[Rhodes22-list] Michael's Option List for Seaward 26RK

[William P. Barry, III]

i dont like the whole cabin layout. I think they should work out something
similar to the compac IE: bunk beds for settee, more logical head door
configuration. Apparently an aft berth won't be working with the inboard 18
however, the quarterberth doesn't seem too useful either. Maybe something
could be done to get more room back there? Seems like too much empty space
between current settee and forward berth i could move around wiuhtout any
problem and lots just floor space. Should be able to ocme up with something
more useful to make use of the space? I also would want to opt for the
bulkhead separating the forward berth from the rest of the boat. We're
strongly thinking about the boat though especially since still reasonably
trailerable and we plan to conitnue doing a lot of it. But if not the 32
seaward is GORGEOUS!!!!!!
-will
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Michael's Option List for Seaward 26RK


> some of it not on the option list, more like the punch list, the boat is
young and needs to grow up :-)
>
> They miss proped the boat, even more so on the 18hp, their not enough
clearance to swing the right prop, has to be dealt with.
>
> MJM
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William P. Barry, III" <wp.barry at att.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Michael's Option List for Seaward 26RK
>
>
> > interesting. Went down the Seward options list and think came up with
all
> > but 3?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Michael's Option List for Seaward 26RK
> >
> >
> > > here the list but a work in progress, maybe I should have the michael
> > meltzer version, might be able to save a buck ordering in bulk
> > > :-)
> > > MJM
> > >
> > >
> > > the way I am thinking now:
> > > 1)tiller, the wheel dose nothing for me other than take up room, but
real
> > issue where to put the auto-pilot
> > > 2)18 diesel, like freshwater cooled, I be able to run with antifreeze.
hot
> > water would be good
> > > 3)need a 15x11 maybe 15x12 prop, not enough clearance
> > > 4)10 inch cleats in back
> > > 5)10 spring line cleats with chocks
> > > 6)Anderson st12 selftailing winches and real size winch cleats
> > > 7)1/2 inch sheets
> > > 8) double reef main with double single line reefing lead back to
cockpit,
> > rope clutch
> > > 9)rear rail with seats
> > > 10)stainless steel port(hate leaks)
> > > 11)not sure what to do with the life lines but not what they got, to
short
> > and they will leak in the long run.
> > > 12)teak head door system(opening out), lavvac head, 20 gallon holding,
> > pumpout and overboard.
> > > 13)alcohol stove
> > > 14)135% jib on a fuller, lead to cockpit
> > > 15)need a boom vang
> > > 16)hand bilge pump(waler) in the cockpit
> > > 17)small beigle pump(500) and 4000 ghp backup
> > > 18)fixed VHF with masthead antenna
> > > 19)Ray St60 tridata
> > > 20) 2 buckhead compasss, one one each side.
> > >
> > > Thinking :-)
> > >
> > > add backstay with a "Y" and tensioner.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "William P. Barry, III" <wp.barry at att.net>
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:15 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Michael's Option List for Seaward 26RK
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think i'm missing something....what options list did you make?
> > Wouldn't
> > > > hurt to get ideas for Bulldog III, now that we saw some dream stuff
that
> > we
> > > > shoulda done on BulldogII.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 9:13 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Michael's Option List for Seaward 26RK
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > MJM
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Robert Quinn" <rjquinn at bellsouth.net>
> > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:01 AM
> > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Michael's Option List for Seaward 26RK
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Michael:  Your "options list" would indeed make the vessel a
"top
> > ender"
> > > > and
> > > > > > I would probably choose most of them myself.  The larger
cleats - a
> > > > must.
> > > > > > The stainless ports really would make her "shine."  The
instruments
> > > > would be
> > > > > > a necessity depending on where and how you plan to sail.  Prop
> > choices
> > > > are
> > > > > > always an "issue" but I can see advantages to your potential
> > choices.
> > > > The
> > > > > > stove would be a necessity.  I like your "head" choice.  The
doors
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > > Vee berth and the head would be an improvement.  May have an
issue
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > solid door for the head as room is a premium - not enough room
> > inside
> > > > and
> > > > > > the steps covering the motor would prevent opening out.  The
folding
> > > > door
> > > > > > was okay - may challenge your children for a bit but when they
> > really
> > > > need
> > > > > > the privacy, they would be able to handle it.   Shower option
would
> > be a
> > > > > > must!  Would opt for both an interior shower in the head (wet
head)
> > for
> > > > > > cooler times and a cockpit shower for better times.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > An upgrade to the cushions would be a must.  Reefing options you
> > desire
> > > > are
> > > > > > sound.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Going out a distance dictates the mast head mounted antenna for
the
> > VHF
> > > > and
> > > > > > I would add a GPS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Think" I would add a second back stay.  Probably not a
necessity
> > but I
> > > > > > would be more comfortable with it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope I hit the high points.  We looked the boat over thoroughly
(as
> > we
> > > > > > cleaned her up {:>).  She is well built and would make most
sailors
> > very
> > > > > > happy captains.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are still stuck on loving the Rhodes for when we give up the
> > Tartan
> > > > 37.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Both boats - Rhodes and Seaward - drew considerable interest at
the
> > show
> > > > and
> > > > > > thus Stan and Elton (you too Rose) should be happy campers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bob and Kathy on the "NoKaOi"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:45 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are a good man, I heard a weather report that put the temp
> > at -5
> > > > with
> > > > > > a wind-chill to -35, something about record breaking for
> > > > > > > the coldest week, for a person who live in FA, that was far
beyond
> > the
> > > > > > call of duty. My Compliments. Also thankyou, I do not think
> > > > > > > eltion could have pulled it off without you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now thats is over with :-) what did think of my option list
for
> > the 26
> > > > and
> > > > > > thier might be some people looking for a daysail in FA if
> > > > > > > they are not already hooked up :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > MJM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Robert Quinn" <rjquinn at bellsouth.net>
> > > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:02 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > MJM et al:  Michael's summary pretty much tells the story.
