[Rhodes22-list] diesel insults

Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:51:14 -0500

Brad,

I agree that many buy full size SUVs with little need for them and most 
would be better served by a mini van. However I also think diesel pickups 
draw a different crowd. Many if not most around here actually use their 
diesel trucks to haul stuff.

Now regarding some of your other ideas.....Personally I like to hear 
creative ideas regarding our boats. I may not try any of the ideas myself 
but I enjoy hearing about them. If the ideas are a little out of the box; 
all the better. More than once a list member has suggested an idea that I 
liked while many others shot down the same idea because it was not 
traditional, or it suggested something different then the way they thought 
things should be done. This didn't mean it wasn't a good idea or wouldn't 
work, it was just different.

You know what they say different strokes for different folks.

Wally

>From: brad haslett <flybrad@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] diesel insults
>Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:00:05 -0800 (PST)
>
>Doug, NO! You shouldn't be insulted.  My comments were
>not directed to you personally or anyone else on the
>list.  A list member asked for information about
>diesels and as a long time diesel driver I shared some
>personal experience.  Thats all.  If you like your
>truck, be happy and live in peace.  I work with 4500
>guys and gals with a larger than average number who
>drive full size diesel pickups that they have little
>legitimate use for (that doesn't mean there isn't
>one).  I poke fun at them all the time and take the
>return fire from them about my "pizza delivery truck"
>(Toyota Tacoma) in good spirit.  Forgive me if my
>politically correct, sensitivity meter was unplugged
>that day but it will probably happen again.  A lot of
>folks on this list think my genset-microwave combo
>either 1 - can't be done or 2 - is silly to begin
>with, and have stated so in so many words.  I find it
>all rather funny and take no offense.  If they
>outright called me an idiot I wouldn't get insulted,
>I'd just take them off my Christmas card list!
>
>Brad Haslett
>"CoraShen"
>--- "Gardner, Douglas L. (LNG-DAY)"
><douglas.gardner@lexisnexis.com> wrote:
> > Well gee...  I don't know if I should be insulted or
> > not!  ;^)  Should I be?
> >
> > It is very true that our truck is MUCH more than
> > necessary when towing the
> > R22.  Truth be known, it is much more than necessary
> > towing our Airstream
> > camper.  We decided to buy it because we wanted to
> > buy a truck which could
> > handle whatever we were likely to throw at it over
> > the next 15 years, and
> > didn't want to wait the extra 10 weeks to special
> > order the 2500 for the
> > same price we could buy the 3500 that was sitting on
> > the lot.
> >
> > I don't know a lot of people with diesel pickups who
> > bought them for the wow
> > factor as they cruise through Hollywood at 5 mph.
> > Look to the new Cadillac
> > Hummer for that. The people I know with pickups
> > either tow, haul heavy loads
> > (for a pickup), or both. I don't often move 600 bd
> > ft of green oak and maple
> > boards, but I do occasionally.  That's why we bought
> > the truck instead of
> > the suburban (which would be a better tow vehicle
> > for camping, btw).
> >
> > I've had 3 pickups: '73 Chevy C|30 (gas, 4sp
> > manual), '92 Ranger (gas, 5sp
> > manual), and '01 Ram 3500 (diesel, 6sp manual ).
> > Frankly, the Ram is (by
> > far) the best vehicle for my needs.  My needs are
> > probably quite different
> > from other's, but those need to be determined by
> > each individual.  Seeing me
> > fill up the truck (with the cap on the back) at the
> > gas station does not
> > provide insight into my needs (unless you happen to
> > see me do it with a load
> > of 12ft oak boards sticking out the back).
> >
> > What is my point? Just remember that statements
> > about people are just that.
> > They are about people.  If they are derogatory
> > statements, then they are
> > derogatory statements about people. I'm sure you
> > weren't trying to imply
> > anything about any particular individual.  However,
> > to properly judge need
> > would require a lot more information than you will
> > have watching someone
> > drive the thing to work.  I frankly disagree with
> > the assertion below. From
> > what I've seen, most people who opt for the diesel
> > engine get real benefit
> > from it.  It is too expensive to buy for vanity. I
> > bet there are a lot more
> > people driving gas powered pickups who really don't
> > need the pickup, than
> > people driving diesel pickups who don't benefit from
> > the diesel. If it is
> > really worth the extra cost for them may be another
> > question. ;^)
> >
> > As far as need, goes... do any of us REALLY need the
> > R22?  Probably not.
> > And how many of us really NEED the IMF?  Not me.  Do
> > I benefit from it? Yes.
> > Am I glad to have it?  You bet!  How 'bout you?
> >
> > Same goes for my truck.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
> >
> > --Doug
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > ...*snip*   I think Rik is right on this one,
> > most of the people who buy diesel pickups really
> > don't
> > need them.  Why they buy them is something only
> > Freud
> > could explain (probably the same reason people put
> > gensets and microwaves on 22 ft. sailboats).  As
> > much
> > fun as I had with the diesels, I am very happy to be
> > punching a GAS pedal.
> >
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