[Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks

Mary Lou Troy mltroy at netreach.net
Wed Jun 18 09:56:26 EDT 2003 

Wally,
You're right the bimini is large and it can get in the way but we've gotten 
to the point that we are so used to ours we don't mind stepping over or 
around it. Ours is a fixed mount but it will rest on the cabintop or 
against the raised pop-top if we are sailing with the pop-top up. When 
we're sailing and don't want to use it (usually in higher winds) we put on 
the cabintop. Otherwise it's great for keeping both sun and rain off.  It's 
been a great place to hang our foulies all spring. When we leave the boat 
we bungie it to the boom.

Mary Lou

At 08:19 AM 6/18/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>MJM,
>
>One reason I have held off on the Bimini is I have gotten the impression 
>that it is rather large and can get in the way. I liked the idea of 
>sliding forward and resting Bimini on cabin top when not in use. It sounds 
>like you have had this setup and were less than pleased. Besides breaking 
>what are the other downsides?
>
>Regarding the new design, I gather it is a fixed mount, so when not in use 
>does where does it sit?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Wally
>
>
>>From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
>>Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:17:12 -0400
>>
>>
>>I am not so sure, Stan changed the design, he is now using a nice piece 
>>of hardware that gets installed in the fiberglass, folds
>>flat when not in use(saw a set in the rain :-), much better mount. The 
>>track mounted ones are nice but I managed to destroy a set
>>and they do get in the way in use. BTW is a simple mater of making a set 
>>track ones from west parts.
>>
>>MJM
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "lcrowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:57 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
>>
>>
>> > Wally,
>> >
>> > Maybe Stan will order some more, there seems to be some interest on 
>> the list
>> > now!
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
>> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:41 PM
>> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
>> >
>> >
>> > > So if I understand correctly the hardware used in the posted pics is no
>> > > longer available from GB? What a shame I was thinking of breaking 
>> down and
>> > > buying ....
>> > >
>> > > Wally
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >From: Bill Berner <bberner at optonline.net>
>> > > >Reply-To: bberner at optonline.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> > > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > > >To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
>> > > >Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:29:41 -0400
>> > > >
>> > > >Lloyd -
>> > > >
>> > > >Don't mind at all.  Didn't realize it was a response to me!  They are
>> > great
>> > > >shots, and I'm jealous.
>> > > >
>> > > >Stan apparently doesn't have any more, or is (reasonably) holding 
>> them in
>> > > >reserve for the boats he's building/recycling.
>> > > >
>> > > >The alternative seems to be getting "bimini tracks" and slides 
>> which are
>> > > >available from WM and putting more junk on the gunnels.
>> > > >
>> > > >Haven't gotten around to it but expect to do so.
>> > > >
>> > > >Will post my experience when complete.
>> > > >
>> > > >Thanks again for the pix.
>> > > >
>> > > >BB
>> > > >
>> > > >Bill Berner
>> > > >191 South Broadway
>> > > >Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
>> > > >
>> > > >v 914 478 2896
>> > > >f 914 478 3856
>> > > >e BBerner at optonline.net
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >-----Original Message-----
>> > > >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> > > >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of lcrowther
>> > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:14 AM
>> > > >To: New Rhodes22 List
>> > > >Subject: Fw: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
>> > > >
>> > > >Ed,
>> > > >
>> > > >I only know that my track width is, or was. standard GB issue.  the
>> > reason
>> > > >I
>> > > >put the pictures in this list is because Bill Berner asked me about the
>> > > >cars.  Since there seems to be a general interest or curiosity about
>> > > >movable
>> > > >Bimini mounts I am posting the correspondence with Bill before I 
>> took the
>> > > >pictures.  Hope you don't mind, Bill!
>> > > >
>> > > >Lloyd
>> > > >s/v Uhuru II
>> > > >
>> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > >From: "lcrowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
>> > > >To: <bberner at optonline.net>
>> > > >Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:14 PM
>> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > Bill,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The car is made of a black plastic block with a groove on the bottom
>> > and
