[Rhodes22-list] Loose footed main sails

Michael Meltzer rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:49:21 -0400


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MessageYes by redesigning it to a dutchman system. A mast based IMF(most =
of the systems) has to be loosfooted unless someone can create a way for =
slot cars to be attached and unattached(under load) but then you are =
defeating the region for IMF. If you want a racing boat use a standard =
main, in fact set the first reef point to the boom up postion, beside =
you would not want the wait aloft from a IMF mast.

MJM
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ed Kroposki=20
  To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 7:31 PM
  Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Loose footed main sails


  Roger:
         Now for the IMF crowd -- is there anyway to secure the main to =
the boom to maintain shape on the Stan Spitzer design IMF???? =20
                                Ed k
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Roger Pihlaja=20
    To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
    Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 7:01 PM
    Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Bending & PHRF Rating


    Richard,

    Bullshit!  To the best of my knowledge, there isn't a single =
performance oriented sailboat racing class that prefers to use loose =
footed mainsails.  I don't know why Doyle has made this marketing =
decision.  Fortunately, there are plenty of other choices of sailmakers =
& I would run, not walk, away from this idiot at Doyle.

    Roger Pihlaja
    S/V Dynamic eQuilibrium
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: R.G. Smith=20
      To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
      Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 2:46 PM
      Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Bending & PHRF Rating


      The mainsail on my boat is pretty much shot also.  My boat is a =
re-mfg 1990 and I insisted on the old style spars (non IMF) and the sail =
I have is all that Stan had.  I got in touch with Doyle regarding a new =
main the sail they suggust has 2 full length battens at the head and 2 =
partial battens towards the foot.

      The sail they quoted was also loose footed!  When I expressed =
surprise I was told that (Doyle) was no longer building mains with bolt =
ropes along the foot.  There contention is that a loose footed sail =
set's better and last longer.

      Richard Smith

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes by redesigning it to a dutchman =
system. A mast=20
based IMF(most of the systems) has to be loosfooted unless someone can =
create a=20
way for slot cars to be attached and unattached(under load)&nbsp;but =
then you=20
are defeating the region for IMF. If you want a racing boat use a =
standard main,=20
in fact set the first reef point to the boom up postion, beside you =
would not=20
want the wait aloft from a IMF mast.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MJM</FONT></DIV>
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  main sails</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">Roger:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
<STRONG>Now=20
  for the IMF crowd</STRONG> -- is there anyway to secure the main to =
the boom=20
  to maintain shape on the <EM>Stan Spitzer design IMF????</EM>&nbsp;=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 24, =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] =
Mast=20
    Bending &amp; PHRF Rating</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Richard,</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bullshit!&nbsp; To the best of my =
knowledge,=20
    there isn't a single performance oriented sailboat racing&nbsp;class =
that=20
    prefers to use loose footed mainsails.&nbsp; I don't know why Doyle =
has made=20
    this marketing decision.&nbsp; Fortunately, there are plenty of =
other=20
    choices of sailmakers&nbsp;&amp; I would run, not walk, away from=20
    this&nbsp;idiot at Doyle.</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roger Pihlaja</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>S/V Dynamic =
eQuilibrium</FONT></DIV>
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      <A title=3Dsailnut@asan.com href=3D"mailto:sailnut@asan.com">R.G. =
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 24, =
2002 2:46=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Rhodes22-list] Mast=20
      Bending &amp; PHRF Rating</DIV>
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D718413818-24082002>The mainsail on my boat is pretty much =
shot=20
      also.&nbsp; My boat is a re-mfg 1990&nbsp;and I insisted on the =
old style=20
      spars (non IMF)&nbsp;and the sail I have&nbsp;is all that Stan =
had.&nbsp;=20
      I got in touch with Doyle regarding a new main&nbsp;the sail they=20
      suggust&nbsp;has 2 full length battens at the head and 2 partial =
battens=20
      towards the foot.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D718413818-24082002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D718413818-24082002>The sail they quoted was also loose =
footed!&nbsp;=20
      When I expressed surprise I was told that (Doyle) was no longer =
building=20
      mains with bolt ropes along the foot.&nbsp; There contention is =
that a=20
      loose footed sail set's better and last =
longer.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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      class=3D718413818-24082002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D718413818-24082002>Richard Smith</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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