[Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Mon Jul 21 16:39:53 EDT 2003


Frank,

Judging from the comments made by 4-stroke owners on the list they have not been reliable at all, and yet those owners keep recommending them to new owners.  Then the new owners report that their brand new 4-strokes are not reliable either.  

The engines weigh a ton--many are twice as heavy as my 8 hp 2-stroke--people are getting electric motor lifts because the engines are so heavy.  

Many owners originally bought the Honda's for reliability and then switched to Yamahas.   

Owners run their engines at idle for long periods of time, first to get them warmed up, and then to expel all gas in the system before shutting them down--thereby totally negating the "gas saving" fuel economy in boats that only need them for a few minutes to get out of a slip or off a mooring.

"Light weight diesel" is an oxymoron.

Like you, I had hoped that my trusty old 2-stroke would die or get stolen so I could justify the purchase of the more up-to-date 4-stroke, but, again like you, that hasn't happened.  Now I'm glad.  My guess is that the Japanese will develop light weight, fuel efficient, low pollution 2-strokes, but that my trusty old Tohatsu will never die.

Bill Effros


----- Original Message ----- 
From: FNuttersNY at aol.com 
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org 
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)


Well folks interesting engine debate.  I have a 91/2 hp evinrude "sporttwin" 
in  a well on my 1973 R22 .  It came with the boat and is at least 30 yrs old. 
 I  almost pulled it out thinking any thing that old and ugly is ready for 
the scrap heap.  But I kept it in to give it a try but mounted a  new 3.3hp  
2strk John. on a bracket as back up.  Well to my delight the old sporttwin runs 
like a champ. No smoke  no mess and very smooth.  Starts on first pull. I have 
a throttle setup that slides in and out from under the bench with reverse and 
kill switch.  Two strokes have been reliable because the're simple plus they 
are light weight.  You get a high hp to weight ratio.    But I would have 
thought the new generation 4stks especially Hondas  would be superb and trouble 
free.  I would want them to  befairly light as well.  Is this not so?  You have 
me all wondering. Perhaps a small light weight desel job lurks on the horizon.
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