[Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes wanabes and List Lurkers

[Wally Buck]

Well said Todd!

Cold and a little rainy here yesterday but today it is supposed to be close 
to 50 with winds 10 - 15. After breakfast I am off to the lake.

Wally

>From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80 at mail.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes wanabes and List Lurkers
>Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 17:25:40 -0500
>
>    Well, I think Stan made the comment about wannabe's and lurkers as a 
>tongue-in-cheek sales pitch and he also (wittingly I am sure) now has a 
>noted disclaimer about the quality of the boats built in the mid to late 
>1970's, because the hulls were contracted out.   This is not a new bit of 
>information to most of us.  I do not think he meant to put any of us 
>project boat owners on the defensive.  Besides, the fact that we already 
>have boats, and are on the list makes us neither lurkers nor wannabes.  We 
>have decided to rebuild these boats for any number of reasons.  Primarily, 
>I made the decision because of the reputation of the Rhodes 22 design.  If 
>my boat folds up like a dixie cup while sailing, it will be because of my 
>work, and no reflection on Stan or GB.    How many $500 Rhodes 22's do you 
>see out there?  You can find $500 Mac,s, Catalinas, O'Days, etc. out there 
>all day long.  Rebuild one of them and you still have a $500 boat.  Rebuild 
>a $500 Rhodes 22 and you have a RHODES 22!  Nuf said?
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: b.ivers at att.net
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes wanabes and List Lurkers
>Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:54:12 +0000
>
> >
> > Hi there, I am able to purchase recycled or new boat, but decided
> > to buy older 1976 model because I have no other family support.
> >   I went in low budget, worked on the boat a little bit. And am
> > currantly working on becomming a safe confident sailer. I learn
> > every time I go out. Wife is still not completely sold on the idea
> > of sailing ,but with two or three positive days on the water I will
> > win her over because we have been power boating for 30 years.
> >    Then is  the time we will start talking to Stan and putting
> > together our plans for new or recycle R-22. Or maybe this boat will
> > be just fine and I will make upgrades as needed! If it's good
> > enough for Robert Dilk, and Rodger. It can be good enough for me.
> > (us)
> >    Being a wanabe and a lurker is not all bad. I love my 76, and I
> > learn by lurking. Do not post much because I don't know much. Barry
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message from "Todd Tavares"
> > <sprocket80 at mail.com>: --------------
> >
> >
> > > Ditto Roger's post (except for the $90K and engineer part) :-) I
> > > guess Sir Stanley wouldn't be inclined to describe the MOC of his
> > > fiberglass stringers? I know, I know, but I have to ask anyway.
> > > :-D Todd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Pihlaja" To:
> > > "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes
> > > wanabes and List Lurkers Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 06:04:07 -0500 >
> > > > Ben, > > Like the Walgreen's commercials say, "In a perfect
> > > world..." But, even when > I was making $K90+/year as an
> > > engineer, there were other priorities like > saving for
> > > retirement, paying off my house, saving for my kid's college, >
> > > etc. that precluded the expense of simply going out and buying a
> > > new or > recycled Rhodes 22. We all make choices in our lives. I
> > > bought an older > Rhodes 22, worked on it, my sons grew up with
> > > the boat, & we've had a lot of > wonderful adventures with it. I
> > > suspect all these project boats have more > to do with limited
> > > family resources than a desire to rebuild a boat. Yet, > they all
> > > want to go sailing someday. If the boat can be a family project >
> > > along the way; then, so much the better. Forgive me sir; but, for
> > > you to > recommend to these folks that they should go & buy a
> > > recycled Rhodes 22 and > then satisfy their desire to work on a
> > > boat by building something like an > epoxy cedar strip canoe in
> > > their garage strikes me as incredibly > insensitive. Good grief
> > > man, can't you read between the lines & see what's > going on
> > > here? > > Roger Pihlaja > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium > > -----
> > > Original Message ----- > From: "Ben Schultz" > To: "cjlowe" ;
> > > "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > > Cc: "stan" > Sent: Friday, December
> > > 10, 2004 11:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes
> > > wanabes and List Lurkers > > > > Here's my advice to would-be
> > > boat builders: First, get a recycled > > Rhodes. It's true that
> > > you want a sailboa to sail. Second, pick > > another boat that
> > > you might like to have, buy some plans, clear out some > > garage
> > > space, and start working on it. I've got the shell of a cedar > >
> > > strip canoe hogging the space in my one-car garage, much to the >
> > > > admiral's display. It gives me something to do at night when
> > > I'm not in > > the mood to sit around the house or be around
> > > people. It gives me great > > pleasure to head out to the garage,
> > > light a cigar, fix a drink, and go > > connect some wood or sand
> > > a surface smooth. In fact, if I ween't > > waiting on an order of
> > > fiberglass cloth, I would probably be out there > now. > > > >
> > > The beauty of this is that there is no hurry or stress related to
> > > the > > project boat. When I get busy at work or with a household
> > > project, the > > canoe might go untouched for a couple of months.
> > > In fact, I started > > cutting out the molds almost two years
> > > ago. It's a fun hobby. In fact, > > it makes me envy Stan,
> > > getting to build boats all day. I guess every > > man's hobby is
> > > someone else's job. > > > > Give it a whirl, > > Ben > > > >
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