[Rhodes22-list] My First Car

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Thu Dec 4 11:43:56 EST 2003 

Steve,

I'm not sure you want to know this, as I am probably around your mother's age...I had a mattress in back.  I bought the hearse from a funeral home, and it still had the little velvet curtains.  The pillar lights worked.  We found that if we closed the curtains, and turned on the pillar lights, no one ever bothered us.

On the down side, my father didn't let me park my car in the driveway.  Whenever I did, we started getting condolence calls, and that unnerved him.  I had to leave it on a friend's farm when I was in town.  I took it to college and made a lot of money transporting bicycles, large trunks, and other big stuff to and from school.  I made more than the car cost.

It was a lot of fun.  There were a lot of stories attached to that vehicle.

Bill


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Steve 
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] My First Car


Bill
I haven't seen one of those in years.  Great pic.
Steve

PS - How was that Hearse for picking up women:-) Bet
they were DIEING to get with you:-)

--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> It must be winter.  This thread comes up every
> winter.
> 
> For the record, my first car was the original SUV --
> a 1950 Cadillac Hearse with a La Salle standard
> transmission and no synchronizer in second gear into
> which I dropped a 1953 Cadillac engine with a Weber
> 4-barrel carburetor, making it the fastest 23 foot
> long 7200 pound vehicle on the road in it's day.
> 
> Rummy -- last year when this thread came up, or was
> it 2 or 3 years ago, I also mentioned the 1973
> Citroen-Maserati that was and still is molding away
> in my garage.  You asked me to send a picture, which
> I never did.  Sorry.  Here it is:
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Steve 
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list 
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Corvair
> 
> 
> That to bad, Roger.  Sounds like you had a lemon,
> for
> sure.  Never heard mom talk about the stuff below.  
> 
> My first car was a black 1974 monti carlo, velet
> sceval bucket seats.  Mam that car was fast, it only
> register 150 but I could bring it all the way around
> back up to around 10.  It was one of those car that
> was low in the back.  Simlar to the pontic gram pric
> which was also low in the back.  I was the first one
> in Corning to put the small glass pack on it.  It
> could rattle windows when I flew by someone house. 
> Talk about every cop in the country knowing my
> name:-)
> Steve
> 
> 
> --- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net> wrote:
> > Peter, Steve,
> > 
> > I had a 66 Corvair Corsa with a 4-speed for a
> while
> > when I was in college.
> > I couldn't keep the 4 carbs in sync, the
> serpentine
> > fan belt was always
> > coming off at high speed,  the thermostatic
> bellows
> > that controlled the air
> > dampers on the engine temperature regulation
> system
> > was always failing, and
> > there was a slight oil leak that caused the
> > defroster to fill the car with
> > at least a hot oil smell & sometimes oil smoke. 
> > Yeah, when the car ran, it
> > was had a lot of scoot & it handled great.  But,
> in
> > terms of relibility, it
> > wasn't ready for prime time.  My relibility
> problems
> > weren't unique, they
> > were typical of most owners of the Corvair.  Even
> by
> > the standards of mid
> > 1960's American car relibility, the Corvair was
> > poor.  When you add in the
> > rollover problems of the 1960 - 1964 models
> because
> > of the swing arm rear
> > suspension, the Corvair is a classic example of GM
> > releasing new technology
> > on the public before the technology is ready.  GM
> > tried to do too many new
> > (at least for them) things in one car, skimped too
> > much on cost (that's
> > where the swing axles came from), and probably
> > didn't do anywhere near
> > enough reliability testing prior to releasing the
> > car.
> > 
> > Roger
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 5:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Corvair
> > 
> > 
> > > Peter
> > > Yeah, mom really liked that car.  She still
> talks
> > > about it.
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Peter Thorn <pthorn at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > Steve,
> > > >
> > > > I had a '64 Corvair Spyder with 4 speed
> manual;
> > it
> > > > was great fun!  Your Mom
> > > > is right - it was quick off the line.  Never
> got
> > > > stuck in the Vermont snow
> > > > drifts, even without snow tires.  Too bad
> Nader
> > > > killed it.
> > > >
> > > > PT
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:12 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Corny energy
> source
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Roger
> > > > > My mom had a Corvair.  She said that was a
> > great
> > > > car.
> > > > > >From stop light to stop light, she said she
> > could
> > > > beat
> > > > > my dad in his 57 chevy.  But if they made
> the
> > > > first
> > > > > stop light, he pulled away good. 
> Appearently,
> > the
> > > > > Corvair had a fast start to it.
> > > > > Steve
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > Rummy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I saw GM's hydrogen powered concept car at
> > the
> > > > 2003
> > > > > > NAIAS.  It was also at
> > > > > > the 2002 NAIAS, although not as fully
> > developed.
> > > > > > So, you're right, GM is
> > > > > > moving forward with the project.  It's a
> > neat
> > > > > > concept with a lot of very
> > > > > > creative ideas.  But, until the hydrogen
> > > > > > infrastructure is in place, the
> > > > > > market will be very small.  At the moment,
> > the
> > > > > > hydrogen would have to come
> > > > > > from, are you ready ... natural gas!  Boy,
> > now
> > > > > > there's a great use for a
> > > > > > scarce unrenewable natural resource.  I
> > haven't
> > > > seen
> > > > > > any crash test data on
> > > > > > the prototype or any long term reliability
> > data
> > > > on
> > > > > > the fuel cells.  GM has a
> > > > > > long & undistinguished history of
> releasing
> > new
> > > > > > technology onto the public
> > > > > > before it's ready & then having a big mess
> > on
> > > > their
> > > > > > hands - the Corvair, the
> > > > > > Vega, the in-line SOHC Pontiac 6 engine,
> > etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Roger
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80 at mail.com>
> > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:22 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Corny energy
> > source
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > OH THE HUMANITY!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 06:00:47 EST
> > > > > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Corny
> energy
> > > > source
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Roger,
> > > > > > > > At last years Detroit auto show, GM
> > unveiled
> > > > > > it's new vehicle platform
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > is hydrogen based. The platform
> includes
> > > > > > steering and propulsion and is
> > > > > > > > approximately 8 inches high the entire
> > > > length.
> > > > > > The body is fitted to the
> > > > > > platform
> > > > > > > > and all connections, including joy
> stick
> > > > > > steering are made through one
> > > > > > > > electrical connection. When presented
> at
> > the
> > > > > > show, the oil industry
> > > > > > spokes people said
> > > > > > > > they weren't interested, but GM is
> going
> > > > full
> > > > > > speed forward with this
> > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > This is no longer conceptual, it is
> > already
> > > > > > here. They put safety first
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > hired some of the best people
> available
> > for
> > > > this
> > > > > > project. I read an
> > > > > > extensive
> > > > > > > > article a while back in one of the
> > > > International
> > > > > > trade magazines I
> > > > > > get.....very
> > > > > > > > cool project.
> > > > > > > > The cost for the new vehicle is
> reported
> > to
> > > > be
> > > > > > somewhere around a mid
> > > > > > size
> > > > > > > > luxury car, say around $20,000 fully
> > > > equipped.
> > > > > > Bodies can be changed
> > > > > > easily in a
> > > > > > > > home garage. Mom can have a station
> > wagon
> > > > during
> > > > > > the week and the kids
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > have a sports car on the weekends.
> > > > > > > > The byproduct of burning hydrogen is
> > water.
> > > > > > Water is the only emission.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rummy
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
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