[Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and TSB's

Todd Tavares sprocket80 at mail.com
Wed Dec 10 00:39:24 EST 2003


   Dan and MJM,

         I don't know where you can get copies of TSB's online, but you
   can search by vehicle and title of the bulletins and buy the ones you
   think you might need at  [1]http://www.alldata.com/recalls/
   Todd
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "Dan Bodnar"
   Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:51:19 -0500
   To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
   Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
   > Yes, Michael, make sure the chip is reflashed.
   > The early ones had problems with cold weather ( no power cold) and
   with
   > loosing power for no apparent reason (computer controls had a bug or
   two).
   > There were some mechanical issues, but more rare, more obvious and
   easier to
   > fix because once discovered they are easily repeated. A March build
   is in
   > fact right in the middle of the major upgrade period, so keep a
   watchful eye
   > and ear. Check for TSBs online (although I don't have a recommended
   source).
   > Also, e-mail me anytime she might hic-cup and I'll see what I can
   find out.
   >
   > Dan Bodnar
   > SV QOL
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
   > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael
   Meltzer
   > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:28 PM
   > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
   > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
   >
   > thanks, I will watch it and take it easly on the centen booster, BTW
   mine
   > might be a early one 3/2003(did not know it until I picked
   > it up), is their anything I should watch out for or bitch to the
   dealer
   > about?(reflash the chip)
   >
   > MJM
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: "Dan Bodnar"
   > To: "'The Rho des 22 mail list'"
   > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:23 PM
   > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
   >
   >
   > > Michael,
   > > I've had several of the old 7.3L Diesels in E350 Vans. The last
   one I
   > owned
   > > was in 2001 and it had glow plugs and a fuel heater and I'm fairly
   certain
   > > that the new 6.0L still has the fuel heater. I'm in the Metro
   Detroit
   > area
   > > and we rarely have nights much colder than -10 degrees. I learned
   that I
   > > did not need to plug it in unless it was going to be colder than
   10 below
   > > 'cause the diesel started fine. I did plug it in when I knew it
   would be
   > > colder than 10 below at night just to be safe. But, having
   forgotten to do
   > > it a few times, taught me that they would start using just the
   recommended
   > > start procedure.
   > >
   > &g t; Anyway, fresh winter grade fuel, or some Premium diesel (which
   I think is
   > > really #1) and your diesel should do fine. Also make sure that the
   water
   > > separator really does get drained with every oil change. I never
   had a
   > > diesel not start. They were a little smoky sometimes when it was
   zero or
   > > colder, but they always started. I only used a diesel fuel
   conditioner on
   > > one trip into Michigan's Upper Peninsula where I knew I was going
   to have
   > > 20+ below-zero weather. I don't remember the gel point of diesel
   either,
   > > but I'm pretty sure it is lower than 15 below... now that I think
   about
   > it,
   > > if the numbers aren't in the diesel supplement to your owner's
   manual,
   > then
   > > the gel point is printed on the back of some of the bottles of
   fuel
   > > conditioner. Oh, and with the new 6.0L electronically controlled
   diesel,
   > if
   > &g t; you decide to use a fuel conditioner, "more is NOT better".
   Raising the
   > > flash point of the fuel too far will play havoc with proper
   combustion.
   > > We had some initial growing pains with the new 6.0L Diesel, but
   the
   > reports
   > > I'm seeing lately say that the late 2003 and 2004 units are top
   drawer.
   > >
   > > Dan Bodnar
   > > SV QOL
   > >
   > >
   > > -----Original Message-----From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
   > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael
   Meltzer
   > > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:46 PM
   > > To: sanderico at earthlink.net; The Rhodes 22 mail list
   > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
   > >
   > > That nice to know, under a little knowage is dangerous I heard
   that use
   > > Kerosene can be use up to 20% in the winter, also almost
   > > anythin g can go into a disel engine, like bio-disel, made from
   used
   > frechfry
   > > oil :-)
   > >
   > > MJM
   > >
   > > ----- Original Message -----
   > > From: "Rik Sandberg"
   > > To: ; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
   > >
   > > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:54 PM
   > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
   > >
   > >
   > > > Ed,
   > > >
   > > > #1 fuel oil and kerosene are not the same thing. Kerosene is
   more
   > > "refined"
   > > > than #1 oil. #3 fuel oil is an even heavier oil than #2. I think
   they
   > use
   > > it
   > > > for firing funaces (like asphalt plants) and things, industrial
   stuff
   > more
   > > > down south than up around here. It's heavy enough that you have
   to warm
   > i t
   > > up
   > > > before it will light easily. Not an expert on this though :-)
   > > >
   > > > I did run across a guy from down south a few years ago that
   claimed to
   > be
   > > > using #3 oil in the truck he was driving. It was about -20 F
   that night
   > > and I
   > > > stopped to help him as his truck was froze up (fuel gelled) on
   the side
   > of
   > > > I-94. Poor bastard was out in that shit in nothing but a light
   jacket
   > and
   > > a
   > > > t-shirt. He was, to say the least, happy to see me. I would
   imagine that
   > > they
   > > > had to drain whatever fuel was in that truck and start over with
   all
   > new,
   > > > lighter fuel before that truck would ever go anywhere again
   before
   > spring.
   > > I
   > > > think he learned that some of the things you can get away with
   down
   > south, < BR>> > > won't get you very far up here when it gets cold.
   Up here, we've got
   > real
   > > > honest to God.......COLD!!!!!
   > > >
   > > > Rik
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > On 12/08/2003 08:16 pm, you wrote:
   > > > > KEROSENE! What is # 3 used for? and yes there is a #3. Hey
   guys
   > help
   > > > > Rummy.
   > > > >
   > > > > Ed K
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > > Subject: Re: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > > I've always just known it as #1.
   > > > >
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