[Rhodes22-list] smooth bottoms

Tue Nov 25 06:09:23 EST 2003

Jim
Its more like this.  Without wax, the water is not
running off.  Actually, there is a layer of water all
over the car.  Even when the car is moving, the water
is layered on the car.  This layer of water creates
drag when the car is trying to slice thru the wind.  

Waxed Car, the water is beading up but NOT sticking to
the car.  When the car is moving, the water run off
without ever adhearing to the car.  The the wind hits
the beads of water, it can easily push them out of the
way, creating less drag.

The wet sanding is good to get the inperfections out
of the hull.  However, I would follow up with some
Polish with Tefron additive.  It will increase your
speed.
Steve

--- Jim Mowrey <jmowrey at earthlink.net> wrote:
> I believe that a waxed hull is actually slower. It
> was explained to me this
> way: when you wax your car, and it rains, water
> beads up on the finish. If
> the car hasn't been waxed, the water runs right off.
> You don't want the
> water to "cling" to your hull, but rather to flow
> smoothly around it. Some
> racers I know actually wet sand their hulls
> periodically with 600 grit &
> finer wet/dry paper. They claim that's the best way
> to improve speed. I
> dunno...
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] smooth bottoms
> 
> 
> > Peter
> > A wax hull is faster than just fibreglass. 
> Fibreglass
> > is pourous and will absorb water and it don't take
> > long for slime to build on it.
> >
> > A good hard coat of antifouling paint either spray
> or
> > hand brushed is best.  Never roll your antifouling
> > paint.  Those bums created by rolling it is a
> haven
> > for slime.
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Peter Thorn <pthorn at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> > > Ed,
> > >
> > > Thanks, I'll nose around there.
> > >
> > > On my racing dinghies, we don't use waxes as
> they
> > > are considered slow.  Just
> > > a clean, hard, smooth "wetting" surface is
> > > considered best.  The beading up
> > > of water on a waxed surface messes up laminar
> flow,
> > > I'm told -- although it
> > > might keep the hull cleaner.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:42 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics on the
> list.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Peter,
> > > > In the past, there has been wide discussion of
> > > bottom paints
> > > > including Teflon based.  At least one of the
> guys
> > > who sails(ed) on the
> > > > great lakes used it.  You might check the
> archives
> > > if he does not
> > > > respond.
> > > > Keep in mind that a hard smooth finish would
> allow
> > > use of racing
> > > > waxes.
> > > >            Ed K
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > > Behalf Of Peter Thorn
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:10 PM
> > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics on the
> list.
> > > >
> > > > Gang,
> > > >
> > > > Mark Kaynor has it right, as far as I'm
> concerned.
> > >  Let's hear more
> > > > about
> > > > boats and sailing.
> > > >
> > > > I've got an '84 fixer upper R22 sitting on
> shoring
> > > supports in my side
> > > > yard
> > > > waiting patiently for  a "make-over".  So far,
> I
> > > only managed to demo
> > > > the
> > > > interior down to bare hull.  I expect the
> > > "Phoenix" is going to be a
> > > > long
> > > > project.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone out there drysail?  Has anyone
> tried
> > > Interlux Performance
> > > > Epoxy
> > > > with teflon bottom paint?
> > > >
> > > > PT
> > > > s/v Phoenix
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> > > > To: <sanderico at earthlink.net>; "The Rhodes 22
> mail
> > > list"
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:20 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics on the
> list.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Rik,
> > > > >
> > > > > Good points. And I agree, for the most part.
> > > > >
> > > > > For me, however, it's more of a
> signal-to-noise
> > > issue than it is about
> > > > any
> > > > > particular political (or whatever)
> viewpoint. I
> > > already have to deal
> > > > with
> > > > an
> > > > > ever increasing amount of unsolicited email,
> and
> > > when the list
> > > > contains
> > > > way
> > > > > more "noise" than "signal", I become tempted
> to
> > > sign off. My wife quit
> > > > the
> > > > > list shortly after joining because there was
> so
> > > much off-topic
> > > > discussion.
> > > > > I've been able to hang in here so far -
> heck, I
> > > even enjoy it
> > > > sometimes,
> > > > to
> > > > > be perfectly honest. Nevertheless, my
> primary
> > > interest here is the
> > > > exchange
> > > > > of info about our boats, and when that's
> either
> > > lacking or getting
> > > > drowned
> > > > > in the noise, the list becomes less valuable
> to
> > > me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark Kaynor
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > >
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On
> > > Behalf Of Rik Sandberg
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:24 PM
> > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics on the
> > > list.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To all on the Rhodes list,
> > > > >
> > > > > We've all been here, done this, most of us
> more
> > > than once.
> > > > >
> > > > > To those who would be the Topic Police, I
> would
> > > point you to the
> > > > Rhodes
> > > > List
> > > > > Charter. Michael will probably post a link
> to it
> > > any minute now. When
> > > > you
> > > > > get
> > > > > to the part where it says "any topics of
> > > interest to Rhodes sailors",
> > > > you
> > > > > will have found the key words. You can (and
> just
> > > might) say that I may
> > > > be
> > > > > out
> > > > > of place here, being merely a former owner
> now,
> > > but most of the reason
> > > > I
> > > > > still hang out here is because this list
> doesn't
> > > have all of the
> > > > stuffy
> > > > boat
> > > > > topic only related rules that are found on
> most
> > > lists. We actually get
> > > > to
> > > > do
> > > > > something besides answer the same old boat
> > > questions over and over
> > > > when we
> > > > > come here. This makes this list much more
> > > interesting and fun to hang
> > > > out
> > > > > at,
> > > > > than most.
> > > > >
> > > > > I do agree with Rummy that it would be good
> to
> > > be careful that our
> > > > posts
> > > > are
> > > > > not hurtful. But then again, Some people's
> > > feelings seem to get hurt
> > > > overly
> > > > > easily. Let's be real here, for every
> "Democrat"
> > > joke that's ever been
> > > > > posted
> > > > > here, there one just like it with
> "Republican"
> > > in the punch line. It's
> > > > > politics, if you didn't laugh at it, you
> would
> > > surely have to cry. If
> > > > you
> > > > > are
> > > > > going to take all this stuff seriously,
> you're
> > > in for a life full of
> > > > hurt
> > > > > feelings.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rik Sandberg
> > > > > S/V Happy Little Girls 2 - PS Flicka
> > > > > Formerly, S/V Country Rhodes - R 22
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/24/2003 11:53 am, you wrote:
> > > > > > Here, here, Rummy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > People who have things to say or relay
> that do
> > > not pertain to the
> > > > title
> > > > of
> > > > > > this list (Rhodes22), should take it
> > > elsewhere.  Common curtesy goes
> > > > a
> > > > > long
> > > > > > way to keeping people interested in any
> > > exchange, even on the
> > > > Internet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fred
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a message dated 11/24/03 12:20:40 PM
> > > Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > R22RumRunner at aol.com writes:
> > > > > > > I have expressed my political views on
> the
> > > list previously (I have
> > > > none)
> > > > > > > so
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm not offended by these jokes or cheap
> > > shots or whatever you
> > > > want to
> > > > > > > call them. That being said, I feal that
> the
> > > recent flurry of jokes
> > > > are
> > > > > > > not only flamming, but unkind.
> > > > > > > I really wish you people would do this
> kind
> > > of stuff OFF the list.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rummy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
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