[Rhodes22-list] New Owner Questions ...

Robert Dobson robertdobson777 at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 16 21:04:39 EDT 2004


Roger, Thank you for your insight. So with the larger
head sail I really do not need the inside tracks. As
for my leaky problem,I have throughly gone thru the
inside of the cabin and can see no evidence of any
leaks . As to the gutters of the seats , yes I have
drains, but drilling them farther back, I am missing
something, because they would still seem to drain out
into the main cockpit in the center of the rear of the
cockpit. I addressed the lazarette possibility but no
success.  The area I have not been able to check is
the hose which leads the centerboard pennant. How do I
get at this to check It? Thanks for your help.

Bob Dobson
s/v Kee Lee--- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
wrote:
> Bob,
> 
> Question #1:
> 
> With any foresail bigger than about 100%, route the
> sheets outside of the
> shrouds on all points of sail.
> 
> Question #2:
> 
> Check the following:
> 
> Do you have drains in the gutters on the seats in
> the cockpit located in the
> extreme front corners of the cockpit, port &
> starboard?  If you do; then,
> you may have found your unattended boat leak!  Plugs
> those drain holes up
> with epoxy & redrill the drain holes in the gutters
> a couple of inches aft.
> 
> Are your cockpit seat gutter drains clogged up & not
> flowing freely?  If so,
> they may be allowing rainwater to overflow the
> cockpit seat gutters into the
> lazarette compartment, which is connected to the
> bilge.
> 
> Do you have any fittings thru the cockpit sole which
> may be leaking?  They
> may need to be rebedded.
> 
> Is the cockpit sole drain/thru hull leaking into the
> lazarette compartment?
> 
> Is the hose which leads the centerboard pennant from
> the cockpit down to the
> centerboard leaking?
> 
> Are you certain you don't have a leak from a deck
> fitting, hull deck joint,
> chain plate, or port?
> 
> Good Luck!
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Dobson" <robertdobson777 at yahoo.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 6:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Owner Questions ...
> 
> 
> > I to have a two questions for the board...---too
> > #1 my Rhodes22 does not have inside tracts
> installed.
> > I have 175 jib and Intermast main . Obviously I
> sail
> > with full blown jib out side the the shrouds. From
> the
> > discussion so far it is not a big benefit with the
> 175
> > to go inside. I shorten up to tach but otherwise I
> am
> > 100% out. Would you consider it necessary or just
> a
> > option , to be able to go inside with the 175 ?
> >
> > #2 I know that it his been way above normal in
> rain
> > fall in Wisconsin this year. Each time I go to the
> > boat, I have to bail at least a full bucket or 2
> out
> > of the bilge. I know it is not from the bottom. It
> is
> > rain water and I can not see any obvious areas the
> it
> > is coming in the cabin area. The lazerette is now
> got
> > weather stripping on it but has not cured the
> problem.
> > Are there other drains or channels that might
> allow
> > for this that I am missing? It is dry in the
> lazerette
> > as