[Rhodes22-list] Beaufort, SC

[Bob Keller]

Bill,
Seems to make some sense, but where do you store the long sleeve while 
trailering?
Bob

>From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
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>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Beaufort, SC
>Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 16:12:00 -0500
>
>Slim,
>
>Salt water changes the equation.  We hose them down, pressure spray them, 
>and pray when it comes time to use them again if we leave them in the 
>sleeve for 1/2 year.  A small sledge hammer is standard equipment, often 
>required.
>
>Some people, in years gone by, have even required welders to cut open the 
>sleeves so extension arms could be moved.  When the inside of the sleeves 
>rust they make the opening smaller causing the extension bar to seize even 
>if it is well lubricated.  The rust can knock all the lubricant off.--and 
>you can't see what's going on inside the sleeve so you don't know whether 
>to push or pull.
>
>Having said that, I negligently left my long extension bar in the sleeve 
>for the entire summer this year.  A few wacks with a rubber mallet was all 
>it took to free it.  I lubricated the exposed sections of the arm so each 
>section lubricated the sleeve for the next.  It slid out as easily as I'm 
>sure yours slides routinely.  But the anxiety is no worth it.  I've spent 
>hours freeing the bar in years gone by.  It is tiring, and leads to other 
>mistakes.  Working with one short and one long avoids ever needing to slide 
>the long all the way through the sleeve.
>
>Bill Effros
>
>Steve Alm wrote:
>
>>Bill,
>>Can I ask a dumb question?  Why have two extension bars?  Mine slides all
>>the way in and locks in place with the pins through the holes.  Pull the
>>pins and pull out the extension.  One size fits all.  I keep it lubed a
>>little but I keep it stowed in its sleeve in the "short" position.  Maybe
>>you have to fuss with yours more because of the salt water?
>>Slim
>>
>>On 12/3/04 2:26 PM, "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Bob,
>>>
>>>Like Rummy, I like long wheel base, heavy tow vehicles.  All the other
>>>problems go away when you have one of these.  And since you actually
>>>take advantatage of the ability to tow your boat, I would recommend this
>>>as the best solution to the towing problems you have been encountering.
>>>The tandem cab Toyota Tundra is a hell of a truck that can be configured
>>>with a car-like passenger compartment.  I have the long bed, short cab
>>>because that is what I need.  My wife has no difficulty driving it.  It
>>>is comfortable and quiet.
>>>
>>>With regard to the extension bar, store it outside the trailer sleeve
>>>during the time it is not in use.  You can lay it across the axel and
>>>frame.  Lubricate it well every time you insert it into the trailer
>>>sleeves.  I use both WD-40 and Boeing.  Once both the sleeve and the
>>>extension arm are well lubricated, and protected from rust by the
>>>Boeing, the apparatus will consistently function as designed.
>>>
>>>Alternatively, get a "Shorty" from Stan, or have one made.  A short
>>>extension with holes in the proper places that can be easily inserted
>>>and removed for moving the boat around the yard.  Remove it  to insert
>>>the longer extension arm for ramp duty..  Store both outside the sleeve
>>>when not in use.  Repeatedly lubricate both extensions and the inside of
>>>the sleeve.
>>>
>>>Bill Effros
>>>
>>>Bob Keller wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>OK.  I did not use the extendable tongue while launching because the
>>>>tide was out, plus my tongue is a PITA to extend.  The trailer went
>>>>off the end of the ramp and the bow of the boat went straight down as
>>>>it came off the trailer and the rub rail hit the bow stop, knocking
>>>>the rub rail off.  Not just the rubber insert, but the plastic rub
>>>>rail assembly broke off the screws holding it in place.  This was an
>>>>easy fix when I got home-larger screws with a washer of course.  But
>>>>when retrieving the boat I had to use the tongue because the tide was
>>>>in and all was well until I got to the top of the ramp.  My extended
>>>>tongue rides almost on the ground when extended with the boat on the
>>>>trailer.  This is because I have to overload tongue weight on the
>>>>single axle trailer to prevent fishtailing at highway speeds.  Some
>>>>(actually one - Rummy) has suggested that this is because my tow
>>>>vehicle is not large enough (Toyota 4Runner-5,000# capacity).
>>>>Regardless, the tongue scraped against the ground where the ramp
>>>>transitions to level ground and this has happened before and I have
>>>>just ignored it.  So, I ignored it again, but it got worse, and scared
>>>>the hell out of the horses looking on (for carriage rides) and then I
>>>>realized that it wasn't going to work and stopped.  While the carriage
>>>>owners scrambled after the horses to calm them down, I backed up and
>>>>then realized that I would have a hard time getting the tongue back
>>>>in.  Several dozen whacks with a large rock that I always trailer with
>>>>had the tongue back in, but it is never coming out again!  Lots of
>>>>operator error in this story.
>>>>
>>>>So, I am in the market for a dual axle trailer and a larger tow
>>>>vehicle before any more trips...
>>>>Bob K
>>>>Yankee Clipper
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Beaufort, SC
>>>>>Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:11:00 -0500
>>>>>
>>>>>Bob,
>>>>>    Great pictures.  I think you saw more sailboats than I did.  Mine
>>>>>were scattered along the waterfront.
>>>>>    Now tell us what is bent on your trailer.  Is it the extension?
