[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 Documentation
Roger Pihlaja
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:33:48 -0400
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Keith,
I don't think the documentation you are asking about exists except in =
the mind of Stan Spitzer. God bless Stan, if something happens to him =
or he decides to finally retire, we are all going to be in deep do-do! =
GBI's policy of continuous improvement means the equipment & =
specifications of the Rhodes 22 have evolved greatly over the years. =
So, a detailed spec from my 1976 Rhodes 22 would differ significantly =
from your 1988 model. Fortunately, the Rhodes 22 is not a very =
complicated boat & common sense goes long way. For the moment, Stan =
Spitzer & GBI are a tremendous resource, & I would utilize them as much =
as possible.
I realize this doesn't solve your problem, but poor documentation & =
"fuzzy" spare parts supply is the reality of the situation.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Keith Bracknell=20
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Bending With A Mast Head Rig
Roger,=20
I very much appreciate the judgement and meticulous detail with which =
you respond to R22 questions and issues. I confess though that I am not =
very well satisfied with the R22 documentation available from General =
Boats. Do you have, or do you know of, any R22 documentation that =
provides engineering drawings, rigging specs., and equipment lists. I am =
particularly interested in the sailboat hardware.=20
I've only had Aria ('88) for about a month. Lots of small rigging =
deficiencies and worn hardware is showing up. Some of the rigging I'm =
sure is not according to General Boats specs. I don't really care about =
that as much as ensuring the boat is seaworthy.=20
I'm also interested in your rigging for racing. I have crewed on a P30 =
for Wed. night and Saturday summer series in LI Sound, primarily in =
Fisher's Island Sound. I might give a go at racing Aria in a couple of =
these races myself if I felt confident she was rigged and tuned =
properly. Priority is also a question mark.=20
I would appreciate your help, the more detail the better.=20
Keith=20
Roger Pihlaja wrote:=20
Richard,
Mast bending is all all a matter of degree. A masthead rigged boat =
like the Rhodes 22 can't get more than a couple of inches of curvature =
from mast bending. A similar length mast with a 3/4 rig could be =
configured to bend 18 inches or more. Never-the-less, if the mainsail =
is cut to take advantage of mast bend, even a couple of inches of bend =
can remove a lot of draft & significantly flatten the sail shape.
With respect, you are COMPLETELY WRONG when you say that the masts =
on masthead rigged sailboats are only designed to be loaded & used in =
column with no bend. That statement has been patently false for at =
least 30 years.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Keith,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't think the documentation you are =
asking=20
about exists except in the mind of Stan Spitzer. God bless Stan, =
if=20
something happens to him or he decides to finally retire, we are all =
going to be=20
in deep do-do! GBI's policy of continuous improvement means the =
equipment=20
& specifications of the Rhodes 22 have evolved greatly over the =
years. So, a detailed spec from my 1976 Rhodes 22 would differ=20
significantly from your 1988 model. Fortunately, the Rhodes 22 is =
not a=20
very complicated boat & common sense goes long way. For the =
moment,=20
Stan Spitzer & GBI are a tremendous resource, & I would =
utilize=20
them as much as possible.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I realize this doesn't solve your =
problem,=20
but poor documentation & "fuzzy" spare parts supply is the =
reality of=20
the situation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roger Pihlaja</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dbracknellk@yahoo.com =
href=3D"mailto:bracknellk@yahoo.com">Keith=20
Bracknell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 22, 2002 =
8:17=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] =
Mast Bending=20
With A Mast Head Rig</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<P>Roger,=20
<P>I very much appreciate the judgement and meticulous detail with =
which you=20
respond to R22 questions and issues. I confess though that I am not =
very well=20
satisfied with the R22 documentation available from General Boats. Do =
you=20
have, or do you know of, any R22 documentation that provides =
engineering=20
drawings, rigging specs., and equipment lists. I am particularly =
interested in=20
the sailboat hardware.=20
<P>I've only had Aria ('88) for about a month. Lots of small rigging=20
deficiencies and worn hardware is showing up. Some of the rigging I'm =
sure is=20
not according to General Boats specs. I don't really care about that =
as much=20
as ensuring the boat is seaworthy.=20
<P>I'm also interested in your rigging for racing. I have crewed on a =
P30 for=20
Wed. night and Saturday summer series in LI Sound, primarily in =
Fisher's=20
Island Sound. I might give a go at racing Aria in a couple of =
these=20
races myself if I felt confident she was rigged and tuned properly. =
Priority=20
is also a question mark.=20
<P>I would appreciate your help, the more detail the better.=20
<P>Keith=20
<P> <B><I>Roger Pihlaja <CEN09402@CENTURYTEL.NET></I></B>wrote:=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Richard,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mast bending is all all a =
matter of=20
degree. A masthead rigged boat like the Rhodes 22 can't get =
more than=20
a couple of inches of curvature from mast bending. A similar =
length=20
mast with a 3/4 rig could be configured to bend 18 inches or =
more. =20
Never-the-less, if the mainsail is cut to take advantage =
of mast=20
bend, even a couple of inches of bend can remove a lot of =
draft=20
& significantly flatten the sail shape.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>With respect, you are COMPLETELY =
WRONG when you=20
say that the masts on masthead rigged sailboats are only =
designed to be=20
loaded & used in column with no bend. That statement has =
been=20
patently false for at least 30 years.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roger Pihlaja</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>S/V Dynamic =
Equilibrium</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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