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Rik Sandberg racerrik@rea-alp.com
Mon, 18 Nov 2002 08:08:01 -0600


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At 05:58 AM 11/18/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>please remove me from this list. Thanks.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger Pihlaja [mailto:cen09402@centurytel.net]
>Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:17 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Right from the get go
>
>
>Alice,
>
>I've added my responses to your questions down in the body of your original
>document.
>
>Roger Pihlaja
>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <AMICW@aol.com>
>To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 7:58 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Right from the get go
>
>
> > Thanks to all who have responded and were generous with their knowledge.
>I
> > plan to sail on the Chesapeake Bay - mostly daysailing but, hopefully with
> > more experience, some overnights in nearby waters.  I've been sailing for
>a
> > while but don't feel very competent and, as I will be sailing alone, am
> > particularly concerned about safety and the power to get there and back if
> > the wind dies.  Did I mention that it takes me almost an hour to get to
>the
> > Bay under sail?  I was considering a 4 stroke 8HP or 9.9 HP motor, but
>then I
> > checked the prices!!!  Looking for something used at this point.  Stan has
> > promised me an electric motor platform and I think I'll also get a power
> > starter.
>
>OK, the Chesapeake Bay is a fairly big, but shallow body of water, which is
>exposed to the Atlantic Ocean.  I've only been there once, sort of a once
>over lightly cruise.  However, from what we saw & from other reading about
>the Chesapeake Bay, it's on my short list of places I'd like to go back &
>spend a lot more time.  You could spend a lifetime exploring this body of
>water.  The Upper Chesapeake Bay is a fairly benign place to learn to sail.
>The Lower Bay must be regarded as essentially ocean sailing, complete with
>commercial & military ship traffic.  You didn't say where your home port
>will be on the bay.  Although, you are evidently pretty far upstream on one
>of the streams or rivers that empty into the bay if it takes you an hour to
>reach the bay under sail.  You will have a tremendous variety of cruising
>choices ranging from deserted anchorages in coves & upstream on the many
>rivers to busy, plush (unfortunately also expensive!) marinas located right
>downtown in places like Baltimore, MD.
>
>There are several safety considerations you should think about.  The
>Chesapeake Bay is fairly infamous for sudden afternoon summer thunderstorms.
>These storms tend to form too quickly to enable a "slow" vessel like a
>sailboat to get to shelter in real time.  If you simply refuse to go sailing
>on days when weather conditions make an afternoon thunderstorm possible;
>then, you will miss about 50% of the sailing days in the summer!  The
>relatively shallow water means that you will have to deal with fairly large
>waves during these thunderstorms, 6 - 8 feet will be common!
>
>Consider getting an extra long shaft engine because a long shaft engine will
>not be able to function effectively in these waves.  The prop will be lifted
>clear of the water.  The prop will cavitate & the engine will lose cooling
>water suction.  Have Stan install the engine mount such that you get maximum
>possible immersion depth on the prop without submerging the power head!
>
>Consider getting remote cockpit or tiller mounted engine controls because
>you don't want to be leaning over the transom fiddling with your outboard
>engine in these conditions.
>
>Consider getting the IMF mainsail, especially if you will be singlehanding.
>Of course, the boat will almost certainly have a roller furling genoa.  Make
>certain all the control lines are led back to the cockpit.  You will want to
>be able to operate both sails completely from the cockpit.
>
>Consider outfitting the boat with jacklines & getting yourself a good combo
>safety harness/PFD.  Stay clipped in when ever you are not in the cabin,
>even in the cockpit.  This is probably the most cost effective safety thing
>you could do.
>
>Learn to sail the boat in heavy air ASAP because the Rhodes 22 can be sailed
>in much heavier conditions than it can be motored in, even with an extra
>long shaft engine.
>
>
>What about the electrical system?  Should I consider an upgrade to 110V ??
>
>Again, how will you use your boat?  If you plan to anchor out a lot, then
>shore power will be pretty useless.  However, if you plan to mostly stay
>overnight in marinas; then, shore power makes possible any number of the
>modern conveniences we all take for granted around home.  Among the more
>important considerations, with shore power you will be able to:
>
>Run your cabin lights all night long if you want to without running your
>battery down.
>Recharge your battery.
