[Rhodes22-list] Beaufort, SC
Bill Effros
bill at effros.com
Fri Dec 3 18:29:24 EST 2004
Some people make a bracket on the frame and carry them in the bracket.
I don't actually have a shorty, but I think I will get one. I leave the
extension arm out of the sleeve when not in use. Then you can see
inside the sleeve, and chip away at it before inserting the extension,
which further smooths the surface, lubricates it, and leaves behind rust
inhibitor.
All of this makes it easier from year to year to keep the system
properly conditioned. Still, I would prefer not to find I had left the
arm inside the sleeve for an extended period of time, and might have to
deal with a problem.
Bill Effros
Bob Keller wrote:
> Bill,
> Seems to make some sense, but where do you store the long sleeve while
> trailering?
> Bob
>
>> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Beaufort, SC
>> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 16:12:00 -0500
>>
>> Slim,
>>
>> Salt water changes the equation. We hose them down, pressure spray
>> them, and pray when it comes time to use them again if we leave them
>> in the sleeve for 1/2 year. A small sledge hammer is standard
>> equipment, often required.
>>
>> Some people, in years gone by, have even required welders to cut open
>> the sleeves so extension arms could be moved. When the inside of the
>> sleeves rust they make the opening smaller causing the extension bar
>> to seize even if it is well lubricated. The rust can knock all the
>> lubricant off.--and you can't see what's going on inside the sleeve
>> so you don't know whether to push or pull.
>>
>> Having said that, I negligently left my long extension bar in the
>> sleeve for the entire summer this year. A few wacks with a rubber
>> mallet was all it took to free it. I lubricated the exposed sections
>> of the arm so each section lubricated the sleeve for the next. It
>> slid out as easily as I'm sure yours slides routinely. But the
>> anxiety is no worth it. I've spent hours freeing the bar in years
>> gone by. It is tiring, and leads to other mistakes. Working with
>> one short and one long avoids ever needing to slide the long all the
>> way through the sleeve.
>>
>> Bill Effros
>>
>> Steve Alm wrote:
>>
>>> Bill,
>>> Can I ask a dumb question? Why have two extension bars? Mine
>>> slides all
>>> the way in and locks in place with the pins through the holes. Pull
>>> the
>>> pins and pull out the extension. One size fits all. I keep it lubed a
>>> little but I keep it stowed in its sleeve in the "short" position.
>>> Maybe
>>> you have to fuss with yours more because of the salt water?
>>> Slim
>>>
>>> On 12/3/04 2:26 PM, "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bob,
>>>>
>>>> Like Rummy, I like long wheel base, heavy tow vehicles. All the other
>>>> problems go away when you have one of these. And since you actually
>>>> take advantatage of the ability to tow your boat, I would recommend
>>>> this
>>>> as the best solution to the towing problems you have been
>>>> encountering.
>>>> The tandem cab Toyota Tundra is a hell of a truck that can be
>>>> configured
>>>> with a car-like passenger compartment. I have the long bed, short cab
>>>> because that is what I need. My wife has no difficulty driving
>>>> it. It
>>>> is comfortable and quiet.
>>>>
>>>> With regard to the extension bar, store it outside the trailer sleeve
>>>> during the time it is not in use. You can lay it across the axel and
>>>> frame. Lubricate it well every time you insert it into the trailer
>>>> sleeves. I use both WD-40 and Boeing. Once both the sleeve and the
>>>> extension arm are well lubricated, and protected from rust by the
>>>> Boeing, the apparatus will consistently function as designed.
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively, get a "Shorty" from Stan, or have one made. A short
>>>> extension with holes in the proper places that can be easily inserted
>>>> and removed for moving the boat around the yard. Remove it to insert
>>>> the longer extension arm for ramp duty.. Store both outside the
>>>> sleeve
>>>> when not in use. Repeatedly lubricate both extensions and the
>>>> inside of
>>>> the sleeve.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>
>>>> Bob Keller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> OK. I did not use the extendable tongue while launching because the
>>>>> tide was out, plus my tongue is a PITA to extend. The trailer went
>>>>> off the end of the ramp and the bow of the boat went straight down as
>>>>> it came off the trailer and the rub rail hit the bow stop, knocking
>>>>> the rub rail off. Not just the rubber insert, but the plastic rub
>>>>> rail assembly broke off the screws holding it in place. This was an
>>>>> easy fix when I got home-larger screws with a washer of course. But
>>>>> when retrieving the boat I had to use the tongue because the tide was
>>>>> in and all was well until I got to the top of the ramp. My extended
>>>>> tongue rides almost on the ground when extended with the boat on the
>>>>> trailer. This is because I have to overload tongue weight on the
>>>>> single axle trailer to prevent fishtailing at highway speeds. Some
>>>>> (actually one - Rummy) has suggested that this is because my tow
>>>>> vehicle is not large enough (Toyota 4Runner-5,000# capacity).
>>>>> Regardless, the tongue scraped against the ground where the ramp
>>>>> transitions to level ground and this has happened before and I have
>>>>> just ignored it. So, I ignored it again, but it got worse, and
>>>>> scared
>>>>> the hell out of the horses looking on (for carriage rides) and then I
>>>>> realized that it wasn't going to work and stopped. While the
>>>>> carriage
>>>>> owners scrambled after the horses to calm them down, I backed up and
>>>>> then realized that I would have a hard time getting the tongue back
>>>>> in. Several dozen whacks with a large rock that I always trailer
>>>>> with
>>>>> had the tongue back in, but it is never coming out again! Lots of
>>>>> operator error in this story.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I am in the market for a dual axle trailer and a larger tow
>>>>> vehicle before any more trips...
