BR>
</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"><B>From:</B> Rik Sandberg <mailt=
o:racerrik@rea-alp.com> <BR>
<B>To:</B> rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org <BR>
<B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:59 AM<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin<BR>
<BR>
Hey I got to go lay down. Hope your night doesn't go on too much longer, he=
ll it's an hour later there than here. Bet folks will be pretty happy when t=
hey are all deleting our little bullshit session tomorrow, eh???<BR>
<BR>
Later,<BR>
Rik<BR>
<BR>
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At 02:37 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:<BR>
</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">repends on my mood and=
machine, the easlest way to spot html now, no footer means html mail<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"> <BR>
</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">MJM</FON=
T></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"> ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Sandbe=
rg <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com> To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org =
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:38 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup,=
list admin<BR>
<BR>
I don't know, I can't recall ever seeing that happen before. I thought mayb=
e it was something you did. Can't be Outlook anyway, I'm using Eudora right =
now. Only use outlook at work. Are you sending in html????<BR>
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Rik<BR>
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At 02:23 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote: <BR>
</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">it is the mail client(=
i.e outlook) doing it for html mail.</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"> </FO=
NT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"> MJM</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana">=
----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Sandberg <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp=
.com> To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Sent: Thursday, August 01, 200=
2 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin<BR>
<BR>
Michael,<BR>
<BR>
What's this line thing I see marking the different replies on in these post=
s??? Never seen that before. Not a bad idea if it's yours.<BR>
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Rik<BR>
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At 12:45 AM 8/1/2002 -0500, you wrote: <BR>
</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana">Michael,<BR>
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I guess I kind of agree with Mary Lou, that a roster of R 22 owners might b=
e pretty cool. If someone wanted to go to an area they hadn't been to, or wa=
nted to meet up with other Rhodies in a particular area, it would sure make =
it simpler to figure out who is where and get in touch. I know everyone swea=
ts about security, but hell, my e-mail address is already out there for anyo=
ne to look at if they want to and my name and address is in the phone book f=
or everyone that's interested to see. I don't see where having a little pers=
onal info on our web site would really open me up to any security problems t=
hat I'm not already open for. And, if we used our passwords for access (memb=
ers only) I don't see where it could really do any harm. What do you think??=
?? Doubt I could be much help in designing it though.<BR>
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Rik<BR>
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At 01:17 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote: <BR>
</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">I still have some of y=
our stuff queued up :-) I think bill work on a "greeting" and a mo=
nthy "reminder". I got some stuff one the verion 2 of the list, bu=
t that it mosly programming right now. www.rhodes22.org <http://www.rhode=
s22.org> could always use something. Any Ideas that you might want =
to see thier?</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"> </FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT=
FACE=3D"Arial">MJM</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"> ----- Original Message =
----- From: Rik Sandberg <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com> To: rhode=
s22-list@rhodes22.org Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [=
Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin<BR>
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Michael,<BR>
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Yeah, I hear ya, reboot......reboot.....reboot......sucks to put it mildly<=
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Long as I've got you on the line, is there anything else you'd like to have=
edited (if you can call what I do editing) I'd be happy to take on some mor=
e stuff, if there is something that needs attention.<BR>
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At 12:48 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote: <BR>
</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">"It what I do&quo=
t;, in truth the list does not use SSL, but thier are other services on this=
machine that do, It a day job thing, I been cutting production machines ove=
r all day. doing the more crictial one tonight durring low usage hours. watc=
hing 3 rebuild right now, kind of borring.</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"=
> </FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">MJM</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verd=
ana"> ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Sandberg <mailto:racerrik@re=
a-alp.com> To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Sent: Thursday, August 01=
, 2002 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin Michael,<BR>
<BR>
Too bad your so honest, you're not likely to get filthy rich that way. 'Cou=
rse, your not likely to be called a bad bad man by the president either. So,=
I guess that's a good thing.<BR>
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Hope you get it all straightened out OK<BR>
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But I tell you something, If I was of a mind to I could take over 50% OF ALL=
the eCommerce sites in the world. MJM</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"> --=
--- Original Message ----- From: Rik Sandberg <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.co=
m> To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1=
2:30 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin Michael,<BR>
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Hmmm.......wonder if that's why I just got something from McAfee a few minu=
tes ago???? Don't usually get stuff from them at this time of night.<BR>
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At 12:14 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote: <BR>
</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">It not only me, 50% of=
the web should be doing the same thing tonight. openssl is used by everyone=
and every body. this is a real screw up on the openssl people front. Their =
is no problem with the list, a buffer overrun was found in the SSL libs that=
is used to secure privacy on the web. The hole is big enough that the machi=
ne can be taken over which is very very bad, extremity when you consider tha=
t SSL is a security package in it self. This is preventive medicine, thing o=
f it as a condom before someone try to give us the clap :-)</FONT></FONT><FO=
NT FACE=3D"Verdana"> </FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">MJM</FONT></FONT=
><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"> ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Sandberg=
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nt: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, =
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LOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Looks like throes g=
roup screwed the pooch again(openssl), I have an emergency upgrade to the sy=
stems taking place right now, The SSL libraries are being replaced on this m=
achine right now and the packages that they link to, security upgrade before=
the script kiddes find out, the list might be slow 0:00-3:00 with about a 1=
5 minutes outage as the machine is boot in to the new kernel and packages, n=
o member need to due anything, just a heads up.</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Ver=
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