[Rhodes22-list] Solar Panel Output - Jay

[Jay Friedland]

Ed-
Both checked up once a week, topped if needed. Neither shows an 
appreciable loss. Thanks for covering the details.
Jay


On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 12:40 PM, Kroposki wrote:

> Jay,
> 	Have you checked the water level in both batteries?
>                  Ed K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Roger Pihlaja
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:24 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Solar Panel Output
>
> Jay,
>
> There's a simple way to troubleshoot your mysterious current draw.  
> 1st,
> rig
> up a way to measure or at least indicate the current being drawn from
> your
> battery.  This could be as high tech as a clamp-on inductive ampmeter
> over
> the +12 VDC lead off the battery or as low tech as an inexpensive 12 
> VDC
> automotive continuity test light wired in series with the +12 VDC lead
> off
> the battery.  Switch off all the 12 VDC circuits on board.  Make 
> certain
> you
> don't have anything like a night light or the LED time display on your
> stereo still turned on.  If you have no measurable current; then, your
> problem is in the battery itself losing charge.  If you have a small
> current; then, one by one, remove the fuses or circuit breakers until
> you
> isolate the faulty circuit.  Once you know which circuit is causing 
> your
> current draw, you should be able to figure out where the fault lies.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Friedland" <a.jayf at verizon.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Solar Panel Output
>
>
>> Thanks, Bill, I needed that!!!
>>
>> Seriously, I know I have a short some place but running checks across
>> all 6 circuits hasn't turned up anything. Without being able to
> isolate
>> it, I can only compensate right now. I know the cells aren't losing
>> much, just trying to hold what I can as a trickle charge. It's been
>> on-going since 1997, with some rewiring by a local marina guy, and
> then
>> at NC. Loss of voltage over weekend twice was after 1/2 hr.+ running
>> time on motor.
>>
>> Sat., I'll have a fresh set of eyes and meters. Next slip, an
>> electrical engr. will help this weekend. Trying to do most of this
>> without losing sailing time as well. You know what I have and it
>> doesn't make sense-
>> it's not that complicated. Will persevere till I nail it.
>> Jay
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, at 01:15 PM, Bill Effros wrote:
>>
>>> Jay,
>>>
>>> Roughly .2 amps in bright direct sunlight--.1 when overcast.
>>>
>>> You are overcomplicating this problem.
>>>
>>> I have essentially the same equipment and use.  You must have a
> short
>>> somewhere.  You are not losing this much power through your solar
>>> cells.  You are not using this much power with your lights and sound
>>> system.
>>>
>>> Your Yamaha should put more electricity into your system in 5
> minutes
>>> of running than your solar cells are capable of losing the following
>>> night--and a fully charged 2 battery system should have enough
> reserve
>>> power for more than 2 years of nights even if direct sunlight never
>>> falls on the solar cells during the day.
>>>
>>> My E-Meter measures the discharge of the solar cells at night.  It
> is
>>> accurate to .1--the discharge is less than that.  My system has
>>> remained fully charged day and night for more than 5 years (although
>>> the fully charged capacity has declined as the batteries have aged.)
>>>
>>> Find the short and stop fooling around.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Jay Friedland
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:47 AM
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Solar Panel Output
>>>
>>>
>>> List-
>>> Can anyone tell me the output of the standard solar panels, I
> believe
>>> Solarex, used from the factory? I'm still having a problem with
> voltage
>>> loss with a 2 battery, 2 panel system with switch. Using only nav
>>> lights and the 12v Cambridge Sound system, unable to start Yamaha
>>> engine, except manually. Contemplating adding Starter batt. isolated
>>> for engine only. I'm adding ICP charge controller this weekend as
> well
>>> and take some measurements to see where I'm losing power.
>>> Thanks,
>>> jay
>>>
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