[Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Under Water

[Todd Tavares]

   I was always told that gentlemen NEVER sail to weather.
---pinkies extended of course :-D


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ware, Joseph W." <joseph_ware at merck.com>
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 14:47:09 -0400
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Under Water

> Thanks Roger, and your assumption is correct, myself included.  It's going
> to be fun learning on this boat.
> 
> Joe
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Pihlaja [mailto:cen09402 at centurytel.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:43 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Under Water
> 
> 
> Joe,
> 
> The sailing performance of the Rhodes 22 is very sensitive to trim, both
> port/starboard as well as fore/aft.
> 
> I presume with that kind of party on board & from your question that you
> didn't have a skilled crew that could sail the boat "actively".
> 
> The Rhodes 22 sails best if it can be sailed as level as possible
> port/starboard & as nearly on the waterline fore/aft as possible.  In this
> respect, the R-22 behaves very much like a big sailing dingy.  You needed to
> put as many crew as possible up onto the windward rail & distribute them
> fore/aft to keep the boat in as level trim as possible.  If there are waves,
> the crew in front are going to get wet - this is considered to be part of
> the fun.  The problem if you pile everybody into the cockpit is that the
> stern of the boat does not have sufficient floatation for that much weight.
> The boat trims down by the stern.  The wetted surface of the hull under the
> cockpit behaves like the flaps on an airplane wing when the boat is trimmed
> down by the stern.  This large wetted surface area causes a lot of drag
> which tends to prevent the boat from achieving sufficient velocity to punch
> thru waves.  In addition, the R-22 develops weather helm when heeled, which
> tends to limit the boat's ability to go to weather.  It sounds like you made
> both mistakes & thus experienced the R-22 at its worst.
> 
> If you had put your crew up onto the windward rail & properly distributed
> their live ballast fore/aft; then, you would have been able to carry much
> more sail area to keep the boat moving, able to punch thru waves, and under
> control.  At times, you might have even started to plane!  Everybody has
> more fun at surf city.  Try it - you'll like it!
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ware, Joseph W." <joseph_ware at merck.com>
> To: "List Rhodes (E-mail)" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:40 AM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Under Water
> 
> 
> > I was out this past week with 7 people on board.  4 adults and three kids.
> > We had tons of wind, and had the genny furled from 100% down to 10% and
> > still brought water over the rail, as well as across the bow.  My question
> > is, with this many people in the boat, we had water in the cockpit all
> day.
> > Is this normal, and is there any way to change the balance forward to
> > eliminate the stern from sitting so low?
> >
> > Joe
> > s/v Whisper
> >
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