[Rhodes22-list] Problems with my shrouds?

Roger Pihlaja rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Fri, 30 Aug 2002 21:12:57 -0400


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Dear Toad,

With the mast stepped, how else would we take the measurements you =
requested?  Actually, Gary enjoys the bosun's chair & I needed the =
workout.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Toad the Wet Sprocket=20
  To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Problems with my shrouds?


  Roger,

     That answered my question.  Didn't expect you to send Gary up in a =
bosun's chair.  Hope that was the part you were kidding about.   I see I =
better not ask any more questions unless it is an emergency. =20







  Please respond to sprocket80@hotmail.com

  From: "Roger Pihlaja"=20
  Reply-To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  To:=20
  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Problems with my shrouds?=20
  Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:15:28 -0400=20
  Dear Toad,=20
  Sorry for the delay in responding. But, I had to wait for my 16 year =
old son, Gary, to get home from school so I could hoist him up the mast =
in our bosun's chair to make your requested measurements of the pins at =
our spreaders.=20
  The socket for the spreaders & the bracket which serves as the mast =
attachment point for the lower sidestays on Dynamic Equilibrium are =
essentially the same as in your picture. The dimensions for the pins =
which attach the lower sidestay clevis to the bracket are:=20
  0.180" OD X 0.50 Long From The Underside Of The Head To The End Of The =
Pin=20
  As close as Gary could measure with a verneer caliper, while hanging =
from a bosun's chair, all 4 pins are identical.=20
  The pins are inserted from the backside, that is, the head of the pin =
is nearest the mast. The pin is inserted thru one side of the clevis, =
thru the bracket, thru the other side of the clevis, & is secured on the =
outside with a SS cotter pin. The whole assembly has only a fraction of =
an inch of slop.=20
  While you're being a royal PITA, how else can we serve you? Just =
kidding!=20
  Roger Pihlaja=20
  S/V Dynamic Equilibrium=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Toad the Wet Sprocket=20
  To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:34 AM=20
  Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Problems with my shrouds?=20
  All,=20
  The lower shrouds attach to the mast to a cheek bracket just below the =
spreaders. There is a pin that goes through the shroud ends and the =
bracket. This pin is about 1" long on my boat and the ends seem to be =
just flopping back and forth along the pin. What should it look like? I =
have attached a photo and a drawing so all can see what I mean. Any and =
all info will be greatly appreciated.=20
  Sprocket=20
  Please respond to sprocket80@hotmail.com=20
  From: "Roger Pihlaja"=20
  Reply-To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  To:=20
  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Epoxy, glue, What kind=20
  Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:14:13 -0400=20
  Ed,=20
  If you never, EVER want to be able to remove the fastener again, then =
use=20
  epoxy. I like the WEST System of epoxy from the Gougeon Brothers; but, =
the=20
  specific brand of epoxy isn't very important, they're all about the =
same.=20
  The thing I like about the WEST System is the comprehensive array of=20
  fillers, pigments, thickening agents, fiber reinforcment, choppped =
strand,=20
  mat, glass fiber tape, + slow, medium, & fast cure catalysts they =
offer for=20
  one stop FRP (Fiber Reinforced Plastic) shopping.=20
  Remember, in that post, the epoxy is doing two things. It's preventing =
the=20
  fastener from coming loose & it's providing the eletrical barrier =
between=20
  dissimilar metals thus preventing corrosion.=20
  Roger Pihlaja=20
  S/V Dynamic Equilibrium=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: "Ed Kroposki"=20
  To:=20
  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:54 AM=20
  Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Epoxy, glue, What kind=20
  > Roger:=20
  > Yesterday, when I was having some email/computer problems, I=20
  sent=20
  > a post to the list about "Which epoxy, glue to use" when attaching a =
rail=20
  > to the mast. I think that the post went the same place as the first =
part=20
  of=20
  > the reply to you.=20
  > A few weeks ago there were some comments on the list about=20
  what=20
  > to use on screws to the Mast. The comments were embedded in the =
replys=20
  > about fixing something else.=20
  > One of the replies said use epoxy, but didn't say which.=20
  > Another said use Loctite, but again didn't say which Loctite (they =
do make=20
  > several types)=20
  > Comments please.=20
  >=20
  > Ed K=20
  >=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Toad,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>With the mast stepped, how else would =
we take the=20
measurements you requested?&nbsp; Actually, Gary enjoys the bosun's =
chair &amp;=20
I needed the workout.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roger Pihlaja</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dsprocket80@hotmail.com =
href=3D"mailto:sprocket80@hotmail.com">Toad the=20
  Wet Sprocket</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 30, 2002 =
9:05=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] =
Problems=20
  with my shrouds?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P>Roger,</P>
  <P>&nbsp;&nbsp; That answered my question.&nbsp; Didn't expect you to =
send=20
  Gary up in a bosun's chair.&nbsp; Hope that was the part you were =
kidding=20
  about.&nbsp;&nbsp; I see I better not ask any more questions unless it =
is an=20
  emergency.&nbsp; <BR><BR></P></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV><BR><BR><BR>
  <DIV>Please respond to <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:sprocket80@hotmail.com">sprocket80@hotmail.com</A></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>From: "Roger Pihlaja" <CEN09402@CENTURYTEL.NET>