>Run a small electric space heater to keep the cabin warm.  Dynamic
>Equilibrium has an Arvin model 29H40 electric space heater, which runs off
>shore power.  This heater has a built-in thermostat with 800 watt, 1600
>watt, & fan only settings.  Most of the time, 800 watts is more than enough
>to warm the Rhodes 22 cabin.  On really hot stuffy nights, the fan only
>setting is pretty nice to have.
>Cook with a hot plate or an electric skillet.
>Run a small portable refrigerator.
>Even things like TV's, VCR's, DVD's, microwave ovens, etc become possible if
>you simply cannot live without them.
>
>
>And what is a co-axial cable?  At present, VHF and GPS will be
>handheld (cheaper), but I want to install on the boat, those things needed
>in
>the structure itself (add-ons can come later).
>
>Coaxial cable is a special type of wire that is used for transmitting radio
>signals without picking up interference from other electrical systems on
>board or nearby the boat.  The most common place to find coaxial cable on a
>sailboat is running up inside the mast to a masthead-mounted VHF radio
>antenna.  There are many grades & sizes of coaxial cable.  I recommend you
>use a marine grade type RG-8U coaxial cable to get the strongest possible
>signal to & from the masthead.  Since this cable runs inside the mast, it's
>easiest to install at the factory.  So why would you want a masthead-mounted
>VHF antenna?  Well, VHF radio transmissions are basically line-of-sight.
>Your handheld VHF with the built-in rubber ducky antenna will be able to
>communicate about 3-4 miles over water with another handheld VHF radio, &
>less over land.  I have a special coaxial cable adaptor that enables me to
>connect my handheld VHF radio to my masthead-mounted antenna.  With the
>masthead-mounted antenna, I can reach out about 6 miles to a handheld &
>about 8-10 miles to another masthead-mounted VHF.  A handheld VHF will only
>transmit at 5 watts maximum power.  An on-board VHF radio with a
>masthead-mounted antenna will transmit about 15-20 miles to another 25 watt
>VHF radio with a good antenna.  Another reason for wanting a
>masthead-mounted antenna is ability to receive VHF NOAA weather channels in
>marginal conditions.  In your cruising area on the Chesapeake Bay, this is
>not likely to be a significant factor, but could be if you ever cruise in a
>more remote area.  Make certain your handheld VHF radio is capable of
>receiving all the VHF NOAA weather channels.
>
>A handheld GPS is fine.  That's what I use.  Consider getting a handheld GPS
>that can also be operated off ship's power so you won't be running down the
>little built-in batteries.
>
>
>Do I need a head or is a portapotti sufficient?
>
>We have a big portapotti on board Dynamic Equilibrium & find it completely
>adequate.  You may not have a choice here as the recycled boat will probably
>come with one of the other.  One nice thing about a portapotti is that you
>can put it out in the cockpit at night so you don't have to live with it in
>the cabin - or the smell if you or a guest has to use the head in the middle
>of the night.  You can also empty a portapotti out ashore in a gas station
>rest room.  But, you must find a pump-out facility if you have a permanently
>installed on-board head with a holding tank.
>
>
>I will NOT be trailering the boat - one expense to avoid (in a way).
>
>A trailer is one of those things that you can purchase later without any
>penalty.  It also saves you the expense of a trailer tow vehicle.
>
>
>Should I get a hatch?  What happens on summer nights -
>very hot inside?  would a hatch be needed for ventilation?
>
>Ventillation is good.  More ventillation is better!  You cannot have too
>many hatches for ventillation.  Without many open hatches, the cabin can get
>pretty stuffy & humid.  Consider getting a solar powered exhaust vent fan
>for the head area.
>
>
>  And do I need
> > electric outlets inside to charge the GPS, VHF, etc??
>
>These will probably come installed with the shore power package.  You don't
>need a lot of outlets.  A computer cord strip will give you all the outlets
>you're ever likely to need, just pay attention to the total electrical load.
>Consider getting one or more DC cigarette lighter outlets because that will
>enable you to run & recharge your GPS, VHF, etc of of the ship's battery for
>those times when you aren't hooked up to shore power.  It will also enable
>you to have a hand held search light for finding that buoy, mooring ball,
>etc if you do any night sailing.
>
>Little by little the
> > price keeps climbing however, I don't plan on another boat anytime in the
> > forseeable future.
> > Any ideas or experience would be appreciated.  Thanks, Alice
>
>We've had Dynamic Equilibrium since the spring of 1987.  We have no plans to
>sell her anytime soon.  The R-22 will serve your needs very for a long time,
>Alice.  Good Luck!
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