When
> > > > Elton
> > > > > > > > finally arrived he managed to have the boat moved into
position
> > > > early on
> > > > > > > > Friday morning.  We spent the day scrubbing and cleaning up
the
> > road
> > > > > > > > dirt/snow/ice/etc.  She cleaned up well and showed her
stuff.
> > We
> > > > raised
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > mast and hanked on the sails Saturday morning just before
the
> > show
> > > > > > opened.
> > > > > > > > The boat was the hit of the show with the story bouncing
around
> > the
> > > > hall
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > Elton's story board with the pictures of the boat off the
> > trailer
> > > > and
> > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > hoisted back on to the trailer  The trailer looked pretty
good
> > still
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > minor alignments necessary.  The van lost a running board
and
> > the
> > > > rear
> > > > > > > > bumper is twisted to the point of only being able to open
one
> > door
> > > > plus
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > fuse panel was fried, giving Elton a new career in "jury
rigging
> > a
> > > > > > wiring
> > > > > > > > system."  The boat, on the other hand, faired very well.
The
> > rudder
> > > > > > broke,
> > > > > > > > the rudder stock held  with some minor bends at the
attachment
> > > > points-
> > > > > > > > stainless is great, the mast crutch is bent, the prop shaft
is
> > out
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > alignment and one end of the prop is bent.  The bulb is
indeed
> > > > missing
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > action but, let me tell you if you were really interested in
a
> > solid
> > > > > > > > sailboat along the lines of  a 26 footer, the result of the
> > mishap
> > > > would
> > > > > > > > clearly send you in the direction of the Seaward 26RK.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A friend of Elton's got the R22 to us on Wednesday about
4:30PM.
> > > > Kathy
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > I cleaned and cleaned and cleaned some more.  We were "run
off"
> > > > around
> > > > > > 9:45
> > > > > > > > but we had managed to dig the snow out of the cockpit, spit
> > shine
> > > > the
> > > > > > hull,
> > > > > > > > and set up the rigging for a "manual lift" (the crank
assembly
> > was
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > Elton's van along with several critical clevis pins which he
> > stores
> > > > in
> > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > secret spot ((his pocket)).  Late Wednesday night and early
> > Thursday
> > > > > > morning
> > > > > > > > we rounded up pins from two of Elton's buddies and got the
> > rigging
> > > > ready
> > > > > > > > Borrowed the two friends, plus one, to "step the mast."  Set
up
> > the
> > > > > > stairs,
> > > > > > > > cleaned up the deck and cockpit, hung the "Rhodes 22"
pendants,
> > etc,
> > > > etc
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > were ready for customers by opening time at 11.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kathy and I got home a few hours ago - exhausted but safe.
> > Looks
> > > > like a
> > > > > > > > good show for GB!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We had breakfast with Elton this morning before launching
for
> > the
> > > > > > airport.