  <DIV></DIV>Reply-To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20
  <DIV></DIV>To: <RHODES22-LIST@RHODES22.ORG>
  <DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Problems with my shrouds?=20
  <DIV></DIV>Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:15:28 -0400=20
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>Dear Toad,=20
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>Sorry for the delay in responding. But, I had to wait for =
my 16=20
  year old son, Gary, to get home from school so I could hoist him up =
the mast=20
  in our bosun's chair to make your requested measurements of the pins =
at our=20
  spreaders.=20
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>The socket for the spreaders &amp; the bracket which serves =
as the=20
  mast attachment point for the lower sidestays on Dynamic Equilibrium =
are=20
  essentially the same as in your picture. The dimensions for the pins =
which=20
  attach the lower sidestay clevis to the bracket are:=20
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>0.180" OD X 0.50 Long From The Underside Of The Head To The =
End Of=20
  The Pin=20
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>As close as Gary could measure with a verneer caliper, =
while=20
  hanging from a bosun's chair, all 4 pins are identical.=20
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>The pins are inserted from the backside, that is, the head =
of the=20
  pin is nearest the mast. The pin is inserted thru one side of the =
clevis, thru=20
  the bracket, thru the other side of the clevis, &amp; is secured on =
the=20
  outside with a SS cotter pin. The whole assembly has only a fraction =
of an=20
  inch of slop.=20
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>While you're being a royal PITA, how else can we serve you? =
Just=20
  kidding!=20
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>Roger Pihlaja=20
  <DIV></DIV>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium=20
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV></DIV>From: Toad the Wet Sprocket=20
  <DIV></DIV>To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  <DIV></DIV>Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:34 AM=20
  <DIV></DIV>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Problems with my shrouds?=20
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>All,=20
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>The lower shrouds attach to the mast to a cheek bracket =
just below=20
  the spreaders. There is a pin that goes through the shroud ends and =
the=20
  bracket. This pin is about 1" long on my boat and the ends seem to be =
just=20
  flopping back and forth along the pin. What should it look like? I =
have=20
  attached a photo and a drawing so all can see what I mean. Any and all =
info=20
  will be greatly appreciated.=20
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>Sprocket=20
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>Please respond to sprocket80@hotmail.com=20
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>From: "Roger Pihlaja"=20
  <DIV></DIV>Reply-To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  <DIV></DIV>To:=20
  <DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Epoxy, glue, What kind=20
  <DIV></DIV>Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:14:13 -0400=20
  <DIV></DIV>Ed,=20
  <DIV></DIV>If you never, EVER want to be able to remove the fastener =
again,=20
  then use=20
  <DIV></DIV>epoxy. I like the WEST System of epoxy from the Gougeon =
Brothers;=20
  but, the=20
  <DIV></DIV>specific brand of epoxy isn't very important, they're all =
about the=20
  same.=20
  <DIV></DIV>The thing I like about the WEST System is the comprehensive =
array=20
  of=20
  <DIV></DIV>fillers, pigments, thickening agents, fiber reinforcment, =
choppped=20
  strand,=20
  <DIV></DIV>mat, glass fiber tape, + slow, medium, &amp; fast cure =
catalysts=20
  they offer for=20
  <DIV></DIV>one stop FRP (Fiber Reinforced Plastic) shopping.=20
  <DIV></DIV>Remember, in that post, the epoxy is doing two things. It's =

  preventing the=20
  <DIV></DIV>fastener from coming loose &amp; it's providing the =
eletrical=20
  barrier between=20
  <DIV></DIV>dissimilar metals thus preventing corrosion.=20
  <DIV></DIV>Roger Pihlaja=20
  <DIV></DIV>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium=20
  <DIV></DIV>----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV></DIV>From: "Ed Kroposki"=20
  <DIV></DIV>To:=20
  <DIV></DIV>Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:54 AM=20
  <DIV></DIV>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Epoxy, glue, What kind=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; Roger:=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; Yesterday, when I was having some email/computer =
problems, I=20
  <DIV></DIV>sent=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; a post to the list about "Which epoxy, glue to use" =
when=20
  attaching a rail=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; to the mast. I think that the post went the same place =
as the=20
  first part=20
  <DIV></DIV>of=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; the reply to you.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; A few weeks ago there were some comments on the list =
about=20
  <DIV></DIV>what=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; to use on screws to the Mast. The comments were =
embedded in=20
  the replys=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; about fixing something else.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; One of the replies said use epoxy, but didn't say =
which.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; Another said use Loctite, but again didn't say which =
Loctite=20
  (they do make=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; several types)=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; Comments please.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; Ed K=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
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