[Rhodes22-list] Soap Boxes

[General Boats]

Brad/Steve//Bill/ etc.

Brad:  congratulations on the sale of your boat and the purchase of your boat.
While we do not always agree, we do agree that not agreeing has made this list
stand out.  So I will miss your contributions and extensive knowledge, which I
would like to here take advantage of.  Am I correct in understanding that the Vice
President's wife is on the board of directors of the giant contractor that the VP
is giving all that business to?  If so, let's collectively throw Bill a bone: Just
imagine all the endless fun the right would have had if Mrs. Clinton had enjoyed
such a rewarding conflict of interest job.

Steve:  Wonderfully profound.  I do not understand it.  But I am with you.

Bill: You are not supposed to abandoned a ship until it is sinking - we still have
a few more years and need your ballast on the left.  Hang in there and don't take
it too seriously - but if you must, take solace that in a private, off line List
poll, you are in the silent majority.

stan/gbi


Steve Alm wrote:

> Hey Bill,
> Remember that if the boat leans to the left, it's because you're on the
> starboard tack... I have no idea what I mean by that but it sounds profound.
> 8-)  8-)
>
> Please feel free to post your own soap boxing.  But if you use inflammatory
> rhetoric such as "conservative claptrap" you're sinking to their level and
> should expect more starboard cannon fire.
>
> We who sit on the port rail are in the good company of most of the nation's
> great thinkers who occupy most of the professorship positions at the
> colleges and universities in this great country of ours, so take heart and
> let fly!  Don't let that mean old Brad get your goat--don't get mad, get
> even!  8-)
>
> What the republican party needs, for example, is just ONE good poet--the
> poor suckers don't have any.  The great Minnesota thinker, Garrison Keilor,
> has volunteered.  8-)
>
> Roses are red, violet are blue,
> Don't quit the list, Bill,
> Lots of us think like you.
>
> Slim
>
> On 5/27/03 2:19 PM, "Bill Berner" <bberner at optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > I've been prompted to write by Brad's last couple of posts, especially
> > "Rumsfeld apologizes"
> >
> > I started in to write a suggestion that the list charter be modified to ask
> > that members be refrain from soap boxing their political positions.
> >
> > Then I realized that it would be asking for the group to curtail Freedom of
> > Speech.
> >
> > So, I'm left with a conundrum.
> >
> > I am personally sick and tired of the inflammatory conservative claptrap
> > that shows up here.  It's isn't always the substance that irks me so much,
> > but the belligerance, sarcasm and school yard bullying quality of so many of
> > the posts. I have rarely seen any acknowledgement that issues can be
> > multifaceted and complicated.
> >
> > Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like all of the cannon fire comes from the
> > starboard side, and I'm pretty tired of it.
> >
> > Chances are that I'll have to quit the list to resolve the issue, not a
> > choice I easily make.  There has been some good company here, and lot's of
> > good information.
> >
> > Curious to see responses, then I'll shut up and make a decision.
> >
> >
> > Bill Berner
> > 191 South Broadway
> > Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
> >
> > v 914 478 2896
> > f 914 478 3856
> > e BBerner at optonline.net
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of brad haslett
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:37 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rumsfeld Apologizes
> >
> > May 26, 2003
> > Rumsfeld Apologizes for Hyping Saddam Threat
> > (2003-05-26) -- U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald
> > Rumsfeld apologized to Senate Democrats today for
> > pre-war "hyping" of the threat posed by Saddam
> > Hussein's regime.
> >
> > "I'm sorry Senators Biden, Rockefeller, Byrd, Roberts
> > and others," said a contrite Mr. Rumsfeld. "We
> > overestimated the threat posed by a lunatic dictator,
> > who hated the U.S. and Israel, and who paid rewards to
> > families of Palestinian terrorists. In an age when two
> > of the world's tallest buildings can be brought down
> > with tools used by the stockboy at K-Mart, we should
> > have demanded more concrete evidence of exotic weapons
> > of mass destruction. Saddam was helpless as a kitten
> > up a tree."
> >
> > Sen. Rockefeller, D-WV, said Congress must determine
> > whether the administration "intentionally
> > overestimated" Iraq's weapons program, or "just
> > misread it. ... In either case it's a very bad
> > outcome."
> >
> > Mr. Rumsfeld agreed, "What an awful outcome. We deeply
> > regret freeing the Iraqi people from a murderous gang
> > of thugs masquerading in the United Nations as a
> > representative republic. We're sorry that the Iraqi
> > people have discovered thousands of graves of their
> > Saddam-murdered relatives. It's none of our business
> > if people want to live like that."
> >
> >
> >
> >
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