[Rhodes22-list] Document library
Ed Kroposki
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Fri, 30 Aug 2002 19:58:05 -0400
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Rummy:
Gee, Toad can even buy pictures of how your boat is rigged.
Best not tell him that every Rhodes22 that I have seen is =
different from everyother. How many are there on Hartwell Lake? I =
guess mine comes close to yours at first glance. But it doesn't take a =
minute to start finding differences. The three Rhodes at Big Water are =
only similar in the shape of the hull. How do you tell somebody that =
any parts list for a Rhodes22 is good only for one Rhodes22? These are =
not like Chevy's or Ford's, where there was a large run on an assembly =
line. When somebody wants a Rhodes from Stan, he ask what do you want, =
then produces that individual boat. Many of the unique parts are =
supplied by buyer. How many Rhodes have the same compass? Or even the =
Compass in the same place?
For Stan each Rhodes22 is a piece of Art. And to further complicate =
the change of equipment, Stan gets up in the wee hours of the morning =
experimenting with new and different things on the Rhodes.=20
How many boat shows has Stan gone to? I believe that Stan himself =
said that he goes around looking for new equipment, ideas and then tries =
to see if they will work with the Rhodes22.
Now after 30+ years of evolution, he is asked for an equipment and =
parts list? Back in July, I stood next to a 1974 Rhodes22. Its hull =
was shaped like my 1984. But I looked at the boat I.D. plate to be 100% =
certain it really was an early brother. =20
Earlier this year I toured a 2002 Rhodes22. The hull was shaped =
like my boat. And the IMF and Genoa were rigged similarly to my boat. =
But feature wise it was like a camel and a cow. =20
Ed K =20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Toad the Wet Sprocket=20
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Document library
Dear Rummy or whatever,
I'm not pouting. I am just a little frustrated when I can get =
very little info from the mfg of the boat I have. GB is a very small =
company. This I understand. When I called, I was told there no owner's =
manuals or parts manuals for a boat as old as mine. (maybe it was made =
before Stan started making the Rhodes) Owners here on this list all =
each other out. Someone was kind enough to scan their owner's manual =
and offer it to MMeltzer who had it converted to a pdf file and shared =
it with us all. There are no pictures and many mistakes made by the =
OCR software. I was re-typing it in my spare time so I could possibly =
send it back out in a corrected Word format. Some one asked if this =
would be violating copyrights for a manual that Stan doesn't offer. =
Stan surely got all rights to this literature when he bought the =
company. If Stan printed a tech man ual for a boat as old as mine with =
diagrams, drawings and close-up pictures of the systems,rigging and =
hardware, and sail and rig tuning information I would gladly buy it and =
have it delivered overnight. What I know about sailing and sailboats =
wouldn't fill a thimble. I am at the mercy of all here and rely on the =
experience and expertise of other owners. I called GB because Stan is =
the "guru" and all I got was one word answers and told to "e-mail me". =
first response was next day....folow up was 2 weeks. I am desperate =
for information which GB doesn't have and someone sending a copy of =
their old owner's manual is against the law. And I am wrong for being =
frustrated?????? =20
Sprocket or whatever
Please respond to sprocket80@hotmail.com
From: R22RumRunner@aol.com=20
Reply-To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Document library=20
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:25:04 EDT=20
Dear Sprocket or whatever,=20
I don't understand you. You ask questions of this list which is =
comprised of=20
owners, not the manufacturer and when you get answers you don't like, =
you=20
pout. GET OVER IT. If you want help, play nice or take your boat and =
go=20
elsewhere.=20
Rummy=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">Rummy:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier =
New"> Gee, Toad can=20
even buy pictures of how your boat is rigged.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier =
New"> Best not=20
tell him that every Rhodes22 that I have seen is different from=20
everyother. How many are there on Hartwell Lake? I guess =
mine comes=20
close to yours at first glance. But it doesn't take =
a=20
minute to start finding differences. The three Rhodes at Big Water =
are=20
only similar in the shape of the hull. How do you tell somebody =
that any=20
