[ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics on the list. my .01

Wed Dec 3 21:48:36 EST 2003

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <FredkLange at aol.com>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics on the list. my .01

> Steve,
>
> The point is, there would be more than 100 members if people were not turned
> away by having their politics, gender, race, religion, etc., disparaged.

That was not steve point, thier where about 100 members at the time, right now we are around 190 which is a high
>
> Rik,
>
> I'm amazed you would join a list about something you find boring.  If you
> want to discuss other things, join other lists.

again not his point, he is a former rhodes22 owner who fines it interesting here, and wants to stay around his friends.

>
> Bill,
>
> You offer hope that we can improve the charter democratically.  How should we
> go about it?

again not his point, bill remembers and pointing out that the charter was adopted by the group. The vote was to end debates like
this, democratically thier is not a ground swell of suport here, in fact the very opposite. Like it has been said before, create
your own group. On the other hand I am a consulant other wise know as a whore, for 200$ regestation fee payable in advance, cc,
paypal, cash or check) lets hold an elelection. before you wine about the money is standard pratice to charge fees in most states to
stop abuse, not to mention your a PITA.  Also I spend more that that on the list each year to back my postion along with a fair
amount of time. What is this really worth to you. put up or shutup. Better yet answer some boating question and try to help people
out

>
> Todd,
>
> I'm not trying to discredit MJM's contribution, just trying to improve it--no
> more bad jokes or misspelled words.

and give me a cheap shot at the same time.
>
> Fred
>
> In a message dated 12/2/03 11:46:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> rhodes2282 at yahoo.com writes:
>
> > Good one, Rik:-)  Hope you had a good Thanksgiving.
> > Your right on the money here.  Beside, I have gotten
> > use to hearing Roger scouting trip, Rummy-I talked to
> > him about everything &Michael &I have been toushing
> > cannon balls back &forth since the beginning of this
> > list.  I remember when the list first got started;
> > there were only a handful of us on the list.  It sure
> > was boring till it finally built up to around 100
> > members.  Now we have a little community.  The list is
> > good the way we have it.  And like you said, if
> > someone has a question; someone will come up with the
> > answer.  Believe me; we have talked about it all!!!!
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > --- Rik Sandberg <sanderico at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >To all on the list,
> > >
> > >The thing I find most interesting about these on/off
> > >topic discussions is:
> > >Those that are constantly complaining about the
> > >topic, very rarely post a
> > >boating question. If we all sat around waiting for
> > >most of these folks to say
> > >something, there would be nothing here but
> > >emptiness. AND no point in coming
> > >here.
> > >
> > >So, all you "topic police", if you want someone to
> > >be here to answer your
> > >questions when you finally come up with one, you
> > >might consider not asking
> > >that all the veteran owner/sailors be bored to tears
> > >while they wait. If you
> > >are going to insist on the boredom, soon there will
> > >be no one here to help
> > >you.
> > >
> > >If you have a boating question, then post it.
> > >Everyone here is more than
> > >happy to talk about boats and will help however they
> > >can if someone will just
> > >post the question. But, it seems you very rarely
> > >hear from the "topic police"
> > >except when they decide it's time to bitch about the
> > >topics. Then it seems
> > >they have lots to say. I wonder, are topic
> > >discussions considered "boat
> > >related"???
> > >
> > >Rik
> > >
> > >On 12/01/2003 01:17 pm, you wrote:
> > >>Todd,
> > >>
> > >>While agreeing with much of what you had to say,
> > >you should be aware that
> > >>when the charter was adopted it was done extremely
> > >democratically.  There
> > >>were probably 100+ of us on the list at the time,
> > >and we worked quite hard
> > >>on the charter.  Michael did not impose it, and
> > >has accepted every
> > >>modification.
> > >>
> > >>Fred,
> > >>
> > >>While agreeing with much of what you had to say,
> > >and having taken a similar
> > >>position in the past, I think it has become
> > >obvious over time that the only
> > >>way to hold the attention of the experienced list
> > >members who provide most
> > >>of the answers is to allow them to chat off-topic.
> > >>
> > >>Bill Effros
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: Todd Tavares
> > >>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > >>Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:53 PM
> > >>Subject: Re: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics on
> > >the list. my .01
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Fred,
> > >>
> > >>   I am probably way out of my place here, but
> > >being on the receiving end
> > >>of MJM's wrath, all the while ignorant of the
> > >content and make up of this
> > >>list here;  This is basically Michael's list (and
> > >others).  We exist here
> > >>because of the time, patience, energy, and money
> > >Micheal (and a few
> > >>others?)spend to administrate this list-serv.
> > >>
> > >>  Michael has a life and a family, and probably
> > >much more imortant things
> > >>to do with his time.  He choses to run this list
> > >server for his and all of
> > >>our pleasure and enjoyment.  Michael has given me
> > >the "take you computer
> > >>and go down the road speech" before; and that's
> > >putting it mildly.  While
> > >>this list does have a charter, it is still the
> > >creation of MJM and not a
> > >>democracy.  If MJM has the stomach to put up with
> > >my nonsense, then he (and
> > >>all here) have the patience of saints.
> > >>
> > >>  So as far as the procedures for adopting,
> > >recalling and amending the
> > >>charter?  I don't thinks Robert's Rules apply
> > >here, but i may be wrong :-)
> > >>
> > >>Thanks All,
> > >>
> > >>Todd
> > >>  Not a sermon.....just a thought.
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