[Rhodes22-list] Problems with my shrouds?
Michael Meltzer
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You are a good man Rodger
MJM
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From: Roger Pihlaja=20
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Problems with my shrouds?
Dear Toad,
With the mast stepped, how else would we take the measurements you =
requested? Actually, Gary enjoys the bosun's chair & I needed the =
workout.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Toad the Wet Sprocket=20
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Problems with my shrouds?
Roger,
That answered my question. Didn't expect you to send Gary up in =
a bosun's chair. Hope that was the part you were kidding about. I see =
I better not ask any more questions unless it is an emergency. =20
Please respond to sprocket80@hotmail.com
From: "Roger Pihlaja"=20
Reply-To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
To:=20
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Problems with my shrouds?=20
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:15:28 -0400=20
Dear Toad,=20
Sorry for the delay in responding. But, I had to wait for my 16 year =
old son, Gary, to get home from school so I could hoist him up the mast =
in our bosun's chair to make your requested measurements of the pins at =
our spreaders.=20
The socket for the spreaders & the bracket which serves as the mast =
attachment point for the lower sidestays on Dynamic Equilibrium are =
essentially the same as in your picture. The dimensions for the pins =
which attach the lower sidestay clevis to the bracket are:=20
0.180" OD X 0.50 Long From The Underside Of The Head To The End Of =
The Pin=20
As close as Gary could measure with a verneer caliper, while hanging =
from a bosun's chair, all 4 pins are identical.=20
The pins are inserted from the backside, that is, the head of the =
pin is nearest the mast. The pin is inserted thru one side of the =
clevis, thru the bracket, thru the other side of the clevis, & is =
secured on the outside with a SS cotter pin. The whole assembly has only =
a fraction of an inch of slop.=20
While you're being a royal PITA, how else can we serve you? Just =
kidding!=20
Roger Pihlaja=20
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Toad the Wet Sprocket=20
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:34 AM=20
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Problems with my shrouds?=20
All,=20
The lower shrouds attach to the mast to a cheek bracket just below =
the spreaders. There is a pin that goes through the shroud ends and the =
bracket. This pin is about 1" long on my boat and the ends seem to be =
just flopping back and forth along the pin. What should it look like? I =
have attached a photo and a drawing so all can see what I mean. Any and =
all info will be greatly appreciated.=20
Sprocket=20
Please respond to sprocket80@hotmail.com=20
From: "Roger Pihlaja"=20
Reply-To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
To:=20
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Epoxy, glue, What kind=20
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:14:13 -0400=20
Ed,=20
If you never, EVER want to be able to remove the fastener again, =
then use=20
epoxy. I like the WEST System of epoxy from the Gougeon Brothers; =
but, the=20
specific brand of epoxy isn't very important, they're all about the =
same.=20
The thing I like about the WEST System is the comprehensive array of =
fillers, pigments, thickening agents, fiber reinforcment, choppped =
strand,=20
mat, glass fiber tape, + slow, medium, & fast cure catalysts they =
offer for=20
one stop FRP (Fiber Reinforced Plastic) shopping.=20
Remember, in that post, the epoxy is doing two things. It's =
preventing the=20
fastener from coming loose & it's providing the eletrical barrier =
between=20
dissimilar metals thus preventing corrosion.=20
Roger Pihlaja=20
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Ed Kroposki"=20
To:=20
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:54 AM=20
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Epoxy, glue, What kind=20
> Roger:=20
> Yesterday, when I was having some email/computer problems, I=20
sent=20
> a post to the list about "Which epoxy, glue to use" when attaching =
a rail=20
> to the mast. I think that the post went the same place as the =
first part=20
of=20
> the reply to you.=20
> A few weeks ago there were some comments on the list about=20
what=20
> to use on screws to the Mast. The comments were embedded in the =
replys=20
> about fixing something else.=20
> One of the replies said use epoxy, but didn't say which.=20
> Another said use Loctite, but again didn't say which Loctite (they =
do make=20
> several types)=20
> Comments please.=20
>=20
> Ed K=20
>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You are a good man Rodger</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 30, 2002 =
9:12=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] =
Problems=20
with my shrouds?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Toad,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>With the mast stepped, how else would =
we take the=20
measurements you requested? Actually, Gary enjoys the bosun's =
chair=20
& I needed the workout.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roger Pihlaja</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dsprocket80@hotmail.com =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 30, 2002 =
9:05=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] =
Problems=20
with my shrouds?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P>Roger,</P>
<P> That answered my question. Didn't expect you =
to send=20
Gary up in a bosun's chair. Hope that was the part you were =
kidding=20
about. I see I better not ask any more questions unless =