parts list for a Rhodes22 is good only for one Rhodes22? These are =
not=20
like Chevy's or Ford's, where there was a large run on an assembly =
line. =20
When somebody wants a Rhodes from Stan, he ask what do you want, then =
produces=20
that individual boat. Many of the unique parts are supplied by=20
buyer. How many Rhodes have the same compass? Or even =
the=20
Compass in the same place?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"> For Stan each =
Rhodes22 is=20
a piece of Art. And to further complicate the change=20
of equipment, Stan gets up in the wee hours of the morning =
experimenting=20
with new and different things on the =
Rhodes. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"> How many boat =
shows has=20
Stan gone to? I believe that Stan himself said that he goes =
around=20
looking for new equipment, ideas and then tries to see if they will =
work=20
with the Rhodes22.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"> Now after 30+ =
years of=20
evolution, he is asked for an equipment and parts list? Back in =
July, I=20
stood next to a 1974 Rhodes22. Its hull was shaped =
like my=20
1984. But I looked at the boat I.D. plate to be 100% certain it =
really was=20
an early brother. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"> Earlier=20
this year I toured a 2002 Rhodes22. The hull was shaped like =
my=20
boat. And the IMF and Genoa were rigged similarly to my =
boat. =20
But feature wise it was like a camel and a cow. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier =
New"> &n=
bsp; &nb=
sp; &nbs=
p;=20
Ed K </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dsprocket80@hotmail.com =
href=3D"mailto:sprocket80@hotmail.com">Toad the=20
Wet Sprocket</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 30, 2002 =
2:13=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] =
Document=20
library</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P>Dear Rummy or whatever,</P>
<P> I'm not pouting. I am just a little=20
frustrated when I can get very little info from the mfg of the boat I=20
have. GB is a very small company. This I understand. =
When I=20
called, I was told there no owner's manuals <EM>or </EM>parts =
manuals for=20
a boat as old as mine. (maybe it was made before Stan started =
making the=20
Rhodes) Owners here on this list all each other out. =
Someone=20
was kind enough to scan their owner's manual and offer it to MMeltzer =
who had=20
it converted to a pdf file and shared it with us all. =
There are no=20
pictures and many mistakes made by the OCR software. I was =
re-typing it=20
in my spare time so I could possibly send it back out in a corrected =
Word=20
format. Some one asked if this would be violating =
copyrights for a=20
manual that Stan doesn't offer. Stan surely got all rights =
to this=20
literature when he bought the company. If Stan printed a tech =
man=20
ual for a boat as old as mine with diagrams, drawings and =
close-up=20
pictures of the systems,rigging and hardware, and sail and rig tuning=20
information I would gladly buy it and have it delivered =
overnight. What=20
I know about sailing and sailboats wouldn't fill a =
thimble. I am=20
at the mercy of all here and rely on the experience and expertise =
of=20
other owners. I called GB because Stan is the "guru" and =
all I got=20
was one word answers and told to "e-mail me". first =
response=20
was next day....folow up was 2 weeks. I am desperate =
for=20
information which GB doesn't have and someone sending a copy of their =
old=20
owner's manual is against the law. And I am wrong for =
being=20
frustrated?????? <BR><BR>Sprocket or=20
whatever<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV>Please respond to <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:sprocket80@hotmail.com">sprocket80@hotmail.com</A></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>From: R22RumRunner@aol.com=20
<DIV></DIV>Reply-To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
<DIV></DIV>To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
<DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Document library=20
<DIV></DIV>Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:25:04 EDT=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Dear Sprocket or whatever,=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I don't understand you. You ask questions of this list =
which is=20
comprised of=20
<DIV></DIV>owners, not the manufacturer and when you get answers you =
don't=20
like, you=20
<DIV></DIV>pout. GET OVER IT. If you want help, play nice or take your =
boat=20
and go=20
<DIV></DIV>elsewhere.=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Rummy=20
<DIV></DIV></DIV><BR clear=3Dall>
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