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed K
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bob Keller
>>>>>Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 6:55 PM
>>>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Beaufort, SC
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed,
>>>>>Going to try again.  Just wrote a long recap of the trip and then
>>>>>lost it
>>>>>all trying to attach photos!  Ouch.
>>>>>
>>>>>Went to Beaufort two weeks ago and it is quite a nice destination (see
>>>>>picture #799).  The downtown marina is the place to go - nice
>>>>>facility and
>>>>>people and reasonably priced.  The boat ramp is good, but very steep
>>>>>and I
>>>>>managed to bend my trailer tongue upon retrieval, but that is another
>>>>>story...  See picture #801 for the Yankee Clipper at the downtown
>>>>>marina.
>>>>>
>>>>>The swing bridge on the northside of the ICW from Beaufort has 30 foot
>>>>>clearance (see picture #810) and does not open betweeen 4-6PM, so I
>>>>>decided
>>>>>not to go there because if I was sailing on the Broad River and St.
>>>>>Helena
>>>>>Sound I would probably miss the 4PM opening and then have to wait
>>>>>around in
>>>>>the dark for it to open.  Instead I went south down the Beaufort River,
>>>>>which is much wider in this direction, past Parris Island (see
>>>>>picture #797)
>>>>>
>>>>>and to Port Royal Sound - an impressive body of water.  On Monday
>>>>>(day 1) I
>>>>>was out on the sound and had 16 knots of wind and was sailing on a 
>>>>>close
>>>>>reach and hit 6.5 knots of boat speed (knotmeter) which is an
>>>>>all-time high
>>>>>for me while singlehanding.  I had the pop-top down but all the sails
>>>>>out,
>>>>>including the full 175 genoa and the Yankee Clipper was flying
>>>>>without much
>>>>>heeling in 16 knots of true wind.  Pretty amazing, but it helps when
>>>>>it is
>>>>>not gusting but steady.  There were dolphins and porpoises all around
>>>>>me- I
>>>>>was literally surrounded by them.  Unfortunately, that was the last
>>>>>day that
>>>>>
>>>>>I had good wind.
>>>>>
>>>>>Day 2 I went to Hilton Head (had a business meeting there) and had to
>>>>>motor
>>>>>all the way - it took 4.5 hours to get to there.  Have to cross Port
>>>>>Royal
>>>>>Sound and enter at Skull Creek (picture #813).  I stayed at Palmetto 
>>>>>Bay
>>>>>Marina which is on Broad Creek which literally cuts HH in half from
>>>>>Calibogue Sound.  Total distance from Beaufort to this marina is 24
>>>>>nm.  The
>>>>>
>>>>>currents in the ICW take some getting used to - they seemed to peak
>>>>>at 2.5
>>>>>knots at mid-tide and less at either side, but they are significant.
>>>>>The
>>>>>Palmetto Bay Marina is a low key, inexpensive marina in between the
>>>>>two more
>>>>>
>>>>>popular and much more expensive marinas: Harbor Town and Shelter
>>>>>Cove.  I
>>>>>found it to be excellent because it is half the price of Harbor Town
>>>>>and is
>>>>>much closer to the Sound than Shelter Cove.  This was great the next 
>>>>>day
>>>>>when I took some people from work out for an afternoon sail on 
>>>>>Calibogue
>>>>>Sound.  Only 5-8 knots of wind, but it was nice and relaxing and we
>>>>>saw lots
>>>>>
>>>>>more dolphins.  Would have gone out in the ocean that day but ran out 
>>>>>of
>>>>>daylight.
>>>>>
>>>>>Left for Beaufort the next day and got back (motoring again) in 4 hours
>>>>>thanks to some favorable currents.  The highlight of this trip was
>>>>>when I
>>>>>was up at the bow winding up my sheets and a dolphin came right
>>>>>toward the
>>>>>boat and then turned and started swimming in my bow wake.  I bent
>>>>>down and
>>>>>considered touching him, but instead I just looked at him as he was 
>>>>>only
>>>>>about 3 or four feet away from me.  He rolled on his side and looked
>>>>>up at
>>>>>me, then turned back over, blew out his blow hole and sprayed me with
>>>>>water.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Then he took off!  Pretty amazing as I felt like he was messing
>>>>>with me.
>>>>>
>>>>>Overall, Beaufort is a nice destination, but especially since Hilton
>>>>>Head is
>>>>>
>>>>>so accessible by boat from there.  Last year I went to HH by boat from
>>>>>Savannah (Thunderbolt, actually) and Beaufort is far better - nicer
>>>>>facilities and a more interesting, scenic and sailable route to HH.  
>>>>>The
>>>>>route from Savannah is very narrow ICW where you cannot really sail.
>>>>>
>>>>>Picture #807 is a sunset over the anchorage in Beaufort.
>>>>>
>>>>>Now I just need a new trailer for my next trip...
>>>>>Bob K
>>>>>Yankee Clipper
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>>>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Capt. Bob Keller
>>>>>>Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 19:59:38 -0500
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mr. Rummy said y6ou were sailing on Lake Hartwell on Saturday.  He 
>>>>>>said
>>>>>>last
>>>>>>week that you were sailing at Beaufort, SC.  Is any of this is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>true?  I can
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>understand Rummy speaking for Rodger (with a D) because he does not
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>have
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>internet access.  Surely, if what Rummy is saying, you can let us
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>know, and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>maybe post a picture or two or three or ........
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ed K
>>>>>>~~~~ _/) ~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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