[Rhodes22-list] Fw: [rhodes-list] New list
Michael Meltzer
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:29:43 -0400
maybe you should send his the cleaned up version, read allot better :-)
MJM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rik Sandberg" <racerrik@rea-alp.com>
To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fw: [rhodes-list] New list
> Fired up the old decoder ring. Here's the translated version.
>
> Rik
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 2:28 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fw: [rhodes-list] New list
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com>
> > To: <rhodes-list@sailnet.net>
> > Cc: "Sam Boyle" <sboyle@sailnet.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 3:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: [rhodes-list] New list
> >
> >
> > > Sam when you are right you are right. I am sorry for any action that
you
> > > took offense with or generated any ill will. That was not my intention
> > here.
> > > We have been here for many years(6+-) with only respect for you
> providing
> > > this service. I was under the impression that this was a public
service
> of
> > > sailnet, an expense that you have born most graciously. You have given
> us a
> > > place to meet, talk and share time and boating knowledge together. I
> (we)
> > > Thank You.
> > >
> > > What happened was born from "Frustration". The list has become very
> > > importnat for out lives and the lost mail, delays, outages have been a
> > > problem. I think also it came from not being able to reach anyone when
> > their
> > > is a problem, to control bad behavior on the list and the policies
that
> kept
> > > cutting down attachments.
> > >
> > > For what it is worth, I do believe in you, I am the one who put in and
> > > maintains the link on the rhodes22.com site that has sent traffic here
> for the
> > > last 6 years. I have bought equipment from sailnet over the years. I
> think in
> > > fairness, I added a footer to the new list
"http://www.sailnet.com/ --
> > > Where Sailors Get It!", thought it was the right thing to do. Also I
> would
> > > be happy to add any user id that you wish so people could get your
> weekly
> > > store mailer, again it is the right thing to do. (have your sysadmin
> > email,
> > > takes a few miniutes to do).
> > >
> > >
> > > You never know we might all be back, never know when I go down :-)
> > >
> > > MJM
> > > PS. The computer guy in me wants to suggest you show your systems guy
> this
> > > letter.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Sam Boyle" <sboyle@sailnet.com>
> > > To: <rhodes-list@sailnet.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 1:26 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [rhodes-list] New list
> > >
> > >
> > > Been following this thread with a growing sense of disappointment.
> > >
> > > People are certainly free to spend time on any list they choose. That
> > said,
> > > I have to question the "manners" of using our resources to promote
> > something
> > > else... seems a tad bit like biting the hand that's fed this list for
> > > years...
> > >
> > > If folks want to leave then we wish you well. We are asking that you
> take
> > > that discussion elsewhere and that we have no more of this "guiding
> people
> > > to the new list" stuff. It just feels bad.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > -- Sam
> > >
> > > **************************************************************
> > > http://www.sailnet.com/ -- Where Sailors Get It!
> > > **************************************************************
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
> > >
> > > Subject: RE: [rhodes-list] New list
> > > Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:13:00 -0400
> > > From: Paul Grandholm <PAUL@mi.chtechnology.com>
> > > To: rhodes-list@sailnet.net
> > >
> > > Michael,
> > >
> > > Please forgive a dumb question from a relatively computer
> > > challenged guy. I'm already overloaded with emails so I'm not
inclined
> > > to stay on both lists, but I don't want to miss anything either. What
I
> > > think you're advising us to do is to unsubscribe from the sailnet list
> > > and subscribe to your new list. Is that correct? Is the correct
timing
> > > to do that right now? Please let me know & I'll make the switch.
Also,
> > > thanks for all the behind-the-scenes work you must have put into to
> this.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > >I suspect that most of the new members come from the rhodes22.com
link
> > > page,
> > > > frankly is hard to spot sailnets lists their site is focused more on
> the
> > > > store. If you are a "old-timer" you know, but a new person would be
> hard
> > > > pressed.
