[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 14
Kroposki
kroposki at innova.net
Wed May 7 11:34:47 EDT 2003
Patricia:
There are a couple of Rhodes 19's on the list, and one 32, but
you are the first 14 that has identified herself. Welcome on behalf of
your neighbors on Lake Hartwell.
Ed K
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Patricia M
Myler
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 3:16 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodies in Canton GA and Atlanta!!
I've been lurking the past few weeks..I am a partial-Rhodie I guess...I
have
a Rhodes Bantam 14 (hull number 1166) with a wood mast, no less.
Allatoona
is a great power boat/skidoo lake, but you dont see that many sailboats
there. Lanier, although farther away, has great wind, huge shoreline,
and
areas/marinas that are predominantly sailboat oriented..check out
Aqualand,
Sunrise Cove and Holiday Marinas (with Aqualand as hands down majority
sailboats). Also, there is an active group that sails out of Lake
Lanier
marinas called Barefoot Sailing Club that hosts small sailing regattas,
cookouts, etc. Dont know much about Hartwell--it is much more of a drive
from Canton. I've seakayaked there and the power boaters seem pretty
respectful, which was not the case when I tried to sail on Allatoona.
Also,
if you are into trailering your boat to the Georgia coast, there is a
fantastic sailing area called St. Simons Island (Golden Isles
Marina--owned
by Barney Riley). It's about 3 1/2 hours from Atlanta--well worth the
drive
Good luck on your interview--this is not that bad a place to live now
that
we have Yankees and mid-westerners to civilize it!! PS--I am a native
Atlantan, but I do NOT chew tobacco, do NOT go to dirt track stock car
races
am NOT married to my older brother, do NOT have my washing machine on
my
front porch, do NOT eat possums or other road kill, do NOT live in a
trailer
and truly do NOT(for real) believe in the Rebel flag and what it
symbolizes
to some of the inbreds that live at the bottom of our food chain. I DO
however say "Y'all" a lot, even after living in Manhattan for a year.
PPS To all Y'all....what is the KY Lakes?
Thanks....Trish Myler call me if you need directions to Lake Lanier
marinas, etc(404) 422-6902
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 11:21:22 -0500
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] sailing dinghy
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Brad,
My motorized dinghy was just an afterthought. I had a $99 trolling motor
in
the basement, and a small -- the smallest size in WM -- 12 volt battery
in
the sunporch. Putting them together I was surprised they did so well. My
boat is 1/2 mile from where I launch my dinghy. I steer the dinghy by
leaning -- it will go in the direction opposite the lean -- for
amusement.
The amount of electricity used is insignificant. The trip takes maybe 5
minutes. At first I was recharging the battery after every use. Then I
realized that was completely unnecessary. I don't use it that often,
because
I prefer to row. I charge the battery at the beginning of the season and
leave it at that. If the battery seems to be running low I will probably
recharge from the batteries on board -- with 2 batteries on a Rhodes you
have much more electricity than you need.
Bill Effros
----- Original Message -----
From: brad haslett
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] sailing dinghy
Bill,
Walker Bay just came out with a RIB/hard dinghy combo
(its on their website) that looks attractive. The
main attraction is the additional stability. Like all
things nautical, dinghy choice involves compromise.
The dinks that sail well (Optimist, Mirror) don't make
the best tenders and I doubt the Fatty Knees/Walker
Bay/prams that row/motor well sail all that easily.
Question: what size trolling motor/battery combo do
you have and how many hours of service do you get
between charges?
Brad
--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> Brad,
>
> I've been using the 8 ft. Walker Bay for the past 3
> years, and it is a good value for the money. I paid
> $400 for mine, brand new. I think they cost a
> little more now.
>
> I'm on a mooring and like to row out to it. The
> Walker Bay rows OK, not as well as purpose built
> rowing dinghies, much better than inflatables.
> >From a Rhodes it's a piece of cake to get into and
> out of the dinghy--I do it all the time--in the
> dark--in small craft warnings.
>
> I put a small electric motor on it out of curiosity,
> and it has no trouble pushing along 2 adults and the
> boat. Both the electric motor and battery easily
> store inside an R-22 lazarette.
>
> I've towed the dinghy behind the R-22--no problem.
> The dinghy has positive flotation.
>
> The sailing option looks like a lot of trouble for a
> little bit of fun.
>
> The 8 ft. size fits easily in the back of a pick-up,
> is easy for 1 person to lift on dry land, has a
> little wheel in the skeg that allows one person to
> move it around on land. As a single-hander I have
> been very happy with it.
>
> The 10 ft. size would be useful for moving more
> stuff or people. The 8 ft. is difficult to row with
> 2 people on board.
>
> Bill Effros
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: brad haslett
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 10:53 AM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] sailing dinghy
>
>
> I'm in the market for a dink (for the S2, not the
> R-22) and have pretty much decided on a hard plastic
> model like the Walker Bay or Fatty Knees. Does
> anyone
> on the list have any experience with either of these
> and especially with adding the sail kit. Honda has
> a
> new 2hp air-cooled 4-cycle engine available at 28
> pounds. About an 8 to 10 foot dink that will move
> with 2hp and possibly a light wind is what "I think"
> I
> want.
