[Rhodes22-list] Sailing on a Catalina 22
Roland.John
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:09:17 -0400
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Bob and Kathy,
Thanks, more grist for the mill is good. The Rhodes just keeps looking =
better and better. Maybe I'll have to learn to slouch. Or maybe I =
COULD raise the roof...
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Hmmm... Hey Group.
Has anyone ever thought of this. Take your trusty sawzall and cut =
through the sidewalls just above and below the ports. Leave a nice tab =
at the deck and the edge of the cabin roof. Raise the roof about 4" and =
build new sidewalls from epoxy coated marine plywood. through bolt and =
epoxy/glass the walls to the deck and roof tabs. Cut the same 4" off =
the bottom of the mast. This keeps the sails, fore- and back stays, =
upper shrouds, their chainplates and the pop-top mast mountings =
un-modified. Rear pop-top frame mounts don't change as they are below =
the cut-off line. Lower shrouds will be shortened and their =
chainplates remounted. Interior bulkheads will be replaced with taller =
ones and a bit of care with the rear cabin wall to maintain a flat =
mating surface for the new cabin door. Wouldn't want to do this to a =
good boat but if I decide to get a fixer-upper it looks do-able. =20
=20
Questions: What have I missed here? Has anyone ever cut through the =
cabin walls? What is their construction, solid FRP or cored? If cored, =
with what? Since the mast is roof stepped and there appears to be no =
compression post, is there any reinforcement in the cabin walls to =
stabilize/support the roof? What else am I going to be cutting through, =
I know there will be some wiring and I'll have to work around the =
chainplates, anything else? =20
=20
Stan; I know you lurk on this list, would you care to comment? If =
you, or anyone else has concerns about liability, I'll be glad to sign a =
release, I'm trying to modify a boat to my own design, not create a =
lawsuit. =20
=20
Any advice or comments will be greatly appreciated. Thanks John Roland
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Quinn [mailto:rjquinn@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:58 PM
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing on a Catalina 22
John: A couple of years ago a couple next to us in the marina purchased =
a Seaward '23. We often found ourselves heading out to sail a few =
times. After a year of watching us jump on the boat, store our goodies, =
ready for cast off, away we went with sails up just as we cleared the =
docks, they came over one evening totally disgusted and dejected that =
they didn't go the Rhodes route. They felt our boat looked better, the =
cockpit was so much larger, and the ease of operation - furled Genoa and =
IMF - were what they should have gone for. They were going to try to =
sell their boat and look to GB for a Rhodes 22. Don't know whether they =
did or not, but their comments pretty well told the story. =20
=20
Oh, on performance, the boats were pretty evenly matched but we =
generally managed to pull ahead and leave them behind over time.=20
=20
Bob and Kathy on the "NoKaOi"
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and Kathy,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D606310814-16082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Thanks, more grist for the mill is good. The Rhodes =
just=20
keeps looking better and better. Maybe I'll have to learn to =
slouch. =20
Or maybe I COULD raise the roof...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D606310814-16082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Hmmm... Hey Group.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D606310814-16082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Has=20
anyone ever thought of this. Take your trusty sawzall and cut =
through the=20
sidewalls just above and below the ports. Leave a nice tab at the =
deck and=20
the edge of the cabin roof. Raise the roof about 4" and build new=20
sidewalls from epoxy coated marine plywood. through bolt and =
epoxy/glass=20
the walls to the deck and roof tabs. Cut the same 4" off the =
bottom of the=20
mast. This keeps the sails, fore- and back stays, upper shrouds, =
their=20
chainplates and the pop-top mast mountings un-modified. Rear =
pop-top=20
frame mounts don't change as they are below the cut-off=20
line. Lower shrouds will be shortened and their =
chainplates=20
remounted. Interior bulkheads will be replaced with taller ones =
and a bit=20
of care with the rear cabin wall to maintain a flat mating surface for =
the new=20
cabin door. Wouldn't want to do this to a good boat but if I =
decide to get=20
a fixer-upper it looks do-able. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D606310814-16082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D606310814-16082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Questions: What have I missed here? Has anyone ever =
cut=20
through the cabin walls? What is their construction, solid FRP or=20
cored? If cored, with what? Since the mast is roof stepped =
and there=20
appears to be no compression post, is there any reinforcement in the =
cabin walls=20
to stabilize/support the roof? What else am I going to be cutting=20
through, I know there will be some wiring and I'll have to work =
around the=20
chainplates, anything else? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D606310814-16082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D606310814-16082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Stan; I know you lurk on this list, would you care =
to=20
comment? If you, or anyone else has concerns about liability, I'll =
be glad=20
to sign a release, I'm trying to modify a boat to my own design, =
not=20
create a lawsuit. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D606310814-16082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D606310814-16082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Any=20
advice or comments will be greatly appreciated. Thanks John=20
Roland</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Robert Quinn=20
[mailto:rjquinn@bellsouth.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 15, =
2002 8:58=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
[Rhodes22-list] Sailing on a Catalina 22<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John: A couple of years ago a =
couple next=20
to us in the marina purchased a Seaward '23. We often found =
ourselves=20
heading out to sail a few times. After a year of watching us =
jump on the=20
boat, store our goodies, ready for cast off, away we went with sails =
up just=20
as we cleared the docks, they came over one evening totally disgusted =
and=20
dejected that they didn't go the Rhodes route. They felt our =
boat looked=20
better, the cockpit was so much larger, and the ease of operation - =
furled=20
Genoa and IMF - were what they should have gone for. They were =
going to=20
try to sell their boat and look to GB for a Rhodes 22. Don't =
know=20
whether they did or not, but their comments pretty well told the =
story. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh, on performance, the boats were =
pretty evenly=20
matched but we generally managed to pull ahead and leave them behind =
over=20
time. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob and Kathy on the=20
"NoKaOi"</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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