[Rhodes22-list] need some help
Steve Alm
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Fri, 13 Sep 2002 16:09:18 -0500
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Michael,
Now I get it. Selectman Carl Leaman and Mark Smith are obviously cat
lovers.
On 9/12/02 11:34 AM, "Michael Meltzer" <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com> wrote:
> Steve I think this ones answer your question:
> http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E767755,00.ht=
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> http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E792717,00.ht=
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> <http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%7E4435%7E792717,00.html>
> =20
> =20
> some other backround
> http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E775333,00.ht=
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> http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E775342,00.ht=
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> http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E775345,00.ht=
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> http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E780713,00.ht=
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> http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E792714,00.ht=
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> http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E843112,00.ht=
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> http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E804476,00.ht=
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> http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E825002,00.ht=
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> http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E829772,00.ht=
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> http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E843112,00.ht=
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> =20
> This week batch is not posted yet, the town takes any issue as a full con=
tact
> sport.
> MJM
> =20
> =20
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Steve Alm <mailto:salm@mn.rr.com>
>> To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 4:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] need some help
>>=20
>> Rummy, Michael,
>>=20
>> Barbara Woodhouse would agree with you that there are =93No Bad Dogs=94, the=
very
>> title of one of her books on dog training. Although I MIGHT agree with =
that,
>> the simple fact remains that there are dogs that do indeed attack. Exam=
ple:
>> the story of the dogs in San Francisco that killed a woman and the dog o=
wners
>> were charged with murder! They had it coming. Dogs get aggressive when=
they
>> think they=92re defending food, territory, their young or their masters. =
In
>> these off-leash areas, the dogs can easily get confused about what they =
think
>> they need to defend.
>>=20
>> When people come to my house, they ask if my dog bites. My stock answer=
is,
>> =93Sure, ALL dogs bite. It=92s just a question of why and when.=94 There are=
also
>> a great many people that are simply afraid of dogs and of course the dog=
s
>> sense this, which exacerbates the problem. Often, a dog will charge a
>> stranger just to check him/her out. Understandably, the bystander gets
>> nervous and BAMMO, there=92s an incident. We have no control over the =93b=
ad
>> owners=94 who can=92t control their dogs and hence, the regulations to prote=
ct
>> the innocent. I remember the days when dogs were allowed to roam the
>> neighborhood at their whim and often got run over by cars or shot by a
>> protective homeowner. That isn=92t a good way to go either.
>>=20
>> My solution is to have a fenced in yard where Major can run full tilt ar=
ound
>> the house and yard and I also take him hunting when I can so he can do w=
hat
>> he=92s born to do. That=92s the key. If you can allow him to do what comes
>> naturally, he=92ll respond with a great appreciation and learn the differe=
nce
>> between his domestic roll and his natural calling. Major has never bit
>> anyone...yet, and he=92s ten years old. He=92s a Lab, which is a breed leas=
t
>> likely to bite, but I=92ve also had Shepherds, who are extremely
>> people-aggressive. Letting a Shepherd, Doberman, Rotwhiler, Pit Bull, B=
oxer,
>> etc. off the leash is asking for problems. We may have nice, mellow dog=
s=97and
>> Roony looks like a sweetheart, but not every one has a dog like this.
>>=20
>> Todd asked the question, =93What would motivate the Westport RTM to legisl=
ate
>> your wholesome family activities into criminality?=94 Good question and I
>> think I know the answer: too many people complaining. I can=92t blame th=
em.
>>=20
>> Slim and Major
>>=20
>> On 9/11/02 7:38 AM, "R22RumRunner@aol.com" <R22RumRunner@aol.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Michael,
>>> Dog owners usually fit into one of two categories; responsible and not
>>> responsible.
>>> I think people, whether they own pets or not, should be able to go outs=
ide,
>>> on public land without having fear of being attacked by an
>>> unleashed/unsupervised animal. I also like to have areas where I can le=
t my
>>> dog just run, but they are becoming harder to find. The good of the man=
y
>>> outweighs the needs of a few. (Who said that anyway?)
>>> Dog attacks are a real problem everywhere. There are no bad dogs, just =
bad
>>> owners.
>>> Sounds like a reasonable solution has been reached.
