[Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2

[Michael Meltzer]

thanks, I will watch it and take it easly on the centen booster, BTW mine might be a early one 3/2003(did not know it until I picked
it up), is their anything I should watch out for or bitch to the dealer about?(reflash the chip)

MJM
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Bodnar" <dsbodnar at earthlink.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:23 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2


> Michael,
> I've had several of the old 7.3L Diesels in E350 Vans.  The last one I owned
> was in 2001 and it had glow plugs and a fuel heater and I'm fairly certain
> that the new 6.0L still has the fuel heater.  I'm in the Metro Detroit area
> and we rarely have nights much colder than -10 degrees.  I learned that I
> did not need to plug it in unless it was going to be colder than 10 below
> 'cause the diesel started fine. I did plug it in when I knew it would be
> colder than 10 below at night just to be safe. But, having forgotten to do
> it a few times, taught me that they would start using just the recommended
> start procedure.
>
> Anyway, fresh winter grade fuel, or some Premium diesel (which I think is
> really #1) and your diesel should do fine. Also make sure that the water
> separator really does get drained with every oil change. I never had a
> diesel not start.  They were a little smoky sometimes when it was zero or
> colder, but they always started.  I only used a diesel fuel conditioner on
> one trip into Michigan's Upper Peninsula where I knew I was going to have
> 20+ below-zero weather.  I don't remember the gel point of diesel either,
> but I'm pretty sure it is lower than 15 below... now that I think about it,
> if the numbers aren't in the diesel supplement to your owner's manual, then
> the gel point is printed on the back of some of the bottles of fuel
> conditioner.  Oh, and with the new 6.0L electronically controlled diesel, if
> you decide to use a fuel conditioner, "more is NOT better".  Raising the
> flash point of the fuel too far will play havoc with proper combustion.
> We had some initial growing pains with the new 6.0L Diesel, but the reports
> I'm seeing lately say that the late 2003 and 2004 units are top drawer.
>
> Dan Bodnar
> SV QOL
>
>
> -----Original Message-----From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:46 PM
> To: sanderico at earthlink.net; The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
>
> That nice to know, under a little knowage is dangerous I heard that  use
> Kerosene can be use up to 20% in the winter, also almost
> anything can go into a disel engine, like bio-disel, made from used frechfry
> oil :-)
>
> MJM
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico at earthlink.net>
> To: <kroposki at innova.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
>
>
> > Ed,
> >
> > #1 fuel oil and kerosene are not the same thing. Kerosene is more
> "refined"
> > than #1 oil. #3 fuel oil is an even heavier oil than #2. I think they use
> it
> > for firing funaces (like asphalt plants) and things, industrial stuff more
> > down south than up around here. It's heavy enough that you have to warm it
> up
> > before it will light easily. Not an expert on this though :-)
> >
> > I did run across a guy from down south a few years ago that claimed to be
> > using #3 oil in the truck he was driving. It was about -20 F that night
> and I
> > stopped to help him as his truck was froze up (fuel gelled) on the side of
> > I-94. Poor bastard was out in that shit in nothing but a light jacket and
> a
> > t-shirt. He was, to say the least, happy to see me. I would imagine that
> they
> > had to drain whatever fuel was in that truck and start over with all new,
> > lighter fuel before that truck would ever go anywhere again before spring.
> I
> > think he learned that some of the things you can get away with down south,
> > won't get you very far up here when it gets cold. Up here, we've got real
> > honest to God.......COLD!!!!!
> >
> > Rik
> >
> >
> > On 12/08/2003 08:16 pm, you wrote:
> > > KEROSENE!   What is # 3 used for? and yes there is a #3.  Hey guys help
> > > Rummy.
> > >
> > >                                                            Ed K
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I've always just known it as #1.
> > >
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