>
> Brad Haslett
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 12:25:07 -0400
From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] different subject - The Airline Mess
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I didn't read the whole thing but I say if an airline(s) is going under
let
them. If laws were broken charge those responsible. If they didn't break
any
laws then I am not sure about the "street thug" comment. If stock
holders
support the outrageous pay of upper management then they only have
themselves to blame.
I don't know what the answer is but the government needs to get out of
the
"bail out" business. Also CEO Level pay is way to high with no end in
sight.
Wally
>From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] different subject - The Airline Mess
>Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 08:35:40 -0700 (PDT)
>
>The Axis of Excess: By Joe Brancatelli
>
>April 24, 2003 -- You can't watch the unfolding saga
>of corporate greed and malfeasance in the executive
>suites of the Big Six airlines without immediately
>thinking of snappy joke lines.
>
>You know, stuff like Monkey See, Monkey Steal. Flying
>Pigs at the Trough. Or, my personal favorite:
>Barbarians at the Boarding Gate.
>
>But this is not funny. While the greedy, amoral men
>who run the nation's largest carriers are looting
>their airlines, shareholder equity is being destroyed,
>good jobs are being lost, surviving rank-and-filers
>must bear draconian pay cuts, taxpayer dollars are
>being squandered and the nation is watching a huge
>portion of its airline infrastructure disintegrate.
>
>It is a disgusting display. The buccaneers who run the
>nation's Big Six carriers are the American equivalent
>of the street mobs who looted the Baghdad Museum of
>its cultural treasures.
>
>There's no difference between Delta chief executive
>Leo Mullin, who paid himself $100,000 in cash bonuses
>for every $100 million the carrier lost last year, and
>a street thug who stole a priceless Sumerian pot from
>the Baghdad Museum. United chief executive Glenn
>Tilton, who lived in an $18,000-a-month condo on the
>company tab while the airline was hemorrhaging $20
>million a day during the winter, is no
>less reprehensible than the looter who carried
>Babylonian treasures out of the broken front doors of
>the Baghdad Museum.
>
>Mullin, Tilton, Continental bully-in-chief Gordon
>Bethune, the current roster of fools who run Northwest
>and US Airways and even American chairman Don Carty,
>who these days looks more like a lost soul than a
>master corporate schemer, are all the same. They dress
>better than Baghdad street looters, but their
>mentality is the same. They are thieves.
>
>The men who are running the Big Six into the corporate
>grave form a repugnant Axis of Excess. Nothing matters
>to them except lining their pockets and their
>retirement portfolios. The Axis of Excess has no sense
>of personal shame, no sense of fiduciary
>responsibility and absolutely no agenda except cashing
>out.
>
>In case your attention has been diverted by the war in
>Iraq or the spreading SARS epidemic, let me give you a
>brief carrier-by-carrier recap of what has been
>learned as the Big Six have filed their proxy
>statements, 10-Ks, annual reports and other required
>Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) documents.
>
>AMERICAN AIRLINES American's parent, AMR, lost $3.5
>billion last yearand yesterday it reported a $1
>billion first-quarter loss. After weeks of
>negotiations, promises that executives would share in
>sacrifices and threats of a bankruptcy filing, the
>airline secured $1.8 billion in annual concessions
>from pilots, mechanics and flight attendants.
>
>Then the agreements imploded when American admitted in
>delayed SEC filings that it had shielded some of the
>pensions of the airline's top 45 executives from the
>effects of a bankruptcy filing. The top six
>executives were also offered "retention bonuses" of
>nearly twice their base pay to stay with the airline.
>Earlier this week, Carty cancelled the retention-bonus
>plan and apologized for misleading the unions, but
>he didn't repeal the trust that protects the executive
>pensions nor did he apologize for allowing the
>executive booty in the first place.
>
>Ironically, American has traditionally paid its top
>executives less than most other airlines and the newly
>disclosed perks pale in comparison to the lush
>programs offered to top officials of the other
>carriers.
>
>CONTINENTAL AIRLINES After rashly promising that
>Continental would be in the black by last year's
>second quarter, the airline reported losses in excess
>of $450 million in 2002. Last week it reported a
>first-quarter loss of $221 million, sharply higher
>than last year's first-quarter loss of $166 million.
>The airline now admits there is no chance for profit
>this year or 2004, either. How has Continental
>management reacted to the huge--and, to them,
>unexpected--losses?
>
>Well, Bethune gave himself a pay package of about $7.6
>million last year, more than 82 percent above his 2001
>compensation. Along with stock options and other
>perks, Bethune's 2002 compensation was $11.9
>million. The airline's other top executives were
>proportionately rewarded.
>
>DELTA AIR LINES I detailed the lavish awards made to
>Delta's top five executives in a column posted last
>month:
>
><
>http://www.zyworld.com/brancatelli/bf2003/branc032703.htm>
>.
>
>But just to recap: The carrier has lost $2.5 billion
>in the last two fiscal years, including $1.3 billion
>last year, when Mullin paid himself a $1.4 million
>cash bonus. The excesses at Delta led Congress
>to write some minimal rules about executive payouts
>into its latest airline bailout package, but Mullin
>and crew seem blind to the rebuke.