it is an=20
emergency. <BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV>Please respond to <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:sprocket80@hotmail.com">sprocket80@hotmail.com</A></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>From: "Roger Pihlaja" <CEN09402@CENTURYTEL.NET>
<DIV></DIV>Reply-To: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20
<DIV></DIV>To: <RHODES22-LIST@RHODES22.ORG>
<DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Problems with my shrouds?=20
<DIV></DIV>Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:15:28 -0400=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Dear Toad,=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Sorry for the delay in responding. But, I had to wait for =
my 16=20
year old son, Gary, to get home from school so I could hoist him up =
the mast=20
in our bosun's chair to make your requested measurements of the pins =
at our=20
spreaders.=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>The socket for the spreaders & the bracket which =
serves as=20
the mast attachment point for the lower sidestays on Dynamic =
Equilibrium are=20
essentially the same as in your picture. The dimensions for the pins =
which=20
attach the lower sidestay clevis to the bracket are:=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>0.180" OD X 0.50 Long From The Underside Of The Head To =
The End=20
Of The Pin=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>As close as Gary could measure with a verneer caliper, =
while=20
hanging from a bosun's chair, all 4 pins are identical.=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>The pins are inserted from the backside, that is, the =
head of the=20
pin is nearest the mast. The pin is inserted thru one side of the =
clevis,=20
thru the bracket, thru the other side of the clevis, & is =
secured on the=20
outside with a SS cotter pin. The whole assembly has only a fraction =
of an=20
inch of slop.=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>While you're being a royal PITA, how else can we serve =
you? Just=20
kidding!=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Roger Pihlaja=20
<DIV></DIV>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV></DIV>From: Toad the Wet Sprocket=20
<DIV></DIV>To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
<DIV></DIV>Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:34 AM=20
<DIV></DIV>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Problems with my shrouds?=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>All,=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>The lower shrouds attach to the mast to a cheek bracket =
just=20
below the spreaders. There is a pin that goes through the shroud =
ends and=20
the bracket. This pin is about 1" long on my boat and the ends seem =
to be=20
just flopping back and forth along the pin. What should it look =
like? I have=20
attached a photo and a drawing so all can see what I mean. Any and =
all info=20
will be greatly appreciated.=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Sprocket=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Please respond to sprocket80@hotmail.com=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>From: "Roger Pihlaja"=20
<DIV></DIV>Reply-To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
<DIV></DIV>To:=20
<DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Epoxy, glue, What kind=20
<DIV></DIV>Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:14:13 -0400=20
<DIV></DIV>Ed,=20
<DIV></DIV>If you never, EVER want to be able to remove the fastener =
again,=20
then use=20
<DIV></DIV>epoxy. I like the WEST System of epoxy from the Gougeon =
Brothers;=20
but, the=20
<DIV></DIV>specific brand of epoxy isn't very important, they're all =
about=20
the same.=20
<DIV></DIV>The thing I like about the WEST System is the =
comprehensive array=20
of=20
<DIV></DIV>fillers, pigments, thickening agents, fiber reinforcment, =
choppped strand,=20
<DIV></DIV>mat, glass fiber tape, + slow, medium, & fast cure =
catalysts=20
they offer for=20
<DIV></DIV>one stop FRP (Fiber Reinforced Plastic) shopping.=20
<DIV></DIV>Remember, in that post, the epoxy is doing two things. =
It's=20
preventing the=20
<DIV></DIV>fastener from coming loose & it's providing the =
eletrical=20
barrier between=20
<DIV></DIV>dissimilar metals thus preventing corrosion.=20
<DIV></DIV>Roger Pihlaja=20
<DIV></DIV>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium=20
<DIV></DIV>----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV></DIV>From: "Ed Kroposki"=20
<DIV></DIV>To:=20
<DIV></DIV>Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:54 AM=20
<DIV></DIV>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Epoxy, glue, What kind=20
<DIV></DIV>> Roger:=20
<DIV></DIV>> Yesterday, when I was having some email/computer =
problems, I=20
<DIV></DIV>sent=20
<DIV></DIV>> a post to the list about "Which epoxy, glue to use" =
when=20
attaching a rail=20
<DIV></DIV>> to the mast. I think that the post went the same =
place as=20
the first part=20
<DIV></DIV>of=20
<DIV></DIV>> the reply to you.=20
<DIV></DIV>> A few weeks ago there were some comments on the list =
about=20
<DIV></DIV>what=20
<DIV></DIV>> to use on screws to the Mast. The comments were =
embedded in=20
the replys=20
<DIV></DIV>> about fixing something else.=20
<DIV></DIV>> One of the replies said use epoxy, but didn't say =
which.=20
<DIV></DIV>> Another said use Loctite, but again didn't say which =
Loctite=20
(they do make=20
<DIV></DIV>> several types)=20
<DIV></DIV>> Comments please.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>> Ed K=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>> _______________________________________=20
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