> > > >
> > > >The link idea is a good one :-) I should have thought of it :-) the
> > problem
> > > > is mime is a pain-in-the-ass, the day job is eating cycles right
now,
> I
> > > get
> > > > to it soon(weekend maybe). For now the max size is 128k after that
it
> > > needs
> > > > approval, should be ok to dailup at that size. I also need to
"demine"
> > and
> > > > "dehtml" the stuff for the archive and dijest, got a script for that
> but
> > > > need to drop it in :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >BTW rhodes22.org could use a home page. :-)
> > > >
> > > >MJM
> > > >
> > > >PS. ps people I will not cross post for long and you are missing
stuff
> > > > already :-)
> > > >http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Gardner, Douglas L. (LNG)
> > > > To: 'rhodes-list@sailnet.net'
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:15 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [rhodes-list] New list
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have worked closely with MJM in the past (setting up the photo
> site),
> > > > and have complete confidence that this will be a superior list.
> > > >
> > > > I do have 2 concerns, though.
> > > > 1) The sailnet list probably gets more traffic from 'casual'
> browsers.
> > > > How will new members find the new list? One possibility... I'll
> > probably
> > > > stay subscribed to both. If a few others do the same, we can point
> > people
> > > > in the right direction.
> > > > 2) I like the ability to send attachments, but there should be a
size
> > > > limit. Some of us are still on a dial-up connection. 60k or so
> should
> > be
> > > > more than sufficient for a photo, and exceptions can be made on a
> > > > case-by-ca se basis, based on expressed desire from list members. A
> > > future
> > > > enhancement would be for MJM to dump all attachments into a
directory
> > and
> > > > substitute with an URL pointing to it. That way we could put just
> about
> > > > anything up there and not bog down e-mail downloads. (how do you
like
> > > that
> > > > Michael? We're already writing requirements for release 2.0! ;^)
> > > >
> > > > Just a couple of thoughts.
> > > >
> > > > --Doug
> > > >
> > > > ps: OK, Michael. Maybe its time we work on the photo site again?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bill Effros [mailto:bill@effros.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:11 AM
> > > > To: rhodes-list@sailnet.net
> > > > Subject: Re: [rhodes-list] New list
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > YES!
> > > >
> > > > Michael's new system works better than any system we have used
> > before.
> > > >
> > > > It is very very fast.
> > > >
> > > > We can send attachments.
> > > >
> > > > No ads. No spam.
> > > >
> > > > We can direct people to Rummy's list, Tom's FAQ, and various
> picture
> > > > sites maintained by others.
> > > >
> > > > We can write our own rules for what is appropriate for our list.
> > > >
> > > > We can maintain our list so we don't have to rebuild it if the
> > service
> > > > provider loses or changes its service.
> > > >
> > > > Michael has done an incredible job in a short period of time.
> (This
> > is
> > > > standard procedure for MJM.) Someone has helped him proofread his
> work.
> > > > Thanks to that person or persons.
> > > >
> > > > Click on the link & sign up:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> > > >
> > > > Make suggestions about how Michael can improve the way it works,
> the
> > > > wording, etc.
> > > >
> > > > This is truly our list.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure most of us will stay on the Sailnet list as well, but
once
> > > > you've seen the speed of a list working the way it should, you will
> find
> > > it
> > > > difficult to go back to snail email.
> > > >
> > > > Bill Effros
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Michael Meltzer
> > > > To: rhodes-list@sailnet.net
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 1:36 AM
> > > > Subject: [rhodes-list] New list
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Some people might have noticed some Strange messages on the
list
> > here
> > > > what is happening.
> > > >
> > > > Well everyone, we know what happen last weekend, the sailnet
list
> > > took
> > > > a hit. Not liking the list being down I set up a new listserver
under
> > > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list .
> > > >
> > > > 1)It is a commercial grade server controlled by us
> > > > 2)It is fast, message turnaround is under 1 minute, I make sure
> it
> > > > stays that way(sailnet seems to be 2 hours)
> > > > 3)attachment are ok(we control it)
> > > > 4)The footer lines are for the list benefit, not to sell ad
space
> > > > 5)when people sign up they get the rhodes22 charter
> > > > 6)The archive system is useable, bet even that will be improved
> > > > 7)The control screen are simple and understandable
> > > > 8)We control it to make it fit your needs
> > > >
> > > > Well at this point I built it, it is open to all comers, are we
> > ready
> > > > for it?
> > > >
> > > > MJM
> > >
> > > ========================
> > > Paul Grandholm
> > > C&H Technology
> > > GrandPower Components Div.
> > > ========================
> > >
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