[Rhodes22-list] Firm Price

[Bill Effros]

You don't really want a firm price.  Stan wants you to have as much boat 
as you can possibly afford, and will start throwing things in if you 
don't pester.

Go in the other direction.  Decide what is the absolute most you can 
pay, and get from the bank.  Then work with Stan to stay within that 
budget.  The boat will be worth more than the bank needs it to be worth.

There are 200 people on this list who will tell you, you won't be 
disappointed with what you get.  If this is the boat you want, get one 
with the most unique features you want, that you can afford.  A recycled 
hull with rebuilt or brand new parts (your choice) and every option you 
want, is better than a brand new boat, if buying brand new means you 
must give up options you want. The hulls have been very well made for 
the past 25 years.  If Stan says the hull is good, the hull is good.

I bought my boat brand new in 1998.  I plan to recycle my own boat this 
year to get options that were not available or that I did not select the 
first time around.  I could sell my boat (they retain their value very 
well--used boats have sold for more than you will probably pay for your 
new boat) and get a brand spanking new boat.  But I wouldn't even 
consider it.  My 1998 hull is in perfect condition.  At the end of the 
day I will have exactly what I want, at a price I am more than willing 
to pay.

You will, too.  Pick the number first.  Then work with Stan to get the 
most out of that number that you possibly can.  Be fair with Stan, and 
he will be fair with you.

It's an old-fashioned way of doing business, but it sure is sweet.

Bill Effros

pestyone57 wrote:

>To answer your question,
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>The kidneys serve two major functions: they keep the salt content of the blood constant, and they filter waste out of the bloodstream. So, the main components of urine are (salt) water and waste products. The major waste product from cells in the body is ammonia, and the major waste product from blood is a broken form of heme called bilirubin. In the liver, each of these is converted into a less hazardous form: ammonia is converted to urea, and bilirubin is degraded to urobilins. Salt, water, and urea are all colorless, but urobilins (which come from degraded pigments) are yellow. So, if you drink a lot, your urine will be more dilute and clearer, and if you get dehydrated, your urine will contain less water and be darker yellow - Information from MadSci Network
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>So urine should freeze at a slightly lower temperature than water, and in the holding tank might take even longer depending on the amount of bacteria in the tank (bacterial action should increase the temperature of the tank).
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>My wife and I are looking into buying a New or Recycled Rhodes 22.  I saw and had a "test-drive" at the St. Petersburg, Fl boat show while I was stationed at USCENTCOM (I am an activated reservist).  Since we will have to finance the lion's share of the cost, I wanted to investigate financing but when I e-mail Stan about prices, I receive nebulous answers.  How do I go about getting a firm price to present to the bank?
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>Thanks,
>
>Philip and Deena Esteban
>Virginia
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>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "brad haslett" <flybrad at yahoo.com>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 5:40 AM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing - Highly Technical Question
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>>Rummy,
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>>Actually, it needs pumped out anyway.  On warm days it
>>is starting to smell like the bar I stop at on the way
>>home from the lake.  I've been adding a quart of "blue
>>stuff" from WalMart about once a month but after last
>>Spring's cruise with 5 college seniors it has about
>>met the limit of better living through chemistry.
>>
>>We seldom get several sub 32 degree days here but
>>about once a year we get an ice-storm and about every
>>5 years it knocks power out in parts of the state. 
>>December is pretty booked for me but I plan to do some
>>January sailing on the 40 degree plus days, which
>>there should be many.
>>
>>My best friend of thirty years started driving down
>>from Southern Illinois and spending weekends on the
>>boat.  He liked the area so much we started looking
>>for real-estate together.  Last week we bought a 1900
>>square foot commercial shop building on 2 acres about
>>five minutes from the boat.  He may build an apartment
>>in it or just put a mobile home on the property. 
>>Either way, next season we should have a place to stay
>>for extended periods.  Since we have plenty of room
>>for work and storage we will probably start shopping
>>for a project boat.  I'd like to find an old run-about
>>with a small block V-8 that we can rebuild. Let me
>>know if you run across anything that looks
>>interesting.
>>
>>Brad
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>>--- R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
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>>>Brad,
>>>I assume you are talking about a holding tank.
>>>Generally speaking, the  
>>>biological action and the warmth generated from the
>>>heat still in the lake will  
>>>prevent it from freezing. I would think you would
>>>require many sub 32 degree  
>>>days to get it cold enough to freeze hard.
>>>I have a porta-potti on Rum Runner and never worry
>>>about it or the water  
>>>tank freezing as long as the boat is in the water.
>>>You are a little further  
>>>north than I am, so pumping it out beats replacing
>>>it in the spring. :)
>>> 
>>>Rummy
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