>
>After taking a cosmetic pay cut last month, Mullin
>defended the airline's egregious pay packets and
>"retention" bonuses, claiming he needed to keep the
>executive team together. In other words, an airline
>that lost $466 million in this year's first
>quarter--or the equivalent of more than $5 million a
>day--just can't afford to lose the crack
>executives who are responsible for the carrier's
>alarming cash burn.
>
>NORTHWEST AIRLINES Northwest was long ago looted by
>the departed Al Cheechi and by current chairman Gary
>Wilson. During the 1990s, they funneled tens of
>millions annually out of Northwest to their private
>companies, claiming the payments were personal
>management fees. New management is no less abusive,
>however. The carrier lost $798 million last year, yet
>chief executive Richard Anderson paid himself a cash
>bonus of 50 percent of his annual salary of $500,000.
>He also received a retention bonus of stock worth
>almost $2 million more. Northwest also paid out
>millions in retention bonuses to dozens of other top
>managers. This week, a Northwest filing with the SEC
>revealed that former Northwest chief financial officer
>Mickey Foret (former Continental executive) has been
>hired as a consultant. Foret was paid an up-front fee
>of $240,000 and he draws a monthly stipend of $80,000
>through December, 2004. By the way, last week
>Northwest reported a first-quarter loss of $396
>million, more than double last year's first-quarter
>loss of $171 million. It is also negotiating with its
>labor unions and rank-and- file workers, demanding
>almost $1 billion a year in concessions.
>
>UNITED AIRLINES United Airlines paid new chief
>executive Glenn Tilton nearly $12 million to join the
>sinking ship last fall. He promptly ensconced himself
>in an $18,000-a-month condo on the company expense
>account. Since his arrival, the airline has filed for
>bankruptcy and reported a 2002 loss of more than $3
>billion. His recovery plan for the carrier has been
>ridiculed by the government agency that administered
>the 2001 loan-guarantee program, United's
>bankruptcy-court judge and virtually any analyst that
>has examined it. He is also paying the McKinsey
>consulting firm a monthly fee of about $1 million to
>help
>him develop a carrier-within-a-carrier even though
>United has already failed with an earlier attempt to
>create a low-fare unit. Meanwhile, United employees,
>who once owned 55 percent of the carrier in exchange
>for massive wage and benefit concessions granted in
>the 1990s, have lost all their equity. They have also
>been forced to accept billions more in concessions as
>United used the shield of bankruptcy court to break or
>renegotiate their contracts. Of course, all this comes
>against the backdrop of the tens of millions former
>United boss Steve Wolf paid himself while he ran the
>company.
>
>US AIRWAYS US Airways was driven into bankruptcy by
>the aforementioned Wolf and his team of cronies. They
>paid themselves hundreds of millions of dollars during
>their disastrous six-year regime. They subsequently
>retired, but not before the airline paid out $35
>million in lump-sum retirement benefits to Wolf,
>former chief executive Rakesh Gangwal and Larry Nagin,
>the airline's former top legal official. After
>declaring bankruptcy, the airline terminated its
>pilot's pension fund.
>
>Retired US Airways pilots now face pension cuts in the
>neighborhood of 70 percent. Meanwhile, the new
>management team continues to reward itself lavishly.
>The current chief executive, David Siegel, received
>2002 compensation of $533,000 in salary, a cash bonus
>of $750,000 and more than $160,000 in other
>compensation. Other notable figures in the airline's
>SEC filings: US Airways paid Siegel $68,000 in moving
>expenses last year. The new chief financial officer,
>Neil Cohen,received $40,640 in moving expenses. That's
>about the same amount a senior flight attendant at US
>Airways now earns.
>
>One final note. Remember that 2001 taxpayer-funded
>airline bailout of $4.5 billion? Hawaiian Airlines
>received about $30 million of it, but
>that didn't help the carrier avoid a bankruptcy filing
>last month.
>
>Boeing, which is one of Hawaiian's biggest creditors,
>wants the carrier's management removed.
>
>Boeing claims Hawaiian's management paid out more than
>$25 million via a tender offer last year as a "reward"
>to shareholders. In a filing with the bankruptcy
>court, Boeing adds that members of Hawaiian's
>management and their affiliates received more than 69
>percent of the $25 million tender. In other words,
>Boeing believes Hawaiian's management personally
>pocketed more than half of the $30 million in
>taxpayer grants.
>
>What do you think? I'd like to know. Contact me at
>JBrancatelli at aol.com.
>
>Joe Brancatelli is editor and publisher of
>JoeSentMe.com, a Web site for business travelers. He
>is also the former executive editor of Frequent Flyer
>magazine, travel advisor of Travel Holiday and
>contributing editor to Travel + Leisure. He can be
>reached at travel at usatoday.com.
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 11:41:25 -0400
From: "Larry Abbott" <laabbott at cushing.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] info.
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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I received this address from Stan Spitzer. How can I join? Thanks, Larry
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 12:28:21 -0400
From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] info.
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You have been signed uppped.
MJM
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Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 11:41 AM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] info.
> I received this address from Stan Spitzer. How can I join? Thanks,
Larry
> Abbott
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 12:44:09 -0400
From: "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] info.
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Larry
Well, it looks like you made the trip to the wacky world of Rhodies
successfully. Welcome to the list.
Rummy
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> Date: 5/5/2003 11:28:44 AM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] info.
