[Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2

[Dan Bodnar]

Michael,
I've had several of the old 7.3L Diesels in E350 Vans.  The last one I owned
was in 2001 and it had glow plugs and a fuel heater and I'm fairly certain
that the new 6.0L still has the fuel heater.  I'm in the Metro Detroit area
and we rarely have nights much colder than -10 degrees.  I learned that I
did not need to plug it in unless it was going to be colder than 10 below
'cause the diesel started fine. I did plug it in when I knew it would be
colder than 10 below at night just to be safe. But, having forgotten to do
it a few times, taught me that they would start using just the recommended
start procedure. 

Anyway, fresh winter grade fuel, or some Premium diesel (which I think is
really #1) and your diesel should do fine. Also make sure that the water
separator really does get drained with every oil change. I never had a
diesel not start.  They were a little smoky sometimes when it was zero or
colder, but they always started.  I only used a diesel fuel conditioner on
one trip into Michigan's Upper Peninsula where I knew I was going to have
20+ below-zero weather.  I don't remember the gel point of diesel either,
but I'm pretty sure it is lower than 15 below... now that I think about it,
if the numbers aren't in the diesel supplement to your owner's manual, then
the gel point is printed on the back of some of the bottles of fuel
conditioner.  Oh, and with the new 6.0L electronically controlled diesel, if
you decide to use a fuel conditioner, "more is NOT better".  Raising the
flash point of the fuel too far will play havoc with proper combustion.
We had some initial growing pains with the new 6.0L Diesel, but the reports
I'm seeing lately say that the late 2003 and 2004 units are top drawer. 

Dan Bodnar 
SV QOL


-----Original Message-----From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:46 PM
To: sanderico at earthlink.net; The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2

That nice to know, under a little knowage is dangerous I heard that  use
Kerosene can be use up to 20% in the winter, also almost
anything can go into a disel engine, like bio-disel, made from used frechfry
oil :-)

MJM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico at earthlink.net>
To: <kroposki at innova.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2


> Ed,
>
> #1 fuel oil and kerosene are not the same thing. Kerosene is more
"refined"
> than #1 oil. #3 fuel oil is an even heavier oil than #2. I think they use
it
> for firing funaces (like asphalt plants) and things, industrial stuff more
> down south than up around here. It's heavy enough that you have to warm it
up
> before it will light easily. Not an expert on this though :-)
>
> I did run across a guy from down south a few years ago that claimed to be
> using #3 oil in the truck he was driving. It was about -20 F that night
and I
> stopped to help him as his truck was froze up (fuel gelled) on the side of
> I-94. Poor bastard was out in that shit in nothing but a light jacket and
a
> t-shirt. He was, to say the least, happy to see me. I would imagine that
they
> had to drain whatever fuel was in that truck and start over with all new,
> lighter fuel before that truck would ever go anywhere again before spring.
I
> think he learned that some of the things you can get away with down south,
> won't get you very far up here when it gets cold. Up here, we've got real
> honest to God.......COLD!!!!!
>
> Rik
>
>
> On 12/08/2003 08:16 pm, you wrote:
> > KEROSENE!   What is # 3 used for? and yes there is a #3.  Hey guys help
> > Rummy.
> >
> >                                                            Ed K
> >
> >
> >
> > Subject: Re: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
> >
> >
> >
> > I've always just known it as #1.
> >
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