[Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes wanabes and List Lurkers

[stan]

Todd,

so nice to know I am understood.

Hmmm, are you available as translator for domestic communications?

stan/ec

---- Original Message ----- 
From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80 at mail.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes wanabes and List Lurkers


   Well, I think Stan made the comment about wannabe's and lurkers as a 
tongue-in-cheek sales pitch and he also (wittingly I am sure) now has a 
noted disclaimer about the quality of the boats built in the mid to late 
1970's, because the hulls were contracted out.   This is not a new bit of 
information to most of us.  I do not think he meant to put any of us project 
boat owners on the defensive.  Besides, the fact that we already have boats, 
and are on the list makes us neither lurkers nor wannabes.  We have decided 
to rebuild these boats for any number of reasons.  Primarily, I made the 
decision because of the reputation of the Rhodes 22 design.  If my boat 
folds up like a dixie cup while sailing, it will be because of my work, and 
no reflection on Stan or GB.    How many $500 Rhodes 22's do you see out 
there?  You can find $500 Mac,s, Catalinas, O'Days, etc. out there all day 
long.  Rebuild one of them and you still have a $500 boat.  Rebuild a $500 
Rhodes 22 and you have a RHODES 22!  Nuf said?





----- Original Message -----
From: b.ivers at att.net
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes wanabes and List Lurkers
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:54:12 +0000

>
> Hi there, I am able to purchase recycled or new boat, but decided
> to buy older 1976 model because I have no other family support.
>   I went in low budget, worked on the boat a little bit. And am
> currantly working on becomming a safe confident sailer. I learn
> every time I go out. Wife is still not completely sold on the idea
> of sailing ,but with two or three positive days on the water I will
> win her over because we have been power boating for 30 years.
>    Then is  the time we will start talking to Stan and putting
> together our plans for new or recycle R-22. Or maybe this boat will
> be just fine and I will make upgrades as needed! If it's good
> enough for Robert Dilk, and Rodger. It can be good enough for me.
> (us)
>    Being a wanabe and a lurker is not all bad. I love my 76, and I
> learn by lurking. Do not post much because I don't know much. Barry
>
>
> -------------- Original message from "Todd Tavares"
> <sprocket80 at mail.com>: --------------
>
>
> > Ditto Roger's post (except for the $90K and engineer part) :-) I
> > guess Sir Stanley wouldn't be inclined to describe the MOC of his
> > fiberglass stringers? I know, I know, but I have to ask anyway.
> > :-D Todd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Pihlaja" To:
> > "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes
> > wanabes and List Lurkers Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 06:04:07 -0500 >
> > > Ben, > > Like the Walgreen's commercials say, "In a perfect
> > world..." But, even when > I was making $K90+/year as an
> > engineer, there were other priorities like > saving for
> > retirement, paying off my house, saving for my kid's college, >
> > etc. that precluded the expense of simply going out and buying a
> > new or > recycled Rhodes 22. We all make choices in our lives. I
> > bought an older > Rhodes 22, worked on it, my sons grew up with
> > the boat, & we've had a lot of > wonderful adventures with it. I
> > suspect all these project boats have more > to do with limited
> > family resources than a desire to rebuild a boat. Yet, > they all
> > want to go sailing someday. If the boat can be a family project >
> > along the way; then, so much the better. Forgive me sir; but, for
> > you to > recommend to these folks that they should go & buy a
> > recycled Rhodes 22 and > then satisfy their desire to work on a
> > boat by building something like an > epoxy cedar strip canoe in
> > their garage strikes me as incredibly > insensitive. Good grief
> > man, can't you read between the lines & see what's > going on
> > here? > > Roger Pihlaja > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium > > ----- 
> > Original Message ----- > From: "Ben Schultz" > To: "cjlowe" ;
> > "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > > Cc: "stan" > Sent: Friday, December
> > 10, 2004 11:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes
> > wanabes and List Lurkers > > > > Here's my advice to would-be
> > boat builders: First, get a recycled > > Rhodes. It's true that
> > you want a sailboa to sail. Second, pick > > another boat that
> > you might like to have, buy some plans, clear out some > > garage
> > space, and start working on it. I've got the shell of a cedar > >
> > strip canoe hogging the space in my one-car garage, much to the >
> > > admiral's display. It gives me something to do at night when
> > I'm not in > > the mood to sit around the house or be around
> > people. It gives me great > > pleasure to head out to the garage,
> > light a cigar, fix a drink, and go > > connect some wood or sand
> > a surface smooth. In fact, if I ween't > > waiting on an order of
> > fiberglass cloth, I would probably be out there > now. > > > >
> > The beauty of this is that there is no hurry or stress related to
> > the > > project boat. When I get busy at work or with a household
> > project, the > > canoe might go untouched for a couple of months.
> > In fact, I started > > cutting out the molds almost two years
> > ago. It's a fun hobby. In fact, > > it makes me envy Stan,
> > getting to build boats all day. I guess every > > man's hobby is
> > someone else's job. > > > > Give it a whirl, > > Ben > > > >
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