[Rhodes22-list] V-berth flotation

Roger Pihlaja rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Sat, 7 Sep 2002 20:10:26 -0400


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Dear Todd,

Yeah, I wrote some of those e-mails.  As I recall, there was a lengthy =
thread involving the V-berth & the floatation foam underneath.  I don't =
have that e-mail anymore & it doesn't seem to come up on my searches of =
the SailNet Archieves.  What is your question?

I recommended the 2-part pour in place polyurethane foam product.  Look =
on page 56 of the 2002 Defender Marine Buyers Guide.  The product =
provides 4.8 cubic feet foam/gal of premix.  Defender will sell you as =
little as 1 qt (2 pts of Part A & B) or as much as 10 gal (5 gal of Part =
A & B) of premix.  Parts A & B are mixed together for 30 sec until the =
liquid turns milky.  Then, you rapidly pour the mixture into the void =
space to be filled.  The mixture will expand & cure tack free in 1 =
minute, with final cure in 20 minutes.  To fill a large space, small =
batches can be poured right on top of one another.  If a new batch of =
foam is poured on top of an old batch before final cure, then the bond =
between the two batches will be undetectable.

Before tack free cure, the mixture will flow.  So, to do a V-berth, the =
area would need to be sealed off so the liquid would not run down into =
the bilge.

This product is not real toxic, but I would still use a Tyvek suit, =
rubber gloves, eye protection & as much ventillation as I could get =
flowing thru the boat. =20

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Toad the Wet Sprocket=20
  To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 2:14 PM
  Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V-berth flotation


  All,

       Recently I read about someone with a boat about the same year as =
mine (1974) that did not contain, or it had been removed, the foam =
flotation under the v-berth.  I can not remember where I was reading it =
or must have deleted the e-mail without copying it to my files.

       Someone (I think it was Roger) posted a suggestion for expanding =
foam to be used to fill this area.  Can anyone help with a suggestion?



  Todd



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Todd,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yeah, I wrote some of those =
e-mails.&nbsp; As I=20
recall, there was a lengthy thread involving the V-berth &amp; the =
floatation=20
foam underneath.&nbsp; I don't have that e-mail anymore &amp; it doesn't =
seem to=20
come up on my searches of the SailNet Archieves.&nbsp; What is your=20
question?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I recommended the 2-part pour in=20
place&nbsp;polyurethane foam product.&nbsp; Look on page 56 of the 2002 =
Defender=20
Marine Buyers Guide.&nbsp; The product provides 4.8 cubic feet foam/gal =
of=20
premix.&nbsp; Defender will sell you as little as 1 qt (2 pts of Part A =
&amp;=20
B)&nbsp;or as much as 10 gal (5 gal of Part A &amp; B) of premix.&nbsp; =
Parts A=20
&amp; B are mixed together for 30 sec until the liquid turns =
milky.&nbsp; Then,=20
you rapidly pour the mixture into the void space to be =
filled.&nbsp;&nbsp;The=20
mixture will expand &amp; cure tack free in 1 minute, with final cure in =
20=20
minutes.&nbsp; To fill a large space, small batches can be poured right =
on top=20
of one another.&nbsp; If a new batch of foam is poured on top of an old =
batch=20
before final cure, then the bond between the two batches will be=20
undetectable.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Before tack free&nbsp;cure, the mixture =
will=20
flow.&nbsp; So,&nbsp;to do a V-berth, the area would need to be sealed =
off so=20
the liquid would not run down into the bilge.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This product is not real toxic, but I =
would still=20
use a Tyvek suit, rubber gloves, eye protection &amp; as much =
ventillation as I=20
could get flowing thru the boat.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roger Pihlaja</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 07, =
2002 2:14=20
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  flotation</DIV>
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  <P>All,</P>
  <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Recently I read about someone with a boat =
about=20
  the same year as mine (1974) that did not contain, or it had been =
removed, the=20
  foam flotation under the v-berth.&nbsp; I can not remember where I was =
reading=20
  it or must have deleted the e-mail without copying it to my files.</P>
  <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Someone (I think it was Roger) posted a =
suggestion=20
  for expanding foam to be used to fill this area.&nbsp; Can anyone help =
with a=20
  suggestion?</P>
  <P>&nbsp;</P>
  <P>Todd</P></DIV></DIV><BR clear=3Dall>
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