[Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer

[David Walker]

I've stayed out of this discussion because I do not trailer very often
anymore, but I have one comment.  After 2 years of launching and retrieving
and the last two of having the boat loaded on the trailer with a travel
lift, I'm convinced that the position of the hull on the trailer is mainly
dictated by the bunks.  No matter what I did with the bowstop or winch cable
when loading, the hull settled in the exact same place when it came out of
the water.  In fact, if it was forward and the cable was tight, trying to
keep it there, the cable would break when the hull settled.  Even when
loaded by a crane, it ended up in the same place.  The crane operators said
that was where it "fit".

I've never had enough tongue weight to trailer above 50 mph without
fishtailing.  And thats without the motor on the stern.

Dave Walker
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ware, Joseph W." <joseph_ware at merck.com>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer


> Moving the bow support forward will get it out of the way while loading
and
> un-loading.  Bow eye catches the stop when fully retracted.  The actual
boat
> will only move forward 6-8 inches.  I'll need to experiment with tongue
> weight to make that a fixed dimension.  Once loaded, the stop will be
moved
> back into position lightly touching the bow itself.
>
> Do I remember Stan telling us once that the bow stop should not touch the
> bow when trailering?  If so, what is it's purpose?
>
> Joe
> S/V Whisper
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Tavares [mailto:sprocket80 at mail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:37 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
>
>
> Joe,
>
>     That sounds like the easy fix at first glance. But I remember someone
> writing (maybe it was Stan?) that the bunk uprights are positioned at
> specific points under the hull.?
>
> Todd
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ware, Joseph W." <joseph_ware at merck.com>
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:16:38 -0400
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
>
> > Steve, I had asked the same question a while ago.  Someone at the time
had
> > suggested cutting the bow stop off, it's welded on, and moving it
forward
> a
> > foot.  They had done this and it worked.  I'm having it done as we
speak.
> > I'll let you know how it works out.  Cost about $30.
> >
> > Joe
> > S/V Whisper
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Alm [mailto:salm at mn.rr.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:58 AM
> > To: Rhodes
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> >
> >
> > Hi.  Mary Ann and I just got back from a four day trip with Fandango.
We
> > went up north to Leech Lake in north central MN.  The sailing and living
> > aboard were great (I'd love to tell you more about it sometime) but
after
> > putting the boat in and out several times in several locations with
> varying
> > degrees of steepness at the ramps, I've concluded that something is
> > definitely wrong here.
> >
> > No matter what, I just can't get the boat far enough forward on the
> trailer.
> > The result is not enough tongue weight.  I had to take the motor off and
> > lash it on the trailer tongue, put the rudder up in the V berth, along
> with
> > anything else that has any weight to it.  I used my bathroom scale to
try
> to
> > find out how heavy the tongue really is:  the scale only goes up to 300
> lbs.
> > and I pegged the thing before the tongue even budged off the hitch--so
> I'll
> > bet I have at least 400 lbs, maybe more.  Still, the trailer fishtailed
at
> > anything over 55 mph and also lurched and tugged most of the way.  I use
a
> > 3/4 ton full-size cargo van with a V-8--more than enough.
> >
> > At one of the ramps that had a very gradual slope, I backed in so far
that
> > my tailpipe was almost under.  Using the tongue extension, the forward
> ends
> > of the bunks were just at water level and I drove the boat hard at the
> > trailer, trying to get up on the damn things, but still no luck.
> >
> > And at the steep ramps it's even worse.  As we've discussed before, you
> pull
> > the boat all the way up to the bow stop, but when you pull the trailer
out
> > of the water, the bow rocks back away from the bow stop, and leaves the
> boat
> > too far back--actually NEGATIVE TONGUE WEIGHT!
> >
> > I really don't want to move the motor, rudder, etc. not to mention all
the
> > landing gymnastics every time I trailer.  Is it just me or is it a
design
> > flaw.  The trailer axle should be about 6-8 inches back or something.
Can
> > anyone offer some insight, please?  Pretty please?
> >
> > Slim
> >
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