[Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Under Water

[Roger Pihlaja]

Todd,

Whatever gave you the idea I was any sort of gentleman?

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80 at mail.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:53 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Under Water


>    I was always told that gentlemen NEVER sail to weather.
> ---pinkies extended of course :-D
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ware, Joseph W." <joseph_ware at merck.com>
> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 14:47:09 -0400
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Under Water
>
> > Thanks Roger, and your assumption is correct, myself included.  It's
going
> > to be fun learning on this boat.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Pihlaja [mailto:cen09402 at centurytel.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:43 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Under Water
> >
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > The sailing performance of the Rhodes 22 is very sensitive to trim, both
> > port/starboard as well as fore/aft.
> >
> > I presume with that kind of party on board & from your question that you
> > didn't have a skilled crew that could sail the boat "actively".
> >
> > The Rhodes 22 sails best if it can be sailed as level as possible
> > port/starboard & as nearly on the waterline fore/aft as possible.  In
this
> > respect, the R-22 behaves very much like a big sailing dingy.  You
needed to
> > put as many crew as possible up onto the windward rail & distribute them
> > fore/aft to keep the boat in as level trim as possible.  If there are
waves,
> > the crew in front are going to get wet - this is considered to be part
of
> > the fun.  The problem if you pile everybody into the cockpit is that the
> > stern of the boat does not have sufficient floatation for that much
weight.
> > The boat trims down by the stern.  The wetted surface of the hull under
the
> > cockpit behaves like the flaps on an airplane wing when the boat is
trimmed
> > down by the stern.  This large wetted surface area causes a lot of drag
> > which tends to prevent the boat from achieving sufficient velocity to
punch
> > thru waves.  In addition, the R-22 develops weather helm when heeled,
which
> > tends to limit the boat's ability to go to weather.  It sounds like you
made
> > both mistakes & thus experienced the R-22 at its worst.
> >
> > If you had put your crew up onto the windward rail & properly
distributed
> > their live ballast fore/aft; then, you would have been able to carry
much
> > more sail area to keep the boat moving, able to punch thru waves, and
under
> > control.  At times, you might have even started to plane!  Everybody has
> > more fun at surf city.  Try it - you'll like it!
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ware, Joseph W." <joseph_ware at merck.com>
> > To: "List Rhodes (E-mail)" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:40 AM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Under Water
> >
> >
> > > I was out this past week with 7 people on board.  4 adults and three
kids.
> > > We had tons of wind, and had the genny furled from 100% down to 10%
and
> > > still brought water over the rail, as well as across the bow.  My
question
> > > is, with this many people in the boat, we had water in the cockpit all
> > day.
> > > Is this normal, and is there any way to change the balance forward to
> > > eliminate the stern from sitting so low?
> > >
> > > Joe
> > > s/v Whisper
> > >
> >
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