[Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks - Steve
Wally Buck
tnrhodey at hotmail.com
Wed Jun 18 11:54:37 EDT 2003
Steve,
Did you add these poles to the GB Bimini? I think that sounds like a nice
setup.
Wallt
>From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
>Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:15:30 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Oh yeah, Walley. Works great. Seem like I posted a
>pic some time ago. I am at work so I can't post one
>now. Got the bimini support poles from WM. I spent
>the extra & got the fully adjustable ones. They
>attachs to the stern rail and to the bimini. Holds it
>solid in place.
>Steve
>
>
>
>--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Steve, are you saying it is held up when not in use?
> >
> > Wally
> >
> >
> > >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> > >Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:24:32 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >I use bimini support poles that hold it up and in
> > >place. Have never had a problem with the bimini
> > being
> > >in the way.
> > >Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >--- Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net> wrote:
> > > > Wally,
> > > > You're right the bimini is large and it can get
> > in
> > > > the way but we've gotten
> > > > to the point that we are so used to ours we
> > don't
> > > > mind stepping over or
> > > > around it. Ours is a fixed mount but it will
> > rest on
> > > > the cabintop or
> > > > against the raised pop-top if we are sailing
> > with
> > > > the pop-top up. When
> > > > we're sailing and don't want to use it (usually
> > in
> > > > higher winds) we put on
> > > > the cabintop. Otherwise it's great for keeping
> > both
> > > > sun and rain off. It's
> > > > been a great place to hang our foulies all
> > spring.
> > > > When we leave the boat
> > > > we bungie it to the boom.
> > > >
> > > > Mary Lou
> > > >
> > > > At 08:19 AM 6/18/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > >MJM,
> > > > >
> > > > >One reason I have held off on the Bimini is I
> > have
> > > > gotten the impression
> > > > >that it is rather large and can get in the way.
> > I
> > > > liked the idea of
> > > > >sliding forward and resting Bimini on cabin top
> > > > when not in use. It sounds
> > > > >like you have had this setup and were less than
> > > > pleased. Besides breaking
> > > > >what are the other downsides?
> > > > >
> > > > >Regarding the new design, I gather it is a
> > fixed
> > > > mount, so when not in use
> > > > >does where does it sit?
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > >Wally
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>From: "Michael Meltzer"
> > <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > > >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> > > > >>Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:17:12 -0400
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I am not so sure, Stan changed the design, he
> > is
> > > > now using a nice piece
> > > > >>of hardware that gets installed in the
> > fiberglass,
> > > > folds
> > > > >>flat when not in use(saw a set in the rain
> > :-),
> > > > much better mount. The
> > > > >>track mounted ones are nice but I managed to
> > > > destroy a set
> > > > >>and they do get in the way in use. BTW is a
> > simple
> > > > mater of making a set
> > > > >>track ones from west parts.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>MJM
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>From: "lcrowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> > > > >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >>Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:57 PM
> > > > >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Wally,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Maybe Stan will order some more, there
> > seems to
> > > > be some interest on
> > > > >> the list
> > > > >> > now!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > > > >> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:41 PM
> > > > >> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> > tracks
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > So if I understand correctly the hardware
> > > > used in the posted pics is no
> > > > >> > > longer available from GB? What a shame I
> > was
> > > > thinking of breaking
> > > > >> down and
> > > > >> > > buying ....
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Wally
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > >From: Bill Berner
> > <bberner at optonline.net>
> > > > >> > > >Reply-To: bberner at optonline.net,The
> > Rhodes
> > > > 22 mail list
> > > > >> > > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >> > > >To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >> > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> > > > tracks
> > > > >> > > >Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:29:41 -0400
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >Lloyd -
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >Don't mind at all. Didn't realize it
> > was a
> > > > response to me! They are
> > > > >> > great
> > > > >> > > >shots, and I'm jealous.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >Stan apparently doesn't have any more,
> > or is
> > > > (reasonably) holding
> > > > >> them in
> > > > >> > > >reserve for the boats he's
> > > > building/recycling.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >The alternative seems to be getting
> > "bimini
> > > > tracks" and slides
> > > > >> which are
> > > > >> > > >available from WM and putting more junk
> > on
> > > > the gunnels.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >Haven't gotten around to it but expect
> > to do
> > > > so.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >Will post my experience when complete.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >Thanks again for the pix.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >BB
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >Bill Berner
> > > > >> > > >191 South Broadway
> > > > >> > > >Hastings on Hudson, NY 10706
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >v 914 478 2896
> > > > >> > > >f 914 478 3856
> > > > >> > > >e BBerner at optonline.net
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > > >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > >> > >
> > >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]
> > > > On Behalf Of lcrowther
> > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:14 AM
> > > > >> > > >To: New Rhodes22 List
> > > > >> > > >Subject: Fw: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> > > > tracks
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >Ed,
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >I only know that my track width is, or
> > was.
> > > > standard GB issue. the
> > > > >> > reason
> > > > >> > > >I
> > > > >> > > >put the pictures in this list is because
> > > > Bill Berner asked me about the
> > > > >> > > >cars. Since there seems to be a general
> > > > interest or curiosity about
> > > > >> > > >movable
> > > > >> > > >Bimini mounts I am posting the
> > > > correspondence with Bill before I
> > > > >> took the
> > > > >> > > >pictures. Hope you don't mind, Bill!
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >Lloyd
> > > > >> > > >s/v Uhuru II
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> > > >From: "lcrowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> > > > >> > > >To: <bberner at optonline.net>
> > > > >> > > >Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:14 PM
> > > > >> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> > > > tracks
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Bill,
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > The car is made of a black plastic
> > block
> > > > with a groove on the bottom
> > > > >> > and
> > > > >> > > > > lips at the bottom of the groove
> > sides
> > > > which will fit under the
> > > > >> track.
> > > > >> > > >(You
> > > > >> > > > > have to take off one stop, located at
> > the
> > > > ends of each the track, to
> > > > >> > fit
> > > > >> > > > > each block onto its track.) On the
> > top
> > > > of the block, mounted by two
> > > > >> > > >screws,
> > > > >> > > > > is the same fitting that looks as if
> > it
> > > > could be positioned on the
> > > > >> > deck
> > > > >> > > >as
> > > > >> > > >a
> > > > >> > > > > fixed-position Bimini mount. This
> > > > fitting, which is screwed to the
> > > > >> > top
> > > > >> > > >of
> > > > >> > > > > the block, has a slot on top that
> > takes
> > > > the fitting tongue
> > > > >> located at
> > > > >> > > >the
> > > > >> > > > > bottom of the Bimini tubing. The
> > slot on
> > > > the top of the fitting
> > > > >> that
> > > > >> > is
> > > > >> > > > > screwed on the top of the block has a
> > > > screw hole through both
> > > > >> sides; a
> > > > >> > > >screw
> > > > >> > > > > goes through one hole of this car
> > > > fitting, through the hole in the
> > > > >> > > >tongue
> > > > >> > > >of
> > > > >> > > > > the Bimini pipe fitting, and through
> > the
> > > > hole in the other side car
> > > > >> > > >fitting.
> > > > >> > > > > The whole black plastic car unit is
> > > > apparently made especially for
> > > > >> > Stan,
> > > > >> > > >he
> > > > >> > > > > had a whole bin full of them in April
> > of
> > > > 2002.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Sorry this explanation is so
> > convoluted,
> > > > hope you can figure it out.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Lloyd
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> > > > > From: "Bill Berner"
> > > > <bberner at optonline.net>
> > > > >> > > > > To: "'lcrowther'" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> > > > >> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:37 AM
> > > > >> > > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis
> > on
> > > > tracks
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Lloyd -
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > What does the lead car look like?
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > I can't see how the end fitting on
> > the
> > > > bimini would mount to any of
> > > > >> > the
> > > > >> > > > > cars/fittings that are in the WM
> > catalog.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > BB
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Bill Berner
> > > > >> > > > > 191 South Broadway
> > > > >> > > > > Hastings on Hudson, NY 10706
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > v 914 478 2896
> > > > >> > > > > f 914 478 3856
> > > > >> > > > > e BBerner at optonline.net
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > > > > From: lcrowther
> > > > [mailto:lcrowther at cox.net]
> > > > >> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:09 AM
> > > > >> > > > > To: bberner at optonline.net; The Rhodes
> > 22
> > > > mail list
> > > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis
> > on
> > > > tracks
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Bill,
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Last spring I went down to GB and
> > bought
> > > > a used Bimini from Stan.
> > > > >>I
> > > > >> > > >also
> > > > >> > > > > bought two (Bimini Mounting?) cars
> > that I
> > > > mounted on the Genoa lead
> > > > >> > car
> > > > >> > > > > tracks in front of the Genoa leads.
> > My
> > > > track goes well back of my
> > > > >> > > >winches
> > > > >> > > > > and is very long but when I looked at
> > the
> > > > boats Stan had in for
> > > > >> > > >repair,etc.
> > > > >> > > > > the track layouts came in several
> > > > configurations. When my Bimini is
> > > > >> > > >folded
> > > > >> > > > > down I push the Bimini cars forward
> > so
> > > > the folded down Bimini
> > > > >> crosses
> > > > >> > > >the
> > > > >> > > > > cabin roof far enough forward so it
> > does
> > > > not interfere with the
> > > > >> access
> > > > >> > > > > below. I seldom use my Bimini under
> > > > sail; under power, in my
> > > > >> slip, or
> > > > >> > > >at
> > > > >> > > > > anchor it is great.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Lloyd
> > > > >> > > > > s/v Uhuru II
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> > > > > From: "Bill Berner"
> > > > <bberner at optonline.net>
> > > > >> > > > > To: <Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >> > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 2:20 PM
> > > > >> > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> > > > tracks
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Last year we got a bimini from GB.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > I'm interested in mounting it on a
> > track,
> > > > in the hopes that I'll be
> > > > >> > able
> > > > >> > > >to
> > > > >> > > > > slide it forward some in order to
> > make it
> > > > easier to sit up on the
> > > > >> > > >gunnels
> > > > >> > > > > when the boat is heeled over. As set
> > now
> > > > it is really in the
> > > > >> way, and
> > > > >> > > >also
> > > > >> > > > > a bit in the way of the genoa sheets
> > if
> > > > the fairleads are set
> > > > >> close to
> > > > >> > > >the
> > > > >> > > > > winches.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > So my question is - anybody else got
> > > > theirs on tracks. Do you
> > > > >> use the
> > > > >> > > >genoa
> > > > >> > > > > lead car track, and if so with what
> > > > hardware. Do you use a separate
> > > > >> > > >bimini
> > > > >> > > > > track outboard or inboard of the
> > genoa
> > > > track?
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > As Rumsfeld said, there are things we
> > > > know, things we know we don't
> > > > >> > > >know,
> > > > >> > > > > and things we don't know that we
> > don't
> > > > know. Applies to me with
> > > > >> this
> > > > >> > > > > question. All help appreciated.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > BB
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Bill Berner
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > 191 South Broadway
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Hastings on Hudson, NY 10706
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > v 914 478 2896
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > f 914 478 3856
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > e BBerner at optonline.net
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
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