[Rhodes22-list] Picture of heavy weather sail adjustments

[Roger Pihlaja]

Steve,

My mistake, I thought you were racing.

Roger

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve" <rhodes2282@yahoo.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Picture of heavy weather sail adjustments


> Excellent analysis, Roger.  Right on all counts.  My
> main does have a 2nd set of reef points but I wasn't
> trying for maximun speed.  I didn't even bouther to
> run the genona sheets inside the upper shrounds. Just
> flaten it fairly good.   It was just a 25k wind day
> and Marilyn & I were out having some fun.  So you had
> to mention the fenders:-)No I did not bouther to stol
> them away as I should have.  Beside, note I'm on the
> lee side drinking a beer:-)  A man must have
> priorties.  I did put Marilyn on the windard side:-) 
> I get extra points for that:-) It was a fun sail that
> day and some friends of mine that were anchored in
> Goat Cove took the pictures.  They would not pull up
> anchors and sail that day.  I think there excuse had
> something to do with the wind; sounded lame to me:-)
> Steve
> 
> 
> --- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402@centurytel.net> wrote:
> > Steve,
> > 
> > I just took a look at the picture.  Great shot man,
> > who took it?
> > 
> > Your mainsail shape & trim looks pretty good.  Your
> > forestay sag is
> > negligible.  The rest of the standing rigging seems
> > to tuned about right.
> > 
> > Your fore/aft genoa sheet lead position looks pretty
> > good.  But, it looks
> > like your genoa could be trimmed in harder if you
> > were trying for maximum
> > pointing.  If you were going for power, then it
> > looks about right.  The
> > water looks pretty flat to be setup for power, but
> > maybe you were
> > accelerating out of a tack.  Judging from the US
> > flag on your stern, you
> > were pointing pretty high.  The genoa's sailshape is
> > much too rounded, with
> > the point of maximum draft too far aft for maximum
> > pointing efficiency.
> > But, the sailshape is about as good as is possible
> > with a roller furled
> > genoa furled up that much.  I imagine the upwind
> > steering groove is pretty
> > narrow & unforgiving with a genoa sailshape like
> > that.
> > 
> > Personally, I like to put another reef in the
> > mainsail & fly more genoa
> > under these conditions & point of sail.  It looks
> > like you are running with
> > 5-7 deg of weather helm on the rudder.  While this
> > amount of weather helm
> > was probably not uncomfortable, it does add drag &
> > slow you down
> > unnecessarily.  Reefing down the mainsail & flying
> > more genoa will get rid
> > of all or almost all of the weather helm.  In
> > addition, reefing the genoa
> > less will enable your foresail shape to be
> > dramatically better.  Does your
> > mainsail have a 2nd or even a 3rd set of reef
> > points?  If not, then consider
> > installing the reef points on the sail & the
> > necessary equipment on the
> > boom.  It's not an expensive upgrade & you will be
> > surprised at the
> > improvement.
> > 
> > What are you dragging in the water on the port side
> > of the boat about
> > amidships?  Fenders?
> > 
> > You could have been going much faster & heeling less
> > if you lowered your pop
> > top hatch and moved the mainsail's gooseneck down to
> > the lower position
> > under these conditions.  The pop top hatch is all
> > heeling and drag & no
> > thrust in the raised position on a close hauled
> > point of sail.  The genoa
> > sail trimmer & helmsman will also be able to see the
> > telltales much better
> > with the pop top hatch out of the way.
> > 
> > I can also tell from the shape of your bow & stern
> > wakes and the attitude of
> > your boat in the water that you could be going
> > faster if your crew moved
> > forward to the front of the cockpit & were all up on
> > the windward gunnel.
> > Watch your knotmeter as you shift the crew weight
> > forward & to windward.
> > You will suddenly see it jump up 1 - 2 knots as you
> > begin to plane.
> > 
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kroposki" <kroposki@innova.net>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 11:09 AM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Picture of heavy weather
> > sail adjustments
> > 
> > 
> > > Steve,
> > >        Thank you for the picture:
> > >
> >
> (http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200212/23/scan000
> > > 5.bin ).
> > >        Demonstrates several points clearly.
> > >
> > >                                       Ed K
> > >
> > >
> > >
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