[Rhodes22-list] Steep Launch Question

[Bill Berner]

Stupid Owners Tricks!

Now that's a great idea, and practical besides.

Kind of a don't let this happen to you.

I'd contribute.  God know's I've got some good ones.

Bill Berner
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Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Tonjes
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 12:11 PM
To: dayz at lisco.com, The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Steep Launch Question

Richard,
I love it when people own up to their mishaps. We should add a nerw section
to the FAQ'S entitles: Stupid tricks owners do."
Don't worry, I have more than my share to offer.

Rummy


> [Original Message]
> From: Richard and Sherry Day <dayz at lisco.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: 5/30/2003 9:38:13 AM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Steep Launch Question
>
> I might add a cautionary note here on steep ramps.  Last summer I had to
use
> a steeper ramp and overshot the bow stop to the side of it.  I dutifully
> raised the centerboard up (I thought)and proceeded to go forward and
> manually move the boat backwards a little and pull it forward to center it
> in line with the bow stop.  When I started to pull forward out of the
water
> I heard a sickening grinding noise.  By over shooting the stop this
allowed
> the centerboard to go pass the axle and prevent it from raising up fully
> into the well.  I did not realize this until it was too late and 3" of the
> bottom of centerboard was ground off when pulling out of water a few feet.
> Hope this calamity helps others to be mindful of potential pitfalls.
> Richard Day
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Wally Buck
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:12 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Steep Launch Question
>
>
> Dan,
>
> To clarify we stop and push the boat back when just the aft end is
starting
> to float. We try to stop before it floats to much pinching the bow on the
> roller. We have to push pretty hard to slide the boat back then we back in
> just a tounch more and keep pushing (pulling)  the boat back. We only do
> this when the ramp is steep,. With a decent ramp there is usually no
> problem.
>
> Coming back out of a steep ramp creates additional problems but this has
> worked for us with the R22 as well as other boats. Having the motor ready
to
> fire up could help as well.
>
> good luck,
>
> Wally
>
>
> >From: "Julie Thorndycraft" <julie at circle7.net>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Steep Launch Question
> >Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 07:43:48 -0500
> >
> >Wally--
> >
> >Thanks for the suggestion and the words of encouragement for Julie.
> >
> >The launch speed is a detail missing from our initial description of the
> >inaugural launch: I was backing the trailer into the water very, very
> >slowly
> >before the boat came in contact with the bow stop and broke it. We also
had
> >people manning dock lines on both sides of the boat as it backed down the
> >ramp.
> >
> >The boat may have been slightly askew on the trailer from the long haul
> >from
> >Edenton to Minnetonka. Could that be a factor? If so, is there a solution
> >for righting such a heavy boat on the trailer?
> >
> >Would it be prudent to have someone in the boat to lower the motor and
> >start
> >it up as soon as the stern is afloat, then put it in reverse? We see
power
> >boats do that.
> >
> >Finally, would the type of bow stop make a difference? Would a roller
stop
> >be better than a V-shaped stop, or is that not the purpose of a roller
> >stop?
> >It looks as though a roller stop has to be mounted on a bracket, which
> >would
> >not be as strong as the square steel that supports the V-stop. Is hard
> >rubber the best material for the bow stop? Boating catalogs also sell
> >mon-marking polypropylene V-shaped bow stops and roller bow stops.
> >
> >Dan (and Julie)
> >s/v Blue Loon
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 6:57 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Steep Launch Question
> >
> >
> > > Julie,
> > >
> > > As one who has broken ribs on two different occasions I feel your
pain.
> >I
> > > hope you have a quick recovery.
> > >
> > > Regarding launch I am not sure my trailer is set up the same why but
in
> >the
> > > past with deep ramps we have backed in very slowly. When we got close
to
> >the
> > > point of the boat floating we let the bow line going to the winch out
so
> > > there was some slack. Then we backed a little more until the boat just
> > > started to float and pushed the boat off the trailer. If it needed to
> >float
> > > more we would back in just a tad more.
> > >
> > > It has worked for me on several different boats. Go slow!
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > > Wally
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Julie Thorndycraft" <julie at circle7.net>
> > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Steep Launch Question
> > > >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 22:47:18 -0500
> > > >
> > > >With the patient and generous help of Steve Alm (aka Slim), our newly
> > > >delivered recycled Rhodes 22, Blue Loon, was rigged yesterday and
> >launched
> > > >today on Lake Minnetonka just outside of Minneapolis. The launch was
at
> >a
> > > >marina used mostly by keelboats and they generally use a
> >travelift/sling
> >to
> > > >drop them in the water rather than from trailers. Because of the
this,
> >the
> > > >ramp is short and very steep.
> > > >
> > > >We ran into a problem with the stern floating completely and the
front
> > > >still resting on the bunks. The angle forced the bow onto the
V-shaped
> > > >rubber bow stop on the trailer, popping it off completely and
dropping
> >the
> > > >bow onto the metal support underneath - end result:  the boat now
has a
> > > >long, deep scratch on her previously unblemished new paint job.
> > > >
> > > >Prior to the launch the bow was 4-5 inches away from the bow stop and
> >the
> > > >support arm was retracted. The marina manager suggested that we may
> >have
> > > >had better success had we moved the bow support arm out so that it
was
> > > >actually touching the boat before we started and tying a line from
the
> >bow
> > > >eye to the the support to keep in snug. I'm not convinced that that
> >would
> > > >have made a difference.
> > > >
> > > >Does anyone else have any experience launching with short, steep
ramps
> >and
> > > >suggestions about avoiding future mishaps like this?
> > > >
> > > >Slim - if you want to add a more detailed explanation, please feel
> >free.
> > > >
> > > >On a more positive note, the new Yamaha that we got from Stan (9.9
> > > >extra-long shaft) fired up and ran beautifully. Steve and Dan
enjoyed a
> > > >nice but somewhat calm sail on Blue Loon's maiden voyage under new
name
> >and
> > > >new sails.  They also tested out the 'new' modified IMF batten sail
but
> > > >you'll probably have to wait for a stronger wind to get a report on
how
> > > >well it functions.
> > > >
> > > >I unfortunately had to stay on shore and watch - I was in a major
auto
> > > >pile-up on Friday and spent the holiday weekend in the hospital. My
> >sailing
> > > >season will have to wait until my broken ribs have some time to mend.
> > > >
> > > >Julie (and Dan)
> > > >S/V Blue Loon ('96 Rhodes 22, recycled April 2003)
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