>
> I received this address from Stan Spitzer. How can I join? Thanks,
Larry
> Abbott
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 10:28:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] different subject - The Airline Mess
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Wally,
Actually, if one of the big airlines DID go under it
would solve a lot of problems for the ones that are
left. I have friends at all of them so its not
something I want to see happen but it probably needs
to happen. The 9/11 bailout loans/payments were a
"feel good" solution that may have been necessary at
the time to keep the country going psycologically but
is not a long term solution. Some of the companies
that held their hand out were plain disgusting (I
won't mention names). SouthWest is the only
consistantly profitable airline but not for the
reasons most people think. SWA is heaviliy unionized
and pays very well. They differ in that their
business model is more efficient and their employees
and equipment are used more productively. The cheap
labor costs that the 1978 De-regulation bill was
supposed to bring has not spawned a single surviving
airline that hasn't gone through bankruptcy (if you're
thinking of Jet Blue, its too soon to make a
judgement, they haven't started making payments on
their French jets yet). The new reality of the
marketplace is that SouthWest style service may seem
like First Class compared to being shoe-horned into a
regional jet. The good times were fun while they
lasted. Long live freight!
Brad
--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I didn't read the whole thing but I say if an
> airline(s) is going under let
> them. If laws were broken charge those responsible.
> If they didn't break any
> laws then I am not sure about the "street thug"
> comment. If stock holders
> support the outrageous pay of upper management then
> they only have
> themselves to blame.
>
> I don't know what the answer is but the government
> needs to get out of the
> "bail out" business. Also CEO Level pay is way to
> high with no end in sight.
>
>
> Wally
>
> >From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] different subject - The
> Airline Mess
> >Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 08:35:40 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >The Axis of Excess: By Joe Brancatelli
> >
> >April 24, 2003 -- You can't watch the unfolding
> saga
> >of corporate greed and malfeasance in the executive
> >suites of the Big Six airlines without immediately
> >thinking of snappy joke lines.
> >
> >You know, stuff like Monkey See, Monkey Steal.
> Flying
> >Pigs at the Trough. Or, my personal favorite:
> >Barbarians at the Boarding Gate.
> >
> >But this is not funny. While the greedy, amoral men
> >who run the nation's largest carriers are looting
> >their airlines, shareholder equity is being
> destroyed,
> >good jobs are being lost, surviving rank-and-filers
> >must bear draconian pay cuts, taxpayer dollars are
> >being squandered and the nation is watching a huge
> >portion of its airline infrastructure disintegrate.
> >
> >It is a disgusting display. The buccaneers who run
> the
> >nation's Big Six carriers are the American
> equivalent
> >of the street mobs who looted the Baghdad Museum of
> >its cultural treasures.
> >
> >There's no difference between Delta chief executive
> >Leo Mullin, who paid himself $100,000 in cash
> bonuses
> >for every $100 million the carrier lost last year,
> and
> >a street thug who stole a priceless Sumerian pot
> from
> >the Baghdad Museum. United chief executive Glenn
> >Tilton, who lived in an $18,000-a-month condo on
> the
> >company tab while the airline was hemorrhaging $20
> >million a day during the winter, is no
> >less reprehensible than the looter who carried
> >Babylonian treasures out of the broken front doors
> of
> >the Baghdad Museum.
> >
> >Mullin, Tilton, Continental bully-in-chief Gordon
> >Bethune, the current roster of fools who run
> Northwest
> >and US Airways and even American chairman Don
> Carty,
> >who these days looks more like a lost soul than a
> >master corporate schemer, are all the same. They
> dress
> >better than Baghdad street looters, but their
> >mentality is the same. They are thieves.
> >
> >The men who are running the Big Six into the
> corporate
> >grave form a repugnant Axis of Excess. Nothing
> matters
> >to them except lining their pockets and their
> >retirement portfolios. The Axis of Excess has no
> sense
> >of personal shame, no sense of fiduciary
> >responsibility and absolutely no agenda except
> cashing
> >out.
> >
> >In case your attention has been diverted by the war
> in
> >Iraq or the spreading SARS epidemic, let me give
> you a
> >brief carrier-by-carrier recap of what has been
> >learned as the Big Six have filed their proxy
> >statements, 10-Ks, annual reports and other
> required
> >Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) documents.
> >
> >AMERICAN AIRLINES American's parent, AMR, lost $3.5
> >billion last yearand yesterday it reported a $1
> >billion first-quarter loss. After weeks of
> >negotiations, promises that executives would share
> in
> >sacrifices and threats of a bankruptcy filing, the
> >airline secured $1.8 billion in annual concessions
> >from pilots, mechanics and flight attendants.
> >
> >Then the agreements imploded when American admitted
> in
> >delayed SEC filings that it had shielded some of
> the
> >pensions of the airline's top 45 executives from
> the
> >effects of a bankruptcy filing. The top six
> >executives were also offered "retention bonuses" of
> >nearly twice their base pay to stay with the
> airline.
> >Earlier this week, Carty cancelled the
> retention-bonus
> >plan and apologized for misleading the unions, but
> >he didn't repeal the trust that protects the
> executive
> >pensions nor did he apologize for allowing the
> >executive booty in the first place.
> >
> >Ironically, American has traditionally paid its top
> >executives less than most other airlines and the
> newly
> >disclosed perks pale in comparison to the lush
> >programs offered to top officials of the other
> >carriers.
