[Rhodes22-list] Cooking

[Bill Effros]

Brad,

We have long skirted over the cooking issue, I'm glad you brought it up.

Like you, I'm uncomfortable with the fire down below.  Roger has faced all
adjacent surfaces with stainless steel.  Have you seen those pictures?

The Magma BarBQue grill can be hung over the stern rail so that it and the
fuel and anything on fire will simply fall semi-harmlessly into the water.
The new propane magmas can be used as a grill, as an oven, or as a burner.
I store my grill in the lazarette and can quickly set it up as needed.
However it's a little awkward leaning out to cook, and many a good meal has
fallen overboard.

Roger pre-plans everything, packs food in dry ice, and prefers to cook it on
shore.  Since a Rhodes can be pulled right up to the beach this is a viable
option.

Cooking on board is dicey even in much larger boats.  Scalding is always a
danger, in addition to carbon monoxide, stuff catching on fire below deck,
and fuel exploding.

I doubt that cooking electrically is viable.  The current draw is enormous
and will suck the life out of as many batteries as you would ever consider
carrying.  The small generator cannot provide enough power for cook as you
generate, and would have to stay on 24 hours a day to recharge the batteries
for 15 minutes of use.  You'll wind up carrying and playing with a whole lot
of gasoline high on a potentially rocking boat (not supposed to refill while
hot--just one more problem.)

Bill Berner has done a lot of cruising, and I'd love to hear how he has
handled this problem.

I'd also love to hear how others handle both overnight cooking and cruising
cooking.

Bill Effros


----- Original Message -----
From: "brad haslett" <flybrad@yahoo.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electrical KISS


Bill, for some reason about half the photos from the
R-22 server come up as text files on my computer.
Haven't figured that one out yet.  I looked for the
Thermos solution on the Rhodes22.org site but didn't
find it.  We currently use a thermos for our day auto
trips and it works fine and would suffice for
daysailing.  One of the nice things about being on the
Tennessee River is the ability to travel and yet stay
in protected waters.  My older sons and I plan to make
a trip to Knoxville in one direction and KY Lake in
the other, each trip 3-5 days or more if we don't
trailer home and possibly to Mobile as well.  I've
already done the wiring for shore power, and the DC
stuff is a piece of cake (I worked as an aircraft
mechanic decades ago and have an A&P license).  The
only issue for me is weight and storage space.  We
don't plan on having any six course meals on board
just some soup, some coffee, and some hot butter for
Rummy if we cross paths.  I've owned three VW campers
and an Airstream and I'm just not a big fan of fire in
confined spaces especially when it rocks.  Obviously I
could buy bigger boat that had all the bells and
whistles but I bet their owner list would be dull.

Brad Haslett
"CoraShen"
--- Bill Effros <bill@effros.com> wrote:
> Brad,
>
> Have you seen Roger's Hot Water Thermos solution to
> the problem?  Seems a
> lot simpler to me.  I've attached the pictures.
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "brad haslett" <flybrad@yahoo.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 1:34 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electrical KISS
>
>
> Actually there is one high power draw application
> that
> I'm condidering but because I haven't done the math
> yet I haven't thrown it out to the list for
> discussion.  My boat doesn't have a stove and there
> really isn't a single one I've seen yet that fills
> all
> the squares for me.  I'm not paranoid but I have
> seen
> all the pictures from the early days of the DC-10
> where one of our Middle Eastern friends set the
> airplane on fire cooking goat on the way to Mecca.
> Starting an open flame in an R-22 galley doesn't
> apeal
> to me so here's the idea:  I need hot water about
> 2-3
> times a day, once for coffee, maybe soup, and my
> daughter's needs.  A 12v DC coffee maker would do
> the
> trick without the need for a stove.  If I keep the
> use
> down to 15 minutes at a time for less than 2-3 times
> a
> day I think an extra battery would suffice.  If
> someone has already done this or wants to "run the
> numbers" let me know (I never pass up free math
> tutoring or electrical engineering).  Brad.
>
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