[Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer

Wed Aug 13 18:46:25 EDT 2003

Joe,
Interesting discussion, especially the message that says that the bunks will 
dictate where the boat will sit on the trailer.  That makes sense, but it 
was not my experience.  I have a '95 Triad (it looks a lot older), and when 
I had the bow stop moved forward a foot and re-welded, the boat did sit 
further forward on the trailer.  The way it is supposed to work, according 
to Elton, is that you tighten the boat up against the bow stop with the 
winch, and then when you pull the boat out of the water it will move away 
from the bow stop about six inches.  Then you can loosen the winch and 
retighten it, but not too much.  You are supposed to trailer it with the bow 
stop away from the boat because the boat moves up and down going over bumps 
and the bow stop will mark up the bow of the boat and ruin your paint job 
and gelcoat.  That is exactly how it works with my boat.  One time I did not 
tighten the winch enough before I pulled it out of the water and the boat 
settled further away from the bow stop - about 9 inches.  It fishtailed like 
crazy as a result until I redistributed more weight.

When you pull the boat up on the trailer, the bow eye should be above the 
bow stop - if it isn't you should move the trailer further (deeper) into the 
water.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents.  I just wish I could sail as well as I can 
trailer...
Bob K
Yankee Clipper

>From: "Ware, Joseph W." <joseph_ware at merck.com>
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>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
>Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:03:39 -0400
>
>Moving the bow support forward will get it out of the way while loading and
>un-loading.  Bow eye catches the stop when fully retracted.  The actual 
>boat
>will only move forward 6-8 inches.  I'll need to experiment with tongue
>weight to make that a fixed dimension.  Once loaded, the stop will be moved
>back into position lightly touching the bow itself.
>
>Do I remember Stan telling us once that the bow stop should not touch the
>bow when trailering?  If so, what is it's purpose?
>
>Joe
>S/V Whisper
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Todd Tavares [mailto:sprocket80 at mail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:37 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
>
>
>Joe,
>
>     That sounds like the easy fix at first glance. But I remember someone
>writing (maybe it was Stan?) that the bunk uprights are positioned at
>specific points under the hull.?
>
>Todd
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ware, Joseph W." <joseph_ware at merck.com>
>Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:16:38 -0400
>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
>
> > Steve, I had asked the same question a while ago.  Someone at the time 
>had
> > suggested cutting the bow stop off, it's welded on, and moving it 
>forward
>a
> > foot.  They had done this and it worked.  I'm having it done as we 
>speak.
> > I'll let you know how it works out.  Cost about $30.
> >
> > Joe
> > S/V Whisper
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Alm [mailto:salm at mn.rr.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:58 AM
> > To: Rhodes
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> >
> >
> > Hi.  Mary Ann and I just got back from a four day trip with Fandango.  
>We
> > went up north to Leech Lake in north central MN.  The sailing and living
> > aboard were great (I'd love to tell you more about it sometime) but 
>after
> > putting the boat in and out several times in several locations with
>varying
> > degrees of steepness at the ramps, I've concluded that something is
> > definitely wrong here.
> >
> > No matter what, I just can't get the boat far enough forward on the
>trailer.
> > The result is not enough tongue weight.  I had to take the motor off and
> > lash it on the trailer tongue, put the rudder up in the V berth, along
>with
> > anything else that has any weight to it.  I used my bathroom scale to 
>try
>to
> > find out how heavy the tongue really is:  the scale only goes up to 300
>lbs.
> > and I pegged the thing before the tongue even budged off the hitch--so
>I'll
> > bet I have at least 400 lbs, maybe more.  Still, the trailer fishtailed 
>at
> > anything over 55 mph and also lurched and tugged most of the way.  I use 
>a
> > 3/4 ton full-size cargo van with a V-8--more than enough.
> >
> > At one of the ramps that had a very gradual slope, I backed in so far 
>that
> > my tailpipe was almost under.  Using the tongue extension, the forward
>ends
> > of the bunks were just at water level and I drove the boat hard at the
> > trailer, trying to get up on the damn things, but still no luck.
> >
> > And at the steep ramps it's even worse.  As we've discussed before, you
>pull
> > the boat all the way up to the bow stop, but when you pull the trailer 
>out
> > of the water, the bow rocks back away from the bow stop, and leaves the
>boat
> > too far back--actually NEGATIVE TONGUE WEIGHT!
> >
> > I really don't want to move the motor, rudder, etc. not to mention all 
>the
> > landing gymnastics every time I trailer.  Is it just me or is it a 
>design
> > flaw.  The trailer axle should be about 6-8 inches back or something.  
>Can
> > anyone offer some insight, please?  Pretty please?
> >
> > Slim
> >
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