[Rhodes22-list] Cooking
brad haslett
flybrad@yahoo.com
Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:58:18 -0800 (PST)
Bill, I've seen several of those grills mounted on
R-22's and I like them. Anne has a charcoal only
grill on hers and I like that. According to my math,
the 12vDC coffee makers draw 12 amps. Assuming a
fully charged 180 amp battery and a 50% draw down
threshold you could make 30 pots of hot water
(assuming a 15 minute cycle) without recharging, more
if you wanted to take the battery closer to death.
(180/2)/(12*.25)= 30 pots. As was pointed out
earlier, you can't always count on the numbers working
as advertised but I'm going to test this theory in my
backyard before I set out.
Brad Haslett
--- Bill Effros <bill@effros.com> wrote:
> Brad,
>
> We have long skirted over the cooking issue, I'm
> glad you brought it up.
>
> Like you, I'm uncomfortable with the fire down
> below. Roger has faced all
> adjacent surfaces with stainless steel. Have you
> seen those pictures?
>
> The Magma BarBQue grill can be hung over the stern
> rail so that it and the
> fuel and anything on fire will simply fall
> semi-harmlessly into the water.
> The new propane magmas can be used as a grill, as an
> oven, or as a burner.
> I store my grill in the lazarette and can quickly
> set it up as needed.
> However it's a little awkward leaning out to cook,
> and many a good meal has
> fallen overboard.
>
> Roger pre-plans everything, packs food in dry ice,
> and prefers to cook it on
> shore. Since a Rhodes can be pulled right up to the
> beach this is a viable
> option.
>
> Cooking on board is dicey even in much larger boats.
> Scalding is always a
> danger, in addition to carbon monoxide, stuff
> catching on fire below deck,
> and fuel exploding.
>
> I doubt that cooking electrically is viable. The
> current draw is enormous
> and will suck the life out of as many batteries as
> you would ever consider
> carrying. The small generator cannot provide enough
> power for cook as you
> generate, and would have to stay on 24 hours a day
> to recharge the batteries
> for 15 minutes of use. You'll wind up carrying and
> playing with a whole lot
> of gasoline high on a potentially rocking boat (not
> supposed to refill while
> hot--just one more problem.)
>
> Bill Berner has done a lot of cruising, and I'd love
> to hear how he has
> handled this problem.
>
> I'd also love to hear how others handle both
> overnight cooking and cruising
> cooking.
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "brad haslett" <flybrad@yahoo.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electrical KISS
>
>
> Bill, for some reason about half the photos from the
> R-22 server come up as text files on my computer.
> Haven't figured that one out yet. I looked for the
> Thermos solution on the Rhodes22.org site but didn't
> find it. We currently use a thermos for our day
> auto
> trips and it works fine and would suffice for
> daysailing. One of the nice things about being on
> the
> Tennessee River is the ability to travel and yet
> stay
> in protected waters. My older sons and I plan to
> make
> a trip to Knoxville in one direction and KY Lake in
> the other, each trip 3-5 days or more if we don't
> trailer home and possibly to Mobile as well. I've
> already done the wiring for shore power, and the DC
> stuff is a piece of cake (I worked as an aircraft
> mechanic decades ago and have an A&P license). The
> only issue for me is weight and storage space. We
> don't plan on having any six course meals on board
> just some soup, some coffee, and some hot butter for
> Rummy if we cross paths. I've owned three VW
> campers
> and an Airstream and I'm just not a big fan of fire
> in
> confined spaces especially when it rocks. Obviously
> I
> could buy bigger boat that had all the bells and
> whistles but I bet their owner list would be dull.
>
> Brad Haslett
> "CoraShen"
> --- Bill Effros <bill@effros.com> wrote:
> > Brad,
> >
> > Have you seen Roger's Hot Water Thermos solution
> to
> > the problem? Seems a
> > lot simpler to me. I've attached the pictures.
> >
> > Bill Effros
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "brad haslett" <flybrad@yahoo.com>
> > To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 1:34 PM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electrical KISS
> >
> >
> > Actually there is one high power draw application
> > that
> > I'm condidering but because I haven't done the
> math
> > yet I haven't thrown it out to the list for
> > discussion. My boat doesn't have a stove and
> there
> > really isn't a single one I've seen yet that fills
> > all
> > the squares for me. I'm not paranoid but I have
> > seen
> > all the pictures from the early days of the DC-10
> > where one of our Middle Eastern friends set the
> > airplane on fire cooking goat on the way to Mecca.
> > Starting an open flame in an R-22 galley doesn't
> > apeal
> > to me so here's the idea: I need hot water about
> > 2-3
> > times a day, once for coffee, maybe soup, and my
> > daughter's needs. A 12v DC coffee maker would do
> > the
> > trick without the need for a stove. If I keep the
> > use
> > down to 15 minutes at a time for less than 2-3
> times
> > a
> > day I think an extra battery would suffice. If
> > someone has already done this or wants to "run the
> > numbers" let me know (I never pass up free math
> > tutoring or electrical engineering). Brad.
> >
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