[Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer

[Peter Thorn]

Dave,

What kind of trailer do you have?  What year?

Thanks

PT

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Walker" <david.walker5 at comcast.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer


> I've stayed out of this discussion because I do not trailer very often
> anymore, but I have one comment.  After 2 years of launching and
retrieving
> and the last two of having the boat loaded on the trailer with a travel
> lift, I'm convinced that the position of the hull on the trailer is mainly
> dictated by the bunks.  No matter what I did with the bowstop or winch
cable
> when loading, the hull settled in the exact same place when it came out of
> the water.  In fact, if it was forward and the cable was tight, trying to
> keep it there, the cable would break when the hull settled.  Even when
> loaded by a crane, it ended up in the same place.  The crane operators
said
> that was where it "fit".
>
> I've never had enough tongue weight to trailer above 50 mph without
> fishtailing.  And thats without the motor on the stern.
>
> Dave Walker
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ware, Joseph W." <joseph_ware at merck.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:03 PM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
>
>
> > Moving the bow support forward will get it out of the way while loading
> and
> > un-loading.  Bow eye catches the stop when fully retracted.  The actual
> boat
> > will only move forward 6-8 inches.  I'll need to experiment with tongue
> > weight to make that a fixed dimension.  Once loaded, the stop will be
> moved
> > back into position lightly touching the bow itself.
> >
> > Do I remember Stan telling us once that the bow stop should not touch
the
> > bow when trailering?  If so, what is it's purpose?
> >
> > Joe
> > S/V Whisper
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Todd Tavares [mailto:sprocket80 at mail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:37 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> >
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> >     That sounds like the easy fix at first glance. But I remember
someone
> > writing (maybe it was Stan?) that the bunk uprights are positioned at
> > specific points under the hull.?
> >
> > Todd
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ware, Joseph W." <joseph_ware at merck.com>
> > Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:16:38 -0400
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> >
> > > Steve, I had asked the same question a while ago.  Someone at the time
> had
> > > suggested cutting the bow stop off, it's welded on, and moving it
> forward
> > a
> > > foot.  They had done this and it worked.  I'm having it done as we
> speak.
> > > I'll let you know how it works out.  Cost about $30.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > > S/V Whisper
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steve Alm [mailto:salm at mn.rr.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:58 AM
> > > To: Rhodes
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi.  Mary Ann and I just got back from a four day trip with Fandango.
> We
> > > went up north to Leech Lake in north central MN.  The sailing and
living
> > > aboard were great (I'd love to tell you more about it sometime) but
> after
> > > putting the boat in and out several times in several locations with
> > varying
> > > degrees of steepness at the ramps, I've concluded that something is
> > > definitely wrong here.
> > >
> > > No matter what, I just can't get the boat far enough forward on the
> > trailer.
> > > The result is not enough tongue weight.  I had to take the motor off
and
> > > lash it on the trailer tongue, put the rudder up in the V berth, along
> > with
> > > anything else that has any weight to it.  I used my bathroom scale to
> try
> > to
> > > find out how heavy the tongue really is:  the scale only goes up to
300
> > lbs.
> > > and I pegged the thing before the tongue even budged off the hitch--so
> > I'll
> > > bet I have at least 400 lbs, maybe more.  Still, the trailer
fishtailed
> at
> > > anything over 55 mph and also lurched and tugged most of the way.  I
use
> a
> > > 3/4 ton full-size cargo van with a V-8--more than enough.
> > >
> > > At one of the ramps that had a very gradual slope, I backed in so far
> that
> > > my tailpipe was almost under.  Using the tongue extension, the forward
> > ends
> > > of the bunks were just at water level and I drove the boat hard at the
> > > trailer, trying to get up on the damn things, but still no luck.
> > >
> > > And at the steep ramps it's even worse.  As we've discussed before,
you
> > pull
> > > the boat all the way up to the bow stop, but when you pull the trailer
> out
> > > of the water, the bow rocks back away from the bow stop, and leaves
the
> > boat
> > > too far back--actually NEGATIVE TONGUE WEIGHT!
> > >
> > > I really don't want to move the motor, rudder, etc. not to mention all
> the
> > > landing gymnastics every time I trailer.  Is it just me or is it a
> design
> > > flaw.  The trailer axle should be about 6-8 inches back or something.
> Can
> > > anyone offer some insight, please?  Pretty please?
> > >
> > > Slim
> > >
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