>>>=20
>>> Rummy=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
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<FONT FACE=3D"Verdana">Michael,<BR>
Now I get it. <FONT SIZE=3D"2">Selectman Carl Leaman and Mark Smith are=
obviously cat lovers.<BR>
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On 9/12/02 11:34 AM, "Michael Meltzer" <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com=
> wrote:<BR>
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</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Steve I think this one=
s answer your question:<BR>
http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E767755,00.html=
<BR>
http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E792717,00.html=
<http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%7E4435%7E792717,00.html=
> <BR>
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</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">some other backround<BR>
http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E775333,00.html=
<BR>
http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E775342,00.html=
<BR>
http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E775345,00.html=
<BR>
http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E780713,00.html=
<BR>
http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E792714,00.html=
<BR>
http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E843112,00.html=
<BR>
http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E804476,00.html=
<BR>
http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E825002,00.html=
<BR>
http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E829772,00.html=
<BR>
http://www.westport-news.com/Stories/0,1413,100%257E4435%257E843112,00.html=
<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"> <BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">This week batch is not posted yet,=
the town takes any issue as a full contact sport.<BR>
MJM<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"> <BR>
<BR>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>
</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"><B>From:</B> Steve Alm <mailto:s=
alm@mn.rr.com> <BR>
<B>To:</B> rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org <BR>
<B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 12, 2002 4:40 AM<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] need some help<BR>
<BR>
Rummy, Michael,<BR>
<BR>
Barbara Woodhouse would agree with you that there are =93No Bad Dogs=94, the ve=
ry title of one of her books on dog training. Although I MIGHT agree w=
ith that, the simple fact remains that there are dogs that do indeed attack.=
Example: the story of the dogs in San Francisco that killed a woman a=
nd the dog owners were charged with murder! They had it coming. =
Dogs get aggressive when they think they=92re defending food, territory, their=
young or their masters. In these off-leash areas, the dogs can easily=
get confused about what they think they need to defend. <BR>
<BR>
When people come to my house, they ask if my dog bites. My stock answ=
er is, =93Sure, ALL dogs bite. It=92s just a question of why and when.=94 &n=
bsp;There are also a great many people that are simply afraid of dogs and of=
course the dogs sense this, which exacerbates the problem. Often, a d=
og will charge a stranger just to check him/her out. Understandably, t=
he bystander gets nervous and BAMMO, there=92s an incident. We hav=
e no control over the =93bad owners=94 who can=92t control their dogs and hence, t=
he regulations to protect the innocent. I remember the days when=
dogs were allowed to roam the neighborhood at their whim and often got run =
over by cars or shot by a protective homeowner. That isn=92t a good way =
to go either. <BR>
<BR>
My solution is to have a fenced in yard where Major can run full tilt aroun=
d the house and yard and I also take him hunting when I can so he can do wha=
t he=92s born to do. That=92s the key. If you can allow him to do wh=
at comes naturally, he=92ll respond with a great appreciation and learn the di=
fference between his domestic roll and his natural calling. Major has =
never bit anyone...yet, and he=92s ten years old. He=92s a Lab, which is a=
breed least likely to bite, but I=92ve also had Shepherds, who are extremely =
people-aggressive. Letting a Shepherd, Doberman, Rotwhiler, Pit Bull, =
Boxer, etc. off the leash is asking for problems. We may have nice, me=
llow dogs=97and Roony looks like a sweetheart, but not every one has a dog lik=
e this.<BR>
<BR>
Todd asked the question, =93What would motivate the Westport RTM to legislate=
your wholesome family activities into criminality?=94 Good question and=
I think I know the answer: too many people complaining. I can=92t=
blame them.<BR>
<BR>
Slim and Major<BR>
<BR>
On 9/11/02 7:38 AM, "R22RumRunner@aol.com" <R22RumRunner@aol.c=
om> wrote:<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Michael,<BR>
Dog owners usually fit into one of two categories; responsible and not resp=
onsible.<BR>
I think people, whether they own pets or not, should be able to go outside,=
on public land without having fear of being attacked by an unleashed/unsupe=
rvised animal. I also like to have areas where I can let my dog just run, bu=
t they are becoming harder to find. The good of the many outweighs the needs=
of a few. (Who said that anyway?)<BR>
Dog attacks are a real problem everywhere. There are no bad dogs, just bad =
owners.<BR>
Sounds like a reasonable solution has been reached.<BR>
<BR>
Rummy</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"> <BR>
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