[Rhodes22-list] need some help
Michael Meltzer
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:34:13 -0400
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Re: [Rhodes22-list] need some helpSteve I think this ones answer your =
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This week batch is not posted yet, the town takes any issue as a full =
contact sport.
MJM
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Steve Alm=20
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] need some help
Rummy, Michael,
Barbara Woodhouse would agree with you that there are "No Bad Dogs", =
the very title of one of her books on dog training. Although I MIGHT =
agree with that, the simple fact remains that there are dogs that do =
indeed attack. Example: the story of the dogs in San Francisco that =
killed a woman and the dog owners were charged with murder! They had it =
coming. Dogs get aggressive when they think they're defending food, =
territory, their young or their masters. In these off-leash areas, the =
dogs can easily get confused about what they think they need to defend. =
When people come to my house, they ask if my dog bites. My stock =
answer is, "Sure, ALL dogs bite. It's just a question of why and when." =
There are also a great many people that are simply afraid of dogs and =
of course the dogs sense this, which exacerbates the problem. Often, a =
dog will charge a stranger just to check him/her out. Understandably, =
the bystander gets nervous and BAMMO, there's an incident. We have no =
control over the "bad owners" who can't control their dogs and hence, =
the regulations to protect the innocent. I remember the days when dogs =
were allowed to roam the neighborhood at their whim and often got run =
over by cars or shot by a protective homeowner. That isn't a good way =
to go either. =20
My solution is to have a fenced in yard where Major can run full tilt =
around the house and yard and I also take him hunting when I can so he =
can do what he's born to do. That's the key. If you can allow him to =
do what comes naturally, he'll respond with a great appreciation and =
learn the difference between his domestic roll and his natural calling. =
Major has never bit anyone...yet, and he's ten years old. He's a Lab, =
which is a breed least likely to bite, but I've also had Shepherds, who =
are extremely people-aggressive. Letting a Shepherd, Doberman, =
Rotwhiler, Pit Bull, Boxer, etc. off the leash is asking for problems. =
We may have nice, mellow dogs-and Roony looks like a sweetheart, but not =
every one has a dog like this.
Todd asked the question, "What would motivate the Westport RTM to =
legislate your wholesome family activities into criminality?" Good =
question and I think I know the answer: too many people complaining. I =
can't blame them.
Slim and Major
On 9/11/02 7:38 AM, "R22RumRunner@aol.com" <R22RumRunner@aol.com> =
wrote:
Michael,
Dog owners usually fit into one of two categories; responsible and =
not responsible.
I think people, whether they own pets or not, should be able to go =
outside, on public land without having fear of being attacked by an =
unleashed/unsupervised animal. I also like to have areas where I can let =
my dog just run, but they are becoming harder to find. The good of the =
many outweighs the needs of a few. (Who said that anyway?)
Dog attacks are a real problem everywhere. There are no bad dogs, =
just bad owners.
Sounds like a reasonable solution has been reached.
Rummy=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This week batch is not posted yet, the =
town takes=20
any issue as a full contact sport.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MJM</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dsalm@mn.rr.com href=3D"mailto:salm@mn.rr.com">Steve Alm</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 12, =
2002 4:40=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] =
need some=20
help</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Rummy, Michael,<BR><BR>Barbara =
Woodhouse=20
would agree with you that there are =93No Bad Dogs=94, the very title =
of one of=20
her books on dog training. Although I MIGHT agree with that, the =
simple=20
fact remains that there are dogs that do indeed attack. Example: =
the=20
story of the dogs in San Francisco that killed a woman and the dog =
owners were=20
charged with murder! They had it coming. Dogs get =
aggressive when=20
they think they=92re defending food, territory, their young or their =
masters.=20
In these off-leash areas, the dogs can easily get confused about =
what=20
they think they need to defend. <BR><BR>When people come to my =
house,=20
they ask if my dog bites. My stock answer is, =93Sure, ALL dogs =
bite.=20
It=92s just a question of why and when.=94 There are also =
a great many=20
people that are simply afraid of dogs and of course the dogs sense =
this, which=20
exacerbates the problem. Often, a dog will charge a stranger =
just to=20
check him/her out. Understandably, the bystander gets nervous =
and BAMMO,=20
there=92s an incident. We have no control over the =93bad =
owners=94 who=20
can=92t control their dogs and hence, the regulations to protect the =
innocent.=20
I remember the days when dogs were allowed to roam the=20
neighborhood at their whim and often got run over by cars or shot by a =
protective homeowner. That isn=92t a good way to go either.=20
<BR><BR>My solution is to have a fenced in yard where Major can =
run full=20
tilt around the house and yard and I also take him hunting when I can =
so he=20
can do what he=92s born to do. That=92s the key. If you =
can allow him=20
to do what comes naturally, he=92ll respond with a great appreciation =
and learn=20
the difference between his domestic roll and his natural calling. =
Major=20
has never bit anyone...yet, and he=92s ten years old. He=92s a =
Lab, which is=20
a breed least likely to bite, but I=92ve also had Shepherds, who are =
extremely=20
people-aggressive. Letting a Shepherd, Doberman, Rotwhiler, Pit =
Bull,=20
Boxer, etc. off the leash is asking for problems. We may have =
nice,=20
mellow dogs=97and Roony looks like a sweetheart, but not every one has =
a dog=20
like this.<BR><BR>Todd asked the question, =93What would motivate the =
Westport=20
RTM to legislate your wholesome family activities into criminality?=94 =
Good question and I think I know the answer: too many =
people=20
complaining. I can=92t blame them.<BR><BR>Slim and =
Major<BR><BR>On 9/11/02=20
7:38 AM, "R22RumRunner@aol.com" <R22RumRunner@aol.com>=20
wrote:<BR><BR></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>Michael,<BR>Dog owners =
usually fit=20
into one of two categories; responsible and not responsible.<BR>I =
think=20
people, whether they own pets or not, should be able to go outside, =
on=20
public land without having fear of being attacked by an=20
unleashed/unsupervised animal. I also like to have areas where I can =
let my=20
dog just run, but they are becoming harder to find. The good of the =
many=20
outweighs the needs of a few. (Who said that anyway?)<BR>Dog attacks =
are a=20
real problem everywhere. There are no bad dogs, just bad =
owners.<BR>Sounds=20
like a reasonable solution has been =
reached.<BR><BR>Rummy</FONT></FONT><FONT=20
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