>> > > > > lips at the bottom of the groove sides which will fit under the 
>> track.
>> > > >(You
>> > > > > have to take off one stop, located at the ends of each the track, to
>> > fit
>> > > > > each block onto its track.)  On the top of the block, mounted by two
>> > > >screws,
>> > > > > is the same fitting that looks as if it could be positioned on the
>> > deck
>> > > >as
>> > > >a
>> > > > > fixed-position Bimini mount.  This fitting, which is screwed to the
>> > top
>> > > >of
>> > > > > the block, has a slot on top that takes the fitting tongue 
>> located at
>> > > >the
>> > > > > bottom of the Bimini tubing.  The slot on the top of the fitting 
>> that
>> > is
>> > > > > screwed on the top of the block has a screw hole through both 
>> sides; a
>> > > >screw
>> > > > > goes through one hole of this car fitting, through the hole in the
>> > > >tongue
>> > > >of
>> > > > > the Bimini pipe fitting, and through the hole in the other side car
>> > > >fitting.
>> > > > > The whole black plastic car unit is apparently made especially for
>> > Stan,
>> > > >he
>> > > > > had a whole bin full of them in April of 2002.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Sorry this explanation is so convoluted, hope you can figure it out.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Lloyd
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: "Bill Berner" <bberner at optonline.net>
>> > > > > To: "'lcrowther'" <lcrowther at cox.net>
>> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:37 AM
>> > > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Lloyd -
>> > > > >
>> > > > > What does the lead car look like?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I can't see how the end fitting on the bimini would mount to any of
>> > the
>> > > > > cars/fittings that are in the WM catalog.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > BB
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Bill Berner
>> > > > > 191 South Broadway
>> > > > > Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
>> > > > >
>> > > > > v 914 478 2896
>> > > > > f 914 478 3856
>> > > > > e BBerner at optonline.net
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: lcrowther [mailto:lcrowther at cox.net]
>> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:09 AM
>> > > > > To: bberner at optonline.net; The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Bill,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Last spring I went down to GB and bought a used Bimini from Stan.
>>I
>> > > >also
>> > > > > bought two (Bimini Mounting?) cars that I mounted on the Genoa lead
>> > car
>> > > > > tracks in front of the Genoa leads.  My track goes well back of my
>> > > >winches
>> > > > > and is very long but when I looked at the boats Stan had in for
>> > > >repair,etc.
>> > > > > the track layouts came in several configurations.  When my Bimini is
>> > > >folded
>> > > > > down I push the Bimini cars forward so the folded down Bimini 
>> crosses
>> > > >the
>> > > > > cabin roof far enough forward so it does not interfere with the 
>> access
>> > > > > below.  I seldom use my Bimini under sail; under power, in my 
>> slip, or
>> > > >at
>> > > > > anchor it is great.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Lloyd
>> > > > > s/v Uhuru II
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: "Bill Berner" <bberner at optonline.net>
>> > > > > To: <Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 2:20 PM
>> > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Last year we got a bimini from GB.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I'm interested in mounting it on a track, in the hopes that I'll be
>> > able
>> > > >to
>> > > > > slide it forward some in order to make it easier to sit up on the
>> > > >gunnels
>> > > > > when the boat is heeled over.  As set now it is really in the 
>> way, and
>> > > >also
>> > > > > a bit in the way of the genoa sheets if the fairleads are set 
>> close to
>> > > >the
>> > > > > winches.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > So my question is - anybody else got theirs on tracks.  Do you 
>> use the
>> > > >genoa
>> > > > > lead car track, and if so with what hardware.  Do you use a separate
>> > > >bimini
>> > > > > track outboard or inboard of the genoa track?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As Rumsfeld said, there are things we know, things we know we don't
>> > > >know,
>> > > > > and things we don't know that we don't know.  Applies to me with 
>> this
>> > > > > question.  All help appreciated.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > BB
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Bill Berner
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 191 South Broadway
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > v 914 478 2896
>> > > > >
>> > > > > f 914 478 3856
>> > > > >
>> > > > > e BBerner at optonline.net
>> > > > >
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