[Rhodes22-list] Soap Boxes

[anima]

Stan,
My message should have had a right when i said left at one point!
Yes, my language deteriorates to the sewer when i am racing...I
am just too competitive!
I will be talking with you later about a few things I need to purchase.
Anne


----- Original Message -----
From: "General Boats" <wwrhodes at rhodes22.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Soap Boxes


> Anne,
>
> Your guy is getting a diamond - in the rough while racing of course - but
a gem.
>
> (Bill, how can you leave after Anne's response - I told you you were in
the (now
> not so) silent majority.
>
> stan/gbi
>
> anima wrote:
>
> > Oh, Saroj,
> > I second that!
> > Gee, Bill, some of us just moan silently but get along.
> > As for me, I would miss you terribly!
> > I am so far left of most of these opinions, but one must
> > persevere. I hear horrendous left messages all day long
> > but simply smile....I spell it "snile" because it is not for
> > me to say at that time...it becomes my own special chuckle
> > for my ride home. It  is like blind dates where you have to
> > snile and be nice but immediately call a gal who knows YOU
> > and discuss the lowdown!
> > I believe gals have this at a more sophisticated level with
> > our experiences. I have learned more from southern two-faced
> > women (whom I have truly depised) than I would like to admit!
> > I have had a very enjoyable time with the Brad-ster and
> > would not give up a moment of time spent with him for
> > he is more laid back than he "sounds" on here. I figure
> > the bark is just louder on this R-22 list. It is his game and keeps
> > him sharp for being a pilot, just as I thrived on far leftist politics
> > to keep me wound up to do 12 hour night shifts in trauma for
> > 23 years. It is a drug, to get down to basics.
> > It IS garbage.
> > Take it that way and glean the cream off the top! YOU deserve it,
> > for you have contributed some of the best!
> > Anne
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Saroj" <saroj at pathfind.net>
> > To: <bberner at optonline.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 4:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Soap Boxes
> >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > I used to think I was a "port-sider".  Now I'm not sure.  Although I
> > dislike
> > > Bush (I really can't stand his whiny voice and the fact that the stock
> > > market plunges every time his face appears on T.V.), I DO support the
Iraq
> > > "war" and I love Colin Powell.  I'm an "old" ex-hippie with a lot of
> > > varied -- good and bad, but always interesting -- experiences under my
> > belt.
> > > However,  I just can't abide the horror that Saddam and his cronies
meted
> > on
> > > the Iraqi people and I'm only sorry that the elder Bush didn't finish
the
> > > job 12 years ago.  What a waste of people and money his lack of action
> > > caused.
> > >
> > > So I don't know that I "fit" in any particular side.  I really don't
care
> > > what others on the list express or not vis a vis political crapola.
> > However
> > > know that there are a number of porties or centerboarders on the list
to
> > > balance out the starboarders.  I suppose you'll find me on one side or
the
> > > other depending on the tack.
> > >
> > > I mainly want to sail, dance, drum, have fun, explore and learn
shit --
> > and
> > > drive my Miata with the top down and the wind blowing my (grey-ish)
hair
> > all
> > > around.  I'm sorry for all of the ills in the world; people who
suffer,
> > etc.
> > > God knows I've had enough of that in my own life and I don't wish it
on
> > > anyone.  However if I could spend the rest of my life cruising around
the
> > > world facing the day to day challenges of sailing and socializing, I
> > > wouldn't care if I never heard another news report.  That's my stand.
As
> > > selfish as it sounds, that's it.  I'm doing whatever I can to make it
> > > happen.
> > >
> > > So I suggest you ignore the political garbage if it doesn't appeal to
you
> > > and take what does and express yourself on the list whenever you feel
so
> > > moved.
> > >
> > > Saroj
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bill Berner" <bberner at optonline.net>
> > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 3:19 PM
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Soap Boxes
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've been prompted to write by Brad's last couple of posts,
especially
> > > > "Rumsfeld apologizes"
> > > >
> > > > I started in to write a suggestion that the list charter be modified
to
> > > ask
> > > > that members be refrain from soap boxing their political positions.
> > > >
> > > > Then I realized that it would be asking for the group to curtail
Freedom
> > > of
> > > > Speech.
> > > >
> > > > So, I'm left with a conundrum.
> > > >
> > > > I am personally sick and tired of the inflammatory conservative
claptrap
> > > > that shows up here.  It's isn't always the substance that irks me so
> > much,
> > > > but the belligerance, sarcasm and school yard bullying quality of so
> > many
> > > of
> > > > the posts. I have rarely seen any acknowledgement that issues can be
> > > > multifaceted and complicated.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like all of the cannon fire comes from
the
> > > > starboard side, and I'm pretty tired of it.
> > > >
> > > > Chances are that I'll have to quit the list to resolve the issue,
not a
> > > > choice I easily make.  There has been some good company here, and
lot's
> > of
> > > > good information.
> > > >
> > > > Curious to see responses, then I'll shut up and make a decision.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bill Berner
> > > > 191 South Broadway
> > > > Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
> > > >
> > > > v 914 478 2896
> > > > f 914 478 3856
> > > > e BBerner at optonline.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of brad
haslett
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:37 PM
> > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rumsfeld Apologizes
> > > >
> > > > May 26, 2003
> > > > Rumsfeld Apologizes for Hyping Saddam Threat
> > > > (2003-05-26) -- U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald
> > > > Rumsfeld apologized to Senate Democrats today for
> > > > pre-war "hyping" of the threat posed by Saddam
> > > > Hussein's regime.
> > > >
> > > > "I'm sorry Senators Biden, Rockefeller, Byrd, Roberts
> > > > and others," said a contrite Mr. Rumsfeld. "We
> > > > overestimated the threat posed by a lunatic dictator,
> > > > who hated the U.S. and Israel, and who paid rewards to
> > > > families of Palestinian terrorists. In an age when two
> > > > of the world's tallest buildings can be brought down
> > > > with tools used by the stockboy at K-Mart, we should
> > > > have demanded more concrete evidence of exotic weapons
> > > > of mass destruction. Saddam was helpless as a kitten
> > > > up a tree."
> > > >
> > > > Sen. Rockefeller, D-WV, said Congress must determine
> > > > whether the administration "intentionally
> > > > overestimated" Iraq's weapons program, or "just
> > > > misread it. ... In either case it's a very bad
> > > > outcome."
> > > >
> > > > Mr. Rumsfeld agreed, "What an awful outcome. We deeply
> > > > regret freeing the Iraqi people from a murderous gang
> > > > of thugs masquerading in the United Nations as a
> > > > representative republic. We're sorry that the Iraqi
> > > > people have discovered thousands of graves of their
> > > > Saddam-murdered relatives. It's none of our business
> > > > if people want to live like that."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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