> >
> >CONTINENTAL AIRLINES After rashly promising that
> >Continental would be in the black by last year's
> >second quarter, the airline reported losses in
> excess
> >of $450 million in 2002. Last week it reported a
> >first-quarter loss of $221 million, sharply higher
> >than last year's first-quarter loss of $166
> million.
> >The airline now admits there is no chance for
> profit
> >this year or 2004, either. How has Continental
> >management reacted to the huge--and, to them,
> >unexpected--losses?
> >
> >Well, Bethune gave himself a pay package of about
> $7.6
> >million last year, more than 82 percent above his
> 2001
> >compensation. Along with stock options and other
> >perks, Bethune's 2002 compensation was $11.9
> >million. The airline's other top executives were
> >proportionately rewarded.
> >
> >DELTA AIR LINES I detailed the lavish awards made
> to
> >Delta's top five executives in a column posted last
> >month:
> >
> ><
>
>http://www.zyworld.com/brancatelli/bf2003/branc032703.htm>
> >.
> >
> >But just to recap: The carrier has lost $2.5
> billion
> >in the last two fiscal years, including $1.3
> billion
> >last year, when Mullin paid himself a $1.4 million
> >cash bonus. The excesses at Delta led Congress
> >to write some minimal rules about executive payouts
> >into its latest airline bailout package, but Mullin
> >and crew seem blind to the rebuke.
> >
> >After taking a cosmetic pay cut last month, Mullin
> >defended the airline's egregious pay packets and
> >"retention" bonuses, claiming he needed to keep the
> >executive team together. In other words, an airline
> >that lost $466 million in this year's first
> >quarter--or the equivalent of more than $5 million
> a
> >day--just can't afford to lose the crack
> >executives who are responsible for the carrier's
> >alarming cash burn.
> >
> >NORTHWEST AIRLINES Northwest was long ago looted by
> >the departed Al Cheechi and by current chairman
> Gary
> >Wilson. During the 1990s, they funneled tens of
> >millions annually out of Northwest to their private
> >companies, claiming the payments were personal
> >management fees. New management is no less abusive,
> >however. The carrier lost $798 million last year,
> yet
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:43:21 -0500
From: Marc Shulman <marc.shulman at utoronto.ca>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] test sail
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Message-ID: <l03130305badc607d407b@[128.100.83.131]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I would like to test sail a Rhodes 22. Is anybody in the area near
Toronto, Canada or Falmouth, Massachusetts willing to take me out for a
short sail and answer questions about the boat?
Marc Shulman
Dr. Marc Shulman
Professor
Immunology Department
Medical Sciences Building, Room 4368
University of Toronto
Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5S 1A8
Tel: (416) 978 6730
Fax: (416) 978 1938
E-mail: marc.shulman at utoronto.ca
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:58:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] SARS Update
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Message-ID: <20030505205852.45569.qmail at web41503.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
We postponed our annual trip to China for obvious
reasons. I fed Fan daily with more bad news but her
parents in China followed the party line (read the
newspapers) until it was too overwhelming to ignore.
Then the truth came out. Now, Beijing has a 911 type
phone number, 120, that you can call if you have SARS
symptoms and need transportation to a treatment
center. During Fan's last weekly phone conversation
with her sister and parents the following story was
told. My sister-in-law has a three year old daughter
who is about the sharpest kid I ever met (smarter than
my own). She ran a slight fever a few days ago and her
parents and grand-parents were quite alarmed. This is
how the conversation went (paraphrased from Mandarin
to English).
Ran Ran, do you feel bad?
No, I feel fine.
But you have a temperature, does your head hurt?
No, I feel fine.
Does your stomach hurt?
No, Mom, I feel fine!
You don't hurt anywhere?
No, I feel fine! Whatever you do, don't call 120!
We think we'll stay here until the dust settles on
this issue.
Brad
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 17:37:50 -0500
From: ellner <ellner at pressenter.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] SARS Update
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.1.20030505173522.00bb3ae8 at pop.pressenter.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Brad: we have friends whose grandchildren WERE in China & they were very
anxious until the little grandbabies arrived safe & sound----and
SARS-less,
in the US (the concern was primarily that if they did somehow contract
SARS, they could only be treated at a CHINESE hospital!!!!) Anyway, the
story has a happy ending......no one's sick, etc.......Mary (I'd wait,
too!)
At 01:58 PM 5/5/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>We postponed our annual trip to China for obvious
>reasons. I fed Fan daily with more bad news but her
>parents in China followed the party line (read the
>newspapers) until it was too overwhelming to ignore.
>Then the truth came out. Now, Beijing has a 911 type
>phone number, 120, that you can call if you have SARS
>symptoms and need transportation to a treatment
>center. During Fan's last weekly phone conversation
>with her sister and parents the following story was
>told. My sister-in-law has a three year old daughter
>who is about the sharpest kid I ever met (smarter than
>my own). She ran a slight fever a few days ago and her
>parents and grand-parents were quite alarmed. This is
>how the conversation went (paraphrased from Mandarin
>to English).
>
>Ran Ran, do you feel bad?
>
>No, I feel fine.
>
>But you have a temperature, does your head hurt?
>
>No, I feel fine.
>
>Does your stomach hurt?
