[Rhodes22-list] Todd's No Tell Policy

Toad the Wet Sprocket rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Sun, 01 Sep 2002 01:18:51 -0400


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<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks for writing.&nbsp; Let me start by saying that I do appreciate the hoop jumpers... and teenage son hoisters :-) who have helped me out.</P>
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<P>To answer the two question you forwarded.&nbsp;&nbsp; </P>
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<P>1.&nbsp; I "complain"ed that I could only find two Rhodes near where I keep my boat which&nbsp;south of Annapolis mid-Chesapeake Bay.&nbsp; I live in the southern part of Maryland.&nbsp; </P>
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<P>2.&nbsp; I would have to get back to you on the entire hull number.&nbsp;&nbsp;Going only&nbsp; from memory, the number is something like&nbsp; GBX_____M74J__.&nbsp; If you know someone that has had a blue trimmed 1974? Rhodes 22 stolen, let me know and I will forward the entire number to the proper authorities.</P>
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<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So having a handful&nbsp;of questions&nbsp; answered by the same few knowledgeable people is more attention than anyone else has gotten in years?????&nbsp; And I wasn't asking where someone had mounted the compass in their camel. :-)&nbsp; I try to shoot straight and not hit below the belt but sometimes joke too much.</P>
<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I expressed&nbsp;frustration because I had spent some hours at two finger typing speed to re-type the only tangible literature, made available through the kindness of Mark, MJMeltzer and others, I had seen and about feeling I was getting the brush off by GB and everybody here on the list&nbsp;jumped on my head.&nbsp; Some people acted as if I was making personal attacks on Stan Spitzer himself.&nbsp; One&nbsp;writer implied that if I wanted literature and information--I should drop the 20 grand and buy a new Rhodes 22 and shut up.&nbsp; </P>
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<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I understand that Mr. Spitzer has a business to run, and maybe selling parts or giving advice "for free" isn't how he pays&nbsp;his overhead.&nbsp; But saying "request denied" to letting individuals post copies of literature for individuals on the internet at no charge??&nbsp;&nbsp; Excuse me&nbsp;for thinking and saying here that it doesn't make sense.&nbsp; Is charging $25 a pop for material.. ..uncopyrighted&nbsp;material yet.......the make or break&nbsp; for General Boats?&nbsp;&nbsp; If&nbsp; I had the $20,000 (or whatever a new Rhodes 22 is going for) to buy a new boat just to get a free copy of the uncopyrighted owners manual ...which is a glorified sales brochure...maybe I would have been at the last boat show check in hand.&nbsp;&nbsp;Forgive me if anyone one is sensitive and that&nbsp;hurts their feelings.&nbsp;&nbsp;If no one answers another single question for me because I speak my mind and call 'em as I see "em,&nbsp; then so be it.</P>
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<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; There are more than a few&nbsp;people on this list that have done what I am doing...got an older&nbsp;R22 and are trying to or have fixed &nbsp;it up....and have gotten little support from GB.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I have gotten dozens of private e-mails to tell me this.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; They are glad I am not easily insulted or embarrased and ask stupid questions because they are learning too.&nbsp; Seeing how some have scolded me.....and.......trashed Roger for his concise technical answers,&nbsp;would make&nbsp;most&nbsp;gun-shy to ask anyone anything.&nbsp;&nbsp; I guess I am <U>also</U> a little bit "too engineer anal" because I was overly concerned with getting my boat back into the standard configuration as far an rigging and rudder, etc.&nbsp; when&nbsp;no such animal exists.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Luckily there are some fine people out there that actually know more about boats and the R22 than how to unfurl the main and pop open a Budweiser and aren't afraid to share <U>or</U> straighten me.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</P>
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<P>Todd,&nbsp; Toad,&nbsp; Sprocket,&nbsp; <EM><U>Insert expletive here</U></EM>,</P>
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<DIV>P.S.&nbsp; If anyone needs a sense of humor let me know...I can loan them mine....for $25</DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>From: "lcrowther" <LCROWTHER@COX.NET>
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<DIV></DIV>Reply-To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org 
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<DIV></DIV>To: "New Rhodes22 List" <RHODES22-LIST@RHODES22.ORG>
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<DIV></DIV>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd's No Tell Policy 
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<DIV></DIV>Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 16:16:38 -0400 
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<DIV></DIV>Todd, 
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<DIV></DIV>I have been following your correspondence on this list as have all the list 
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<DIV></DIV>members and would like to offer the following comments. 
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<DIV></DIV>Two direct questions were asked of you that I don't recall you answered. 
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<DIV></DIV>The first was where do you live. You complain that you have found a few 
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<DIV></DIV>Rhodes22s in marina/s near you but would not go on another persons boat 
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<DIV></DIV>without their permission. In my marina there are two Rhodes22s. One was 
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<DIV></DIV>made in the seventies, mine is a mid-eighties version. I have shown my boat 
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<DIV></DIV>to a couple of people who indicated an interest in looking. Maybe mine is 
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<DIV></DIV>one of the ones you found but how would I know. 
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<DIV></DIV>The second direct question I missed the answer to was your boat serial 
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<DIV></DIV>number. I see that you have finally seen fit to share the first three 
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<DIV></DIV>boats built in that time frame to try to help you, i.e., I know my boat 
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<DIV></DIV>the daily special. While I find these options interesting, if I wanted to 
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<DIV></DIV>know about my boat this would add little to my knowledge. 
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<DIV></DIV>I am amazed at the hoops the members of this list have jumped through for 
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<DIV></DIV>you. You have received more attention that anyone in the three years I have 
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<DIV></DIV>been following this list. Not that I would expect any less from the members 
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<DIV></DIV>That being said, I wish you the best of luck in your boat rebuilding 
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