> > > > > > > > He is in good spirits, smile on his face, and looking
forward to
> > new
> > > > > > > > adventures!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A sincere thanks to the Chicago area "Rhodies" who showed up
to
> > > > cheer us
> > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > > We had a great dinner with everyone on Saturday night.  A
> > wonderful
> > > > > > group of
> > > > > > > > people!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bob and Kathy on the "NoKaOi"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 1:33 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > here the story as I know it and I do not know if I have
all
> > the
> > > > > > details,
> > > > > > > > got it from some quickly phone calls.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1)Monday night/Tuesday mooring, Eltion was moving boat
north
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > > boat
> > > > > > > > show, the seaward26 in this case. remember he needs to
> > > > > > > > > take two boats to Chicago(the rhodes22 was already
> > propositioned
> > > > 60
> > > > > > miles
> > > > > > > > from the show), The "working under time pruesser" is what
> > > > > > > > > got him, at least in my option, A bad thing to do with
> > sailboats
> > > > :-)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2)That was the night of the storm, about 120 miles north
of
> > the
> > > > plant
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > 295, going 50 mph(claims everyone was passing him). road
> > > > > > > > > were dry, so into a turn near a exit ramp and hits black
> > ice(My
> > > > option
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > drove into the frezing rain part of the storm but that
> > > > > > > > > 20/20 hind sight, 120 miles south on the coast the road
might
> > have
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > fine when he left the plant, my option.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 3)jackknife, boat trailer/van go spinning, his van loose
the
> > > > running
> > > > > > > > board, trailer looks like it smashed into the side of the
van,
> > > > > > > > > trailer very bent up, fount coupler and bar bent to hell,
> > trailer
> > > > > > messed
> > > > > > > > up where is meet the van. boat is flung from the
> > > > > > > > > trailer(remember he in the right lane, boat ends up in the
> > center
> > > > > > strip,
> > > > > > > > 2-3 lane wide road), lands on the keel. Their was some snow
> > > > > > > > > that protected the finish form "road rash" and the only
damage
> > is
> > > > the
> > > > > > lead
> > > > > > > > bulb came off where is landed on it(BTW about 400 pounds
> > > > > > > > > on the 1200 of bassist), not bad at all considering, no
crack,
> > no
> > > > > > > > buckheads broken, no hull broken/cracked,  mast hardware
fine
> > > > > > > > > etc..., bottom line the boat came thought fine and better
than
> > > > could
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > expected.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 4)"Eltion is Fucked time", Think what you would do:-) it
is
> > not
> > > > > > pretty, in
> > > > > > > > the middle of nowhere, van  smashed, trailer smashed,
> > > > > > > > > boat on the side of the road, alot of money invested in a
boat
> > and
> > > > a
> > > > > > boat
> > > > > > > > show. Lots of money flowing to make things happen, OK gets
> > > > > > > > > the trailer into a weild shop and they fix up it up along
with
> > the
> > > > > > van.
> > > > > > > > thats tuesday. gets a hold craine services for wednesday
> > > > > > > > > morring to get the boat on the trailer, but they need to
close
> > 295
> > > > to
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > it, calls the cops at first they where delaying for a few
> > > > > > > > > days then he told them he is getting the boat on the side
of
> > the
> > > > road,
> > > > > > > > "You are the boat man", apparently he is famious that every
> > > > > > > > > cop known the story on that strech of highway. He tells
them
> > about
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > boat show and they let him use the crane 900am.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 5)late and behind time he makes it to the show, but turnes
it
> > into
> > > > a
> > > > > > great
> > > > > > > > marketing optiunity to show how strong the boat is, got
> > > > > > > > > to love the guy.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > MJM
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am sure thier move but he have fill you in.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 10:15 AM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So what the heck happened?  Everyone is OK right?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Wally
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >From: Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > > > >To: kroposki at innova.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > > > > > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> > > > > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:05:54 -0500
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >I heard stan make a quote, "I guest we should use
straps"
> > :-),
> > > > I
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > shore
> > > > > > > > > > >it would have made a difference in this case, I waiting
> > > > > > > > > > >for the pictures but the trailer got turned into a
pretzel,
> > > > spent a
> > > > > > day
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > >the weild shop being rebuilt. The boat would have
simply
> > > > > > > > > > >rolled with it attached and then broken apart, maybe
> > sending a
> > > > beam
> > > > > > > > thought
> > > > > > > > > > >the hull, happened before.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >MJM
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > >From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > > > > > > > > > >To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:53 AM
> > > > > > > > > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Didn't we have a discussion about the durability of
the
> > Bulb
> > > > > > Keel
> > > > > > > > > > > > recently?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > And I think back, it was Elton who told me that I
did
> > not
> > > > need
> > > > > > cross
> > > > > > > > > > > > boat tie down straps when I got my boat.  Humm?
Would a
> > > > strap
> > > > > > > > across
> > > > > > > > > > > > the cockpit have been worth the twenty bucks it
cost?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  _/)
> > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                      Ed K
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
Behalf Of
> > > > Ronald
> > > > > > > > Lipton
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:42 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Elton's excellant
adventure
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Both the Seaward and the Rhodes 22 are being offered
at
> > a
> > > > $2000
> > > > > > > > > > > > discount at the show.  Given what happend the
Seaward is
> > in
> > > > > > > > remarkable
> > > > > > > > > > > > shape
> > > > > > > > > > > > with the exception of the bulb keel, which did not
> > survive
> > > > the
> > > > > > 70
> > > > > > > > mph
> > > > > > > > > > > > "grounding".
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ron Lipton
> > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:53 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Elton's excellant
adventure
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe GB will have a scratch and dent sail, er I
mean
> > sale
> > > > > > ....
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wally
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "keith burkhardt" <mkburk at adelphia.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Elton's excellant
adventure
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 22:03:57 -0500
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >I just got back from the  chi boat show...Elton
had
> > the
> > > > > > Seaward
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > tow
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> > this
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was
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