[Rhodes22-list] My First Car

Steve rhodes2282 at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 4 07:37:01 EST 2003 

 Bill
I haven't seen one of those in years.  Great pic.
Steve

PS - How was that Hearse for picking up women:-) Bet
they were DIEING to get with you:-)

--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> It must be winter.  This thread comes up every
> winter.
> 
> For the record, my first car was the original SUV --
> a 1950 Cadillac Hearse with a La Salle standard
> transmission and no synchronizer in second gear into
> which I dropped a 1953 Cadillac engine with a Weber
> 4-barrel carburetor, making it the fastest 23 foot
> long 7200 pound vehicle on the road in it's day.
> 
> Rummy -- last year when this thread came up, or was
> it 2 or 3 years ago, I also mentioned the 1973
> Citroen-Maserati that was and still is molding away
> in my garage.  You asked me to send a picture, which
> I never did.  Sorry.  Here it is:
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Steve 
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list 
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Corvair
> 
> 
> That to bad, Roger.  Sounds like you had a lemon,
> for
> sure.  Never heard mom talk about the stuff below.  
> 
> My first car was a black 1974 monti carlo, velet
> sceval bucket seats.  Mam that car was fast, it only
> register 150 but I could bring it all the way around
> back up to around 10.  It was one of those car that
> was low in the back.  Simlar to the pontic gram pric
> which was also low in the back.  I was the first one
> in Corning to put the small glass pack on it.  It
> could rattle windows when I flew by someone house. 
> Talk about every cop in the country knowing my
> name:-)
> Steve
> 
> 
> --- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net> wrote:
> > Peter, Steve,
> > 
> > I had a 66 Corvair Corsa with a 4-speed for a
> while
> > when I was in college.
> > I couldn't keep the 4 carbs in sync, the
> serpentine
> > fan belt was always
> > coming off at high speed,  the thermostatic
> bellows
> > that controlled the air
> > dampers on the engine temperature regulation
> system
> > was always failing, and
> > there was a slight oil leak that caused the
> > defroster to fill the car with
> > at least a hot oil smell & sometimes oil smoke. 
> > Yeah, when the car ran, it
> > was had a lot of scoot & it handled great.  But,
> in
> > terms of relibility, it
> > wasn't ready for prime time.  My relibility
> problems
> > weren't unique, they
> > were typical of most owners of the Corvair.  Even
> by
> > the standards of mid
> > 1960's American car relibility, the Corvair was
> > poor.  When you add in the
> > rollover problems of the 1960 - 1964 models
> because
> > of the swing arm rear
> > suspension, the Corvair is a classic example of GM
> > releasing new technology
> > on the public before the technology is ready.  GM
> > tried to do too many new
> > (at least for them) things in one car, skimped too
> > much on cost (that's
> > where the swing axles came from), and probably
> > didn't do anywhere near
> > enough reliability testing prior to releasing the
> > car.
> > 
> > Roger
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 5:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Corvair
> > 
> > 
> > > Peter
> > > Yeah, mom really liked that car.  She still
> talks
> > > about it.
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Peter Thorn <pthorn at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > Steve,
> > > >
> > > > I had a '64 Corvair Spyder with 4 speed
> manual;
> > it
> > > > was great fun!  Your Mom
> > > > is right - it was quick off the line.  Never
> got
> > > > stuck in the Vermont snow
> > > > drifts, even without snow tires.  Too bad
> Nader
> > > > killed it.
> > > >
> > > > PT
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:12 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Corny energy
> source
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Roger
> > > > > My mom had a Corvair.  She said that was a
> > great
> > > > car.
> > > > > >From stop light to stop light, she said she
> > could
> > > > beat
> > > > > my dad in his 57 chevy.  But if they made
> the
> > > > first
> > > > > stop light, he pulled away good. 
> Appearently,
> > the
> > > > > Corvair had a fast start to it.
> > > > > Steve
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > Rummy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I saw GM's hydrogen powered concept car at
> > the
> > > > 2003
> > > > > > NAIAS.  It was also at
> > > > > > the 2002 NAIAS, although not as fully
> > developed.
> > > > > > So, you're right, GM is
> > > > > > moving forward with the project.  It's a
> > neat
> > > > > > concept with a lot of very
> > > > > > creative ideas.  But, until the hydrogen
> > > > > > infrastructure is in place, the
> > > > > > market will be very small.  At the moment,
> > the
> > > > > > hydrogen would have to come
> > > > > > from, are you ready ... natural gas!  Boy,
> > now
> > > > > > there's a great use for a
> > > > > > scarce unrenewable natural resource.  I
> > haven't
> > > > seen
> > > > > > any crash test data on
> > > > > > the prototype or any long term reliability
> > data
> > > > on
> > > > > > the fuel cells.  GM has a
> > > > > > long & undistinguished history of
> releasing
> > new
> > > > > > technology onto the public
> > > > > > before it's ready & then having a big mess
> > on
> > > > their
> > > > > > hands - the Corvair, the
> > > > > > Vega, the in-line SOHC Pontiac 6 engine,
> > etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Roger
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80 at mail.com>
> > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:22 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Corny energy
> > source
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > OH THE HUMANITY!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 06:00:47 EST
> > > > > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Corny
> energy
> > > > source
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Roger,
> > > > > > > > At last years Detroit auto show, GM
> > unveiled
> > > > > > it's new vehicle platform
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > is hydrogen based. The platform
> includes
> > > > > > steering and propulsion and is
> > > > > > > > approximately 8 inches high the entire
> > > > length.
> > > > > > The body is fitted to the
> > > > > > platform
> > > > > > > > and all connections, including joy
> stick
> > > > > > steering are made through one
> > > > > > > > electrical connection. When presented
> at
> > the
> > > > > > show, the oil industry
> > > > > > spokes people said
> > > > > > > > they weren't interested, but GM is
> going
> > > > full
> > > > > > speed forward with this
> > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > This is no longer conceptual, it is
> > already
> > > > > > here. They put safety first
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > hired some of the best people
> available
> > for
> > > > this
> > > > > > project. I read an
> > > > > > extensive
> > > > > > > > article a while back in one of the
> > > > International
> > > > > > trade magazines I
> > > > > > get.....very
> > > > > > > > cool project.
> > > > > > > > The cost for the new vehicle is
> reported
> > to
> > > > be
> > > > > > somewhere around a mid
> > > > > > size
> > > > > > > > luxury car, say around $20,000 fully
> > > > equipped.
> > > > > > Bodies can be changed
> > > > > > easily in a
> > > > > > > > home garage. Mom can have a station
> > wagon
> > > > during
> > > > > > the week and the kids
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > have a sports car on the weekends.
> > > > > > > > The byproduct of burning hydrogen is
> > water.
> > > > > > Water is the only emission.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rummy
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
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