[Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)

[John Tonjes]

Slim,
I wouldn't feel so bad about all the gas they burn if they would just quiet
the damn things down. They run with open headers and you can hear them
coming from five miles away. I asked the guy about the captain's choice
lever which would run the exhaust down into the water and make the boat
quieter.....his reply is that it would rob him of to much horsepower. Let's
see, he's got around 1000 hp, how much would be to much to lose? His claim
was that it would rob him of 300 hp....I doubt it.

Rummy


> [Original Message]
> From: Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com>
> To: Rhodes <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: 7/18/2003 1:46:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)
>
> Rummy, I'm with you.  The heavy machinery is a much bigger problem.  I
doubt
> I burn more than fifteen gallons a season.  It's a goddang blowboat for
> chirstsake!  If they ban 2 cycles, I would hope that they would put a cap
on
> it--like over 25 or something.
> Slim
> P.S. You're partying with the wrong people.
>
> On 7/17/03 6:54 PM, "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Roger,
> > If 2 cycle engines are outlawed, there are going to be a lot of unhappy
> > loggers, tree trimmers, grass maintenance compamies and homeowners who
use
> > them for everything from blowing leaves to mowing the lawn. Personally,
I
> > would prefer to see the 1000 hp cigarette boats with blowers outlawed
long
> > before the 2 cycles are done in. I talked with a guy a few weeks ago at
a
> > party with just such a boat. He can go in excess of 100mph on the
water. I
> > didn't bother asking about fuel consumption, but he did mention he
carried
> > 110 gallons of high test.
> > 
> > Rummy
> > 
> > 
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Date: 7/17/2003 5:22:54 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)
> >> 
> >> Steve,
> >> 
> >> Since 2-cycle engines are currently still legal to operate on most
bodies
> > of
> >> water in the United States, everyone must decide for themselves what
they
> >> want to do re this issue.  Certainly, PWC's & large 2-cycle outboards
> >> generate lots more pollution & waste much more fuel than the relatively
> >> small & infrequently used outboards on our R-22's.  I realize
replacing an
> >> outboard engine is an expensive proposition.  I myself did not switch
over
> >> to 4-cycle engines overnight.  The 2-cycle Evinrude 6 came installed on
> >> Dynamic Equilibrium when the boat was purchased in 1987 & we ran with
that
> >> engine for 9 years.  I replaced the 2-cycle Evinrude 6 on Dynamic
> >> Equilibrium with the 4-cycle Honda 8 in 1996.  However, in that same
> > year, I
> >> converted the long shaft Evinrude 6 back to a standard length shaft &
ran
> >> the 2-cycle engine on our 10 foot inflatable sport dingy until 2000,
when
> > I
> >> purchased the 4-cycle Honda 9.9.  I finally sold the 2-cycle Evinrude
at a
> >> yard sale in the summer of 2001.  By that point, the Evinrude was
getting
> > a
> >> little tired & looked pretty scruffy, but it still ran reasonably well.
> >> 
> >> The nearly 2X greater fuel consumption & more than 10X greater exhaust
> >> emissions issues with 2-cycle marine engines are real & well
documented.
> >> Their continued use does not represent good stewardship of the planet.
> > The
> >> real question everyone must ask themselves is, "Do you want to be part
of
> >> the problem or part of the solution?"  Long term, I think 2-cycle
marine
> >> engines will either be saddled with so much emissions control
technology
> >> that the cost, simplicity, & weight advantages over 4-cycle engines
will
> > go
> >> away or the 2-cycle engine will be banned altogether.  There is
already a
> >> small but steadily growing list of bodies of water wherein it is
illegal
> > to
> >> operate 2-cycle marine engines.  That's something to ponder when it
comes
> >> time to replace your current outboard.  If you wait until 2-cycle
engines
> >> are outlawed; then, your current outboard won't have much resale value.
> >> I've already voted with my checkbook.
> >> 
> >> Roger Pihlaja
> >> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:37 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> Well, Roger, I am sure you saw this coming but I like
> >>> my little 2 cycle motor.  Pollution & all:-)
> >>> Steve
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> --- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net> wrote:
> >>>> Richard,
> >>>> 
> >>>> I can usually follow your line of reasoning; but,
> >>>> this time I'm confused.  The discussion was about
> >>>> the relative merits of 2-cycle vs 4-cycle marine
> >>>> engines.  What do alcohol burning model airplane
> >>>> engines have to do with gasoline burning marine
> >>>> engines?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Roger Pihlaja
> >>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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