>>>>> Bob K
>>>>> Yankee Clipper
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Beaufort, SC
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:11:00 -0500
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>> Great pictures. I think you saw more sailboats than I did. Mine
>>>>>> were scattered along the waterfront.
>>>>>> Now tell us what is bent on your trailer. Is it the extension?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed K
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bob Keller
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 6:55 PM
>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Beaufort, SC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>> Going to try again. Just wrote a long recap of the trip and then
>>>>>> lost it
>>>>>> all trying to attach photos! Ouch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Went to Beaufort two weeks ago and it is quite a nice destination
>>>>>> (see
>>>>>> picture #799). The downtown marina is the place to go - nice
>>>>>> facility and
>>>>>> people and reasonably priced. The boat ramp is good, but very steep
>>>>>> and I
>>>>>> managed to bend my trailer tongue upon retrieval, but that is
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> story... See picture #801 for the Yankee Clipper at the downtown
>>>>>> marina.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The swing bridge on the northside of the ICW from Beaufort has 30
>>>>>> foot
>>>>>> clearance (see picture #810) and does not open betweeen 4-6PM, so I
>>>>>> decided
>>>>>> not to go there because if I was sailing on the Broad River and St.
>>>>>> Helena
>>>>>> Sound I would probably miss the 4PM opening and then have to wait
>>>>>> around in
>>>>>> the dark for it to open. Instead I went south down the Beaufort
>>>>>> River,
>>>>>> which is much wider in this direction, past Parris Island (see
>>>>>> picture #797)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and to Port Royal Sound - an impressive body of water. On Monday
>>>>>> (day 1) I
>>>>>> was out on the sound and had 16 knots of wind and was sailing on
>>>>>> a close
>>>>>> reach and hit 6.5 knots of boat speed (knotmeter) which is an
>>>>>> all-time high
>>>>>> for me while singlehanding. I had the pop-top down but all the
>>>>>> sails
>>>>>> out,
>>>>>> including the full 175 genoa and the Yankee Clipper was flying
>>>>>> without much
>>>>>> heeling in 16 knots of true wind. Pretty amazing, but it helps when
>>>>>> it is
>>>>>> not gusting but steady. There were dolphins and porpoises all
>>>>>> around
>>>>>> me- I
>>>>>> was literally surrounded by them. Unfortunately, that was the last
>>>>>> day that
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had good wind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Day 2 I went to Hilton Head (had a business meeting there) and
>>>>>> had to
>>>>>> motor
>>>>>> all the way - it took 4.5 hours to get to there. Have to cross Port
>>>>>> Royal
>>>>>> Sound and enter at Skull Creek (picture #813). I stayed at
>>>>>> Palmetto Bay
>>>>>> Marina which is on Broad Creek which literally cuts HH in half from
>>>>>> Calibogue Sound. Total distance from Beaufort to this marina is 24
>>>>>> nm. The
>>>>>>
>>>>>> currents in the ICW take some getting used to - they seemed to peak
>>>>>> at 2.5
>>>>>> knots at mid-tide and less at either side, but they are significant.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> Palmetto Bay Marina is a low key, inexpensive marina in between the
>>>>>> two more
>>>>>>
>>>>>> popular and much more expensive marinas: Harbor Town and Shelter
>>>>>> Cove. I
>>>>>> found it to be excellent because it is half the price of Harbor Town
>>>>>> and is
>>>>>> much closer to the Sound than Shelter Cove. This was great the
>>>>>> next day
>>>>>> when I took some people from work out for an afternoon sail on
>>>>>> Calibogue
>>>>>> Sound. Only 5-8 knots of wind, but it was nice and relaxing and we
>>>>>> saw lots
>>>>>>
>>>>>> more dolphins. Would have gone out in the ocean that day but ran
>>>>>> out of
>>>>>> daylight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Left for Beaufort the next day and got back (motoring again) in 4
>>>>>> hours
>>>>>> thanks to some favorable currents. The highlight of this trip was
>>>>>> when I
>>>>>> was up at the bow winding up my sheets and a dolphin came right
>>>>>> toward the
>>>>>> boat and then turned and started swimming in my bow wake. I bent
>>>>>> down and
>>>>>> considered touching him, but instead I just looked at him as he
>>>>>> was only
>>>>>> about 3 or four feet away from me. He rolled on his side and looked
>>>>>> up at
>>>>>> me, then turned back over, blew out his blow hole and sprayed me
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> water.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then he took off! Pretty amazing as I felt like he was messing
>>>>>> with me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Overall, Beaufort is a nice destination, but especially since Hilton
>>>>>> Head is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so accessible by boat from there. Last year I went to HH by boat
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> Savannah (Thunderbolt, actually) and Beaufort is far better - nicer
>>>>>> facilities and a more interesting, scenic and sailable route to
>>>>>> HH. The
>>>>>> route from Savannah is very narrow ICW where you cannot really sail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Picture #807 is a sunset over the anchorage in Beaufort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now I just need a new trailer for my next trip...
>>>>>> Bob K
>>>>>> Yankee Clipper
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>>>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Capt. Bob Keller
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 19:59:38 -0500
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mr. Rummy said y6ou were sailing on Lake Hartwell on Saturday.
>>>>>>> He said
>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>> week that you were sailing at Beaufort, SC. Is any of this is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> true? I can
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> understand Rummy speaking for Rodger (with a D) because he does not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> internet access. Surely, if what Rummy is saying, you can let us
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> know, and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> maybe post a picture or two or three or ........
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed K
>>>>>>> ~~~~ _/) ~~~~
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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