>
>No, Mom, I feel fine!
>
>You don't hurt anywhere?
>
>No, I feel fine! Whatever you do, don't call 120!
>
>We think we'll stay here until the dust settles on
>this issue.
>
>Brad
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 20:08:46 -0400
From: Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] UPS update
To: Rhodes 22 list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030505194827.00b7e678 at mail1.netreach.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
We got to fly the UPS this weekend. Winds were light and variable at the
time. The sail really made a difference in the light air (though it
didn't
do a thing for the variable part ;-) ) I was surprised at how easy it
was
to manage - it's a big sail but the air was so light I didn't bother
with
the winches. The furler base does bump a bit on our solar vent but that
doesn't seem to affect anything. We used the genoa cars and tried it on
most points of sail - sometimes within seconds of each other without
moving
the tiller. We rigged it before we went out and just laid it fully
furled
across the cabin top - the air was so light we didn't need to worry
about
it going anywhere.. It didn't interfere with the genoa. We don't have
our
halyard run aft so I had to go to the cabintop to raise the sail (short
arms) but that was easy as well.
Also got to try out the new outhaul system for the main. What an
improvement!
Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Swan Creek, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 19:52:50 -0500
From: "anima" <anima13 at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] info.
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <00cc01c31369$d1cb20b0$6101a8c0 at yourwg5n33dutv>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Larry,
Where are you living. What have you sailed?
What are you looking at ?
Anne
KY Lake
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Abbott" <laabbott at cushing.org>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:41 AM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] info.
> I received this address from Stan Spitzer. How can I join? Thanks,
Larry
> Abbott
>
> __________________________________________________
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>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 00:02:58 -0400
From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <003e01c31384$624efb60$a8b7fea9 at roger1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Everybody,
I have a job interview with Isotec International, Inc. in Canton, GA
this
Wednesday! Isotec is a small ( about $20 Million Sales/Year ) chemical
company in the urethanes business. The position I'll be interviewing for
is
the head of their Process Engineering Dept. I'd have 6 engineers
reporting
to me. Wish me luck!
I'll be flying into Atlanta International Airport (ATL) around noon, my
job
interviews should be finished by about 5:00 PM, & I'm staying overnight
in
Canton, GA. My flight out leaves ATL airport at 2:00 PM on Thursday. As
I
look at the Georgia state map, it looks like Canton, GA is near Lake
Allatoona & Lake Lanier. I know there are 2 or 3 Rhodes 22 owners on
Lake
Lanier. Are any of you interested in getting together with me on
Wednesday
night &/or Thursday morning? I've been cooresponding with many of you
for
years via the Rhodes list & I'd like to finally meet you.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 23:26:51 -0500
From: Rik Sandberg <sanderico at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <E19Ctse-0005y7-00 at hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Roger,
Good luck, We'll be rootin' for ya'!!
Rik
On Monday 05 May 2003 11:02 pm, you wrote:
> Hi Everybody,
>
> I have a job interview with Isotec International, Inc. in Canton, GA
this
> Wednesday! Isotec is a small ( about $20 Million Sales/Year ) chemical
> company in the urethanes business. The position I'll be interviewing
for
> is the head of their Process Engineering Dept. I'd have 6 engineers
> reporting to me. Wish me luck!
>
> I'll be flying into Atlanta International Airport (ATL) around noon,
my
job
> interviews should be finished by about 5:00 PM, & I'm staying
overnight in
> Canton, GA. My flight out leaves ATL airport at 2:00 PM on Thursday.
As I
> look at the Georgia state map, it looks like Canton, GA is near Lake
> Allatoona & Lake Lanier. I know there are 2 or 3 Rhodes 22 owners on
Lake
> Lanier. Are any of you interested in getting together with me on
Wednesday
> night &/or Thursday morning? I've been cooresponding with many of you
for
> years via the Rhodes list & I'd like to finally meet you.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> __________________________________________________
> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 05:32:15 -0500
From: ellner <ellner at pressenter.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
To: sanderico at earthlink.net, The Rhodes 22 mail list
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.1.20030506053140.00bb3e68 at pop.pressenter.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Good Luck, Roger.......Keep us posted! (thanks for the Boy Scout story!)
maryAt 11:26 PM 5/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Roger,
>
>Good luck, We'll be rootin' for ya'!!
>
>Rik
>
>
>On Monday 05 May 2003 11:02 pm, you wrote:
> > Hi Everybody,
> >
> > I have a job interview with Isotec International, Inc. in Canton, GA
this
> > Wednesday! Isotec is a small ( about $20 Million Sales/Year )
chemical
> > company in the urethanes business. The position I'll be interviewing
for
> > is the head of their Process Engineering Dept. I'd have 6 engineers
> > reporting to me. Wish me luck!
> >
> > I'll be flying into Atlanta International Airport (ATL) around noon,
my
job
> > interviews should be finished by about 5:00 PM, & I'm staying
overnight
in
> > Canton, GA. My flight out leaves ATL airport at 2:00 PM on Thursday.
As
I
> > look at the Georgia state map, it looks like Canton, GA is near Lake
> > Allatoona & Lake Lanier. I know there are 2 or 3 Rhodes 22 owners on
Lake
> > Lanier. Are any of you interested in getting together with me on
Wednesday
> > night &/or Thursday morning? I've been cooresponding with many of
you
for
> > years via the Rhodes list & I'd like to finally meet you.
