[Rhodes22-list] Mast Bending & PHRF Rating

Michael Meltzer rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Sun, 25 Aug 2002 20:21:54 -0400


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  From: David Rasberry=20
  To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 8:57 AM
  Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Bending & PHRF Rating


  Since they dropped the twelve meters.
  Check the pix

  Razz
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    From: rhodes22-list-admin@rhodes22.org =
[mailto:rhodes22-list-admin@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Roger Pihlaja
    Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 5:57 AM
    To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
    Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Bending & PHRF Rating


    Since when?
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: David Rasberry=20
      To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
      Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 2:15 AM
      Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Bending & PHRF Rating


      IACC class (America's Cup) boats have loose footed mains.

      Razz
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        From: rhodes22-list-admin@rhodes22.org =
[mailto:rhodes22-list-admin@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Roger Pihlaja
        Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 7:01 PM
        To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
        Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Bending & PHRF Rating


        Richard,

        Bullshit!  To the best of my knowledge, there isn't a single =
performance oriented sailboat racing class that prefers to use loose =
footed mainsails.  I don't know why Doyle has made this marketing =
decision.  Fortunately, there are plenty of other choices of sailmakers =
& I would run, not walk, away from this idiot at Doyle.

        Roger Pihlaja
        S/V Dynamic eQuilibrium
          ----- Original Message -----=20
          From: R.G. Smith=20
          To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
          Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 2:46 PM
          Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Bending & PHRF Rating


          The mainsail on my boat is pretty much shot also.  My boat is =
a re-mfg 1990 and I insisted on the old style spars (non IMF) and the =
sail I have is all that Stan had.  I got in touch with Doyle regarding a =
new main the sail they suggust has 2 full length battens at the head and =
2 partial battens towards the foot.

          The sail they quoted was also loose footed!  When I expressed =
surprise I was told that (Doyle) was no longer building mains with bolt =
ropes along the foot.  There contention is that a loose footed sail =
set's better and last longer.

          Richard Smith

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  size=3D2>Since they dropped the twelve meters.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  size=3D2>Check the pix</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    [mailto:rhodes22-list-admin@rhodes22.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Roger=20
    Pihlaja<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 25, 2002 5:57 =
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      Bending &amp; PHRF Rating</DIV>
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      <DIV><SPAN class=3D930091406-25082002><FONT face=3DArial =
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      size=3D2>IACC class (America's Cup) boats have loose footed=20
      mains.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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      <DIV><SPAN class=3D930091406-25082002><FONT face=3DArial =
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        [mailto:rhodes22-list-admin@rhodes22.org]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Roger=20
        Pihlaja<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 24, 2002 7:01 =
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        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Richard,</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bullshit!&nbsp; To the best of =
my=20
        knowledge, there isn't a single performance oriented sailboat=20
        racing&nbsp;class that prefers to use loose footed =
mainsails.&nbsp; I=20
        don't know why Doyle has made this marketing decision.&nbsp;=20
        Fortunately, there are plenty of other choices of =
sailmakers&nbsp;&amp;=20
        I would run, not walk, away from this&nbsp;idiot at =
Doyle.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roger Pihlaja</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>S/V Dynamic =
eQuilibrium</FONT></DIV>
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          <A title=3Dsailnut@asan.com =
href=3D"mailto:sailnut@asan.com">R.G.=20
          Smith</A> </DIV>
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          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August =
24, 2002=20
          2:46 PM</DIV>
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[Rhodes22-list] Mast=20
          Bending &amp; PHRF Rating</DIV>
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          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
          class=3D718413818-24082002>The mainsail on my boat is pretty =
much shot=20
          also.&nbsp; My boat is a re-mfg 1990&nbsp;and I insisted on =
the old=20
          style spars (non IMF)&nbsp;and the sail I have&nbsp;is all =
that Stan=20
          had.&nbsp; I got in touch with Doyle regarding a new =
main&nbsp;the=20
          sail they suggust&nbsp;has 2 full length battens at the head =
and 2=20
          partial battens towards the foot.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
          class=3D718413818-24082002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
          class=3D718413818-24082002>The sail they quoted was also loose =

          footed!&nbsp; When I expressed surprise I was told that =
(Doyle) was no=20
          longer building mains with bolt ropes along the foot.&nbsp; =
There=20
          contention is that a loose footed sail set's better and last=20
          longer.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
          class=3D718413818-24082002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
          class=3D718413818-24082002>Richard Smith</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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