[Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks - Steve

Steve rhodes2282 at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 18 09:27:32 EDT 2003


No, Wally, its a WM bimini but the poles will work. 
If I remember right, you can get them for 5/8 or 1",
most of the Rhodes stuff is 5/8.  I think 5/8 is
right. 
Steve

--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> Did you add these poles to the GB Bimini? I think
> that sounds like a nice 
> setup.
> 
> Wallt
> 
> 
> >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> >Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:15:30 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Oh yeah, Walley.  Works great.  Seem like I posted
> a
> >pic some time ago.  I am at work so I can't post
> one
> >now.  Got the bimini support poles from WM.  I
> spent
> >the extra & got the fully adjustable ones.  They
> >attachs to the stern rail and to the bimini.  Holds
> it
> >solid in place.
> >Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Steve, are you saying it is held up when not in
> use?
> > >
> > > Wally
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> > > >Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:24:32 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >I use bimini support poles that hold it up and
> in
> > > >place.  Have never had a problem with the
> bimini
> > > being
> > > >in the way.
> > > >Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net> wrote:
> > > > > Wally,
> > > > > You're right the bimini is large and it can
> get
> > > in
> > > > > the way but we've gotten
> > > > > to the point that we are so used to ours we
> > > don't
> > > > > mind stepping over or
> > > > > around it. Ours is a fixed mount but it will
> > > rest on
> > > > > the cabintop or
> > > > > against the raised pop-top if we are sailing
> > > with
> > > > > the pop-top up. When
> > > > > we're sailing and don't want to use it
> (usually
> > > in
> > > > > higher winds) we put on
> > > > > the cabintop. Otherwise it's great for
> keeping
> > > both
> > > > > sun and rain off.  It's
> > > > > been a great place to hang our foulies all
> > > spring.
> > > > > When we leave the boat
> > > > > we bungie it to the boom.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mary Lou
> > > > >
> > > > > At 08:19 AM 6/18/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > > >MJM,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >One reason I have held off on the Bimini is
> I
> > > have
> > > > > gotten the impression
> > > > > >that it is rather large and can get in the
> way.
> > > I
> > > > > liked the idea of
> > > > > >sliding forward and resting Bimini on cabin
> top
> > > > > when not in use. It sounds
> > > > > >like you have had this setup and were less
> than
> > > > > pleased. Besides breaking
> > > > > >what are the other downsides?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Regarding the new design, I gather it is a
> > > fixed
> > > > > mount, so when not in use
> > > > > >does where does it sit?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Wally
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>From: "Michael Meltzer"
> > > <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > > > >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> tracks
> > > > > >>Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:17:12 -0400
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>I am not so sure, Stan changed the design,
> he
> > > is
> > > > > now using a nice piece
> > > > > >>of hardware that gets installed in the
> > > fiberglass,
> > > > > folds
> > > > > >>flat when not in use(saw a set in the rain
> > > :-),
> > > > > much better mount. The
> > > > > >>track mounted ones are nice but I managed
> to
> > > > > destroy a set
> > > > > >>and they do get in the way in use. BTW is
> a
> > > simple
> > > > > mater of making a set
> > > > > >>track ones from west parts.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>MJM
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>From: "lcrowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> > > > > >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >>Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:57 PM
> > > > > >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> tracks
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Wally,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Maybe Stan will order some more, there
> > > seems to
> > > > > be some interest on
> > > > > >> the list
> > > > > >> > now!
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> > From: "Wally Buck"
> <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > > > > >> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:41 PM
> > > > > >> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> > > tracks
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > So if I understand correctly the
> hardware
> > > > > used in the posted pics is no
> > > > > >> > > longer available from GB? What a
> shame I
> > > was
> > > > > thinking of breaking
> > > > > >> down and
> > > > > >> > > buying ....
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Wally
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > >From: Bill Berner
> > > <bberner at optonline.net>
> > > > > >> > > >Reply-To: bberner at optonline.net,The
> > > Rhodes
> > > > > 22 mail list
> > > > > >> > > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >> > > >To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
> > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >> > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis
> on
> > > > > tracks
> > > > > >> > > >Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:29:41
> -0400
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >Lloyd -
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >Don't mind at all.  Didn't realize
> it
> > > was a
> > > > > response to me!  They are
> > > > > >> > great
> > > > > >> > > >shots, and I'm jealous.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >Stan apparently doesn't have any
> more,
> > > or is
> > > > > (reasonably) holding
> > > > > >> them in
> > > > > >> > > >reserve for the boats he's
> > > > > building/recycling.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >The alternative seems to be getting
> > > "bimini
> > > > > tracks" and slides
> > > > > >> which are
> > > > > >> > > >available from WM and putting more
> junk
> > > on
> > > > > the gunnels.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >Haven't gotten around to it but
> expect
> > > to do
> > > > > so.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >Will post my experience when
> complete.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >Thanks again for the pix.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >BB
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >Bill Berner
> > > > > >> > > >191 South Broadway
> > > > > >> > > >Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >v 914 478 2896
> > > > > >> > > >f 914 478 3856
> > > > > >> > > >e BBerner at optonline.net
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> > > >From:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > > >> > >
> > > >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]
> > > > > On Behalf Of lcrowther
> > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:14
> AM
> > > > > >> > > >To: New Rhodes22 List
> > > > > >> > > >Subject: Fw: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis
> on
> > > > > tracks
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >Ed,
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >I only know that my track width is,
> or
> > > was.
> > > > > standard GB issue.  the
> > > > > >> > reason
> > > > > >> > > >I
> > > > > >> > > >put the pictures in this list is
> because
> > > > > Bill Berner asked me about the
> > > > > >> > > >cars.  Since there seems to be a
> general
> > > > > interest or curiosity about
> > > > > >> > > >movable
> > > > > >> > > >Bimini mounts I am posting the
> > > > > correspondence with Bill before I
> > > > > >> took the
> > > > > >> > > >pictures.  Hope you don't mind,
> Bill!
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >Lloyd
> > > > > >> > > >s/v Uhuru II
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> > > >From: "lcrowther"
> <lcrowther at cox.net>
> > > > > >> > > >To: <bberner at optonline.net>
> > > > > >> > > >Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:14 PM
> > > > > >> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis
> on
> > > > > tracks
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Bill,
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > The car is made of a black
> plastic
> > > block
> > > > > with a groove on the bottom
> > > > > >> > and
> > > > > >> > > > > lips at the bottom of the groove
> > > sides
> > > > > which will fit under the
> > > > > >> track.
> > > > > >> > > >(You
> > > > > >> > > > > have to take off one stop,
> located at
> > > the
> > > > > ends of each the track, to
> > > > > >> > fit
> > > > > >> > > > > each block onto its track.)  On
> the
> > > top
> > > > > of the block, mounted by two
> > > > > >> > > >screws,
> > > > > >> > > > > is the same fitting that looks as
> if
> > > it
> > > > > could be positioned on the
> > > > > >> > deck
> > > > > >> > > >as
> > > > > >> > > >a
> > > > > >> > > > > fixed-position Bimini mount. 
> This
> > > > > fitting, which is screwed to the
> > > > > >> > top
> > > > > >> > > >of
> > > > > >> > > > > the block, has a slot on top that
> > > takes
> > > > > the fitting tongue
> > > > > >> located at
> > > > > >> > > >the
> > > > > >> > > > > bottom of the Bimini tubing.  The
> > > slot on
> > > > > the top of the fitting
> > > > > >> that
> > > > > >> > is
> > > > > >> > > > > screwed on the top of the block
> has a
> > > > > screw hole through both
> > > > > >> sides; a
> > > > > >> > > >screw
> > > > > >> > > > > goes through one hole of this car
> > > > > fitting, through the hole in the
> > > > > >> > > >tongue
> > > > > >> > > >of
> > > > > >> > > > > the Bimini pipe fitting, and
> through
> > > the
> > > > > hole in the other side car
> > > > > >> > > >fitting.
> > > > > >> > > > > The whole black plastic car unit
> is
> > > > > apparently made especially for
> > > > > >> > Stan,
> > > > > >> > > >he
> > > > > >> > > > > had a whole bin full of them in
> April
> > > of
> > > > > 2002.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Sorry this explanation is so
> > > convoluted,
> > > > > hope you can figure it out.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Lloyd
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> > > > > From: "Bill Berner"
> > > > > <bberner at optonline.net>
> > > > > >> > > > > To: "'lcrowther'"
> <lcrowther at cox.net>
> > > > > >> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:37
> AM
> > > > > >> > > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list]
> Biminis
> > > on
> > > > > tracks
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Lloyd -
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > What does the lead car look like?
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > I can't see how the end fitting
> on
> > > the
> > > > > bimini would mount to any of
> > > > > >> > the
> > > > > >> > > > > cars/fittings that are in the WM
> > > catalog.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > BB
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Bill Berner
> > > > > >> > > > > 191 South Broadway
> > > > > >> > > > > Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > v 914 478 2896
> > > > > >> > > > > f 914 478 3856
> > > > > >> > > > > e BBerner at optonline.net
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> > > > > From: lcrowther
> > > > > [mailto:lcrowther at cox.net]
> > > > > >> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:09
> AM
> > > > > >> > > > > To: bberner at optonline.net; The
> Rhodes
> > > 22
> > > > > mail list
> > > > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]
> Biminis
> > > on
> > > > > tracks
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Bill,
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Last spring I went down to GB and
> > > bought
> > > > > a used Bimini from Stan.
> > > > > >>I
> > > > > >> > > >also
> > > > > >> > > > > bought two (Bimini Mounting?)
> cars
> > > that I
> > > > > mounted on the Genoa lead
> > > > > >> > car
> > > > > >> > > > > tracks in front of the Genoa
> leads.
> > > My
> > > > > track goes well back of my
> > > > > >> > > >winches
> > > > > >> > > > > and is very long but when I
> looked at
> > > the
> > > > > boats Stan had in for
> > > > > >> > > >repair,etc.
> > > > > >> > > > > the track layouts came in several
> > > > > configurations.  When my Bimini is
> > > > > >> > > >folded
> > > > > >> > > > > down I push the Bimini cars
> forward
> > > so
> > > > > the folded down Bimini
> > > > > >> crosses
> > > > > >> > > >the
> > > > > >> > > > > cabin roof far enough forward so
> it
> > > does
> > > > > not interfere with the
> > > > > >> access
> > > > > >> > > > > below.  I seldom use my Bimini
> under
> > > > > sail; under power, in my
> > > > > >> slip, or
> > > > > >> > > >at
> > > > > >> > > > > anchor it is great.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Lloyd
> > > > > >> > > > > s/v Uhuru II
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> > > > > From: "Bill Berner"
> > > > > <bberner at optonline.net>
> > > > > >> > > > > To: <Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >> > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003
> 2:20 PM
> > > > > >> > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis
> on
> > > > > tracks
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Last year we got a bimini from
> GB.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > I'm interested in mounting it on
> a
> > > track,
> > > > > in the hopes that I'll be
> > > > > >> > able
> > > > > >> > > >to
> > > > > >> > > > > slide it forward some in order to
> > > make it
> > > > > easier to sit up on the
> > > > > >> > > >gunnels
> > > > > >> > > > > when the boat is heeled over.  As
> set
> > > now
> > > > > it is really in the
> > > > > >> way, and
> > > > > >> > > >also
> > > > > >> > > > > a bit in the way of the genoa
> sheets
> > > if
> > > > > the fairleads are set
> > > > > >> close to
> > > > > >> > > >the
> > > > > >> > > > > winches.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > So my question is - anybody else
> got
> > > > > theirs on tracks.  Do you
> > > > > >> use the
> > > > > >> > > >genoa
> > > > > >> > > > > lead car track, and if so with
> what
> > > > > hardware.  Do you use a separate
> > > > > >> > > >bimini
> > > > > >> > > > > track outboard or inboard of the
> > > genoa
> > > > > track?
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > As Rumsfeld said, there are
> things we
> > > > > know, things we know we don't
> > > > > >> > > >know,
> > > > > >> > > > > and things we don't know that we
> > > don't
> > > > > know.  Applies to me with
> > > > > >> this
> > > > > >> > > > > question.  All help appreciated.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > BB
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Bill Berner
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > 191 South Broadway
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > v 914 478 2896
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > f 914 478 3856
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > e BBerner at optonline.net
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >
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