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > __________________________________________________
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>__________________________________________________
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 05:37:56 -0500
From: "anima" <anima13 at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <01ce01c313bb$8ed52010$6101a8c0 at yourwg5n33dutv>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Roger,
All the best for this interview!
you will be close enough for KY Lake!
Anne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 11:02 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
Hi Everybody,
I have a job interview with Isotec International, Inc. in Canton, GA
this
Wednesday! Isotec is a small ( about $20 Million Sales/Year ) chemical
company in the urethanes business. The position I'll be interviewing for
is
the head of their Process Engineering Dept. I'd have 6 engineers
reporting
to me. Wish me luck!
I'll be flying into Atlanta International Airport (ATL) around noon, my
job
interviews should be finished by about 5:00 PM, & I'm staying overnight
in
Canton, GA. My flight out leaves ATL airport at 2:00 PM on Thursday. As
I
look at the Georgia state map, it looks like Canton, GA is near Lake
Allatoona & Lake Lanier. I know there are 2 or 3 Rhodes 22 owners on
Lake
Lanier. Are any of you interested in getting together with me on
Wednesday
night &/or Thursday morning? I've been cooresponding with many of you
for
years via the Rhodes list & I'd like to finally meet you.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 08:03:23 -0400
From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <000e01c313c7$7fb6c550$a8b7fea9 at roger1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Anne,
Assuming I get the job, I probably won't have much vacation for the 1st
year. So, I doubt I'll be able to make it to KY Lake in 2003.
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: "anima" <anima13 at bellsouth.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
> Roger,
> All the best for this interview!
> you will be close enough for KY Lake!
> Anne
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 11:02 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
>
> Hi Everybody,
>
> I have a job interview with Isotec International, Inc. in Canton, GA
this
> Wednesday! Isotec is a small ( about $20 Million Sales/Year ) chemical
> company in the urethanes business. The position I'll be interviewing
for
is
> the head of their Process Engineering Dept. I'd have 6 engineers
reporting
> to me. Wish me luck!
>
> I'll be flying into Atlanta International Airport (ATL) around noon,
my
job
> interviews should be finished by about 5:00 PM, & I'm staying
overnight in
> Canton, GA. My flight out leaves ATL airport at 2:00 PM on Thursday.
As
I
> look at the Georgia state map, it looks like Canton, GA is near Lake
> Allatoona & Lake Lanier. I know there are 2 or 3 Rhodes 22 owners on
Lake
> Lanier. Are any of you interested in getting together with me on
Wednesday
> night &/or Thursday morning? I've been cooresponding with many of you
for
> years via the Rhodes list & I'd like to finally meet you.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> __________________________________________________
> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>
> __________________________________________________
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>
>
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 08:40:31 -0400
From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <000701c313cc$b0a64a50$0b1feed0 at kroposki>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Roger,
Good luck. You had convinced me that you were not going to
relocate. Canton, Georgia, is a kind of northern suburb of Atlanta
these days. Allatoona is close, but Lanier is quite far. I think that
Bob Keller lives on that side of Atlanta.
You will be pleasantly surprised with the scenery in that part
of Georgia.
Ed K
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 10:02:37 -0400
From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
To: <kroposki at innova.net>, "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <001301c313d8$27892970$a8b7fea9 at roger1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Ed,
I would have preferred not to move, but I've been unemployed for about
13
months. Sometimes, life forces tough choices upon us.
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 8:40 AM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
> Roger,
> Good luck. You had convinced me that you were not going to
> relocate. Canton, Georgia, is a kind of northern suburb of Atlanta
> these days. Allatoona is close, but Lanier is quite far. I think that
> Bob Keller lives on that side of Atlanta.
>
> You will be pleasantly surprised with the scenery in that part
> of Georgia.
> Ed K
>
> __________________________________________________
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>
>
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 07:17:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <20030506141747.94350.qmail at web41508.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Roger,
Good luck with the interview! Just remember the
difference between Yankees and Damn Yankees. Yankees
are people who go to the South. Damn Yankees are
folks like Anne, Rummy, and myself (Stan Spitzer for
that matter). We stayed!
Brad
--- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net> wrote:
> Hi Everybody,
>
> I have a job interview with Isotec International,
> Inc. in Canton, GA this Wednesday! Isotec is a
> small ( about $20 Million Sales/Year ) chemical
> company in the urethanes business. The position
> I'll be interviewing for is the head of their
> Process Engineering Dept. I'd have 6 engineers
> reporting to me. Wish me luck!
>
> I'll be flying into Atlanta International Airport
> (ATL) around noon, my job interviews should be
> finished by about 5:00 PM, & I'm staying overnight
> in Canton, GA. My flight out leaves ATL airport at
> 2:00 PM on Thursday. As I look at the Georgia state
> map, it looks like Canton, GA is near Lake Allatoona
> & Lake Lanier. I know there are 2 or 3 Rhodes 22
> owners on Lake Lanier. Are any of you interested in
> getting together with me on Wednesday night &/or
> Thursday morning? I've been cooresponding with many
> of you for years via the Rhodes list & I'd like to
> finally meet you.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> __________________________________________________
> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
www.rhodes22.org/list
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 10:42:07 -0400
From: "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <410-2200352614427358 at earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Roger,
Will you move your family right away if you take this position? Lake
Allatoona and Lake Lanier are close to Atlanta, but we have people from
that area that keep their boats on Lake Hartwell.
Rummy
> [Original Message]
> From: Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> To: <kroposki at innova.net>; The Rhodes 22 mail list
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: 5/6/2003 9:02:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
> Ed,
>
> I would have preferred not to move, but I've been unemployed for about
13
> months. Sometimes, life forces tough choices upon us.
>
> Roger
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 8:40 AM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
>
> > Roger,
> > Good luck. You had convinced me that you were not going to
> > relocate. Canton, Georgia, is a kind of northern suburb of Atlanta
> > these days. Allatoona is close, but Lanier is quite far. I think
that
> > Bob Keller lives on that side of Atlanta.
> >
> > You will be pleasantly surprised with the scenery in that part
> > of Georgia.
> > Ed K
> >
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 10:43:49 -0400
From: "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
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Brad,
Correction, people from Wisconsin, Minnesota and Michigan are considered
mid-westerners, not Yankee's. There is a huge difference.
Rummy
> [Original Message]
> From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: 5/6/2003 9:18:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
> Roger,
>
> Good luck with the interview! Just remember the
> difference between Yankees and Damn Yankees. Yankees
> are people who go to the South. Damn Yankees are
> folks like Anne, Rummy, and myself (Stan Spitzer for
> that matter). We stayed!
>
> Brad
>
>
> --- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net> wrote:
> > Hi Everybody,
> >
> > I have a job interview with Isotec International,
> > Inc. in Canton, GA this Wednesday! Isotec is a
> > small ( about $20 Million Sales/Year ) chemical
> > company in the urethanes business. The position
> > I'll be interviewing for is the head of their
> > Process Engineering Dept. I'd have 6 engineers
> > reporting to me. Wish me luck!
> >
> > I'll be flying into Atlanta International Airport
> > (ATL) around noon, my job interviews should be
> > finished by about 5:00 PM, & I'm staying overnight
> > in Canton, GA. My flight out leaves ATL airport at
> > 2:00 PM on Thursday. As I look at the Georgia state
> > map, it looks like Canton, GA is near Lake Allatoona
> > & Lake Lanier. I know there are 2 or 3 Rhodes 22
> > owners on Lake Lanier. Are any of you interested in
> > getting together with me on Wednesday night &/or
> > Thursday morning? I've been cooresponding with many
> > of you for years via the Rhodes list & I'd like to
> > finally meet you.
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 11:04:03 -0400
From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] UPS update
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Mary Lou,
Thank you for the report, so far this was the most detailed. It
sounded good. I am waiting for your second installment.
Ed K
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From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 8:09 PM
To: Rhodes 22 list
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] UPS update
We got to fly the UPS this weekend. Winds were light and variable at the
time. The sail really made a difference in the light air (though it
didn't
do a thing for the variable part ;-) ) I was surprised at how easy it
was
to manage - it's a big sail but the air was so light I didn't bother
with
the winches. The furler base does bump a bit on our solar vent but that
doesn't seem to affect anything. We used the genoa cars and tried it on
most points of sail - sometimes within seconds of each other without
moving
the tiller. We rigged it before we went out and just laid it fully
furled
across the cabin top - the air was so light we didn't need to worry
about
it going anywhere.. It didn't interfere with the genoa. We don't have
our
halyard run aft so I had to go to the cabintop to raise the sail (short
arms) but that was easy as well.
Also got to try out the new outhaul system for the main. What an
improvement!
Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Swan Creek, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 11:05:16 -0400
From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] SARS Update
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Brad,
Any more details how you will get the boat to the "Mid West"?
Ed K
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of brad haslett
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 4:59 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] SARS Update
We postponed our annual trip to China for obvious
reasons. I fed Fan daily with more bad news but her
parents in China followed the party line (read the
newspapers) until it was too overwhelming to ignore.
Then the truth came out. Now, Beijing has a 911 type
phone number, 120, that you can call if you have SARS
symptoms and need transportation to a treatment
center. During Fan's last weekly phone conversation
with her sister and parents the following story was
told. My sister-in-law has a three year old daughter
who is about the sharpest kid I ever met (smarter than
my own). She ran a slight fever a few days ago and her
parents and grand-parents were quite alarmed. This is
how the conversation went (paraphrased from Mandarin
to English).
Ran Ran, do you feel bad?
No, I feel fine.
But you have a temperature, does your head hurt?
No, I feel fine.
Does your stomach hurt?
No, Mom, I feel fine!
You don't hurt anywhere?
No, I feel fine! Whatever you do, don't call 120!
We think we'll stay here until the dust settles on
this issue.
Brad
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 11:25:50 EDT
From: SVTRITON at aol.com
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] marine head
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hi all
glad to see we re making progress on the u p s..im anxiously awaiting
more
input from experienced rhodies
my boat was new last year and i never used the head...when i went to
commission it this year i opened the seacock and started pumping.with
the
bowl fill lever in the fill position....nothing happened..no water
intake....before i took the pump apart i thought id better ask if there
is
any other test i should do.... like prime it ?? all input will be
greatly
appreciated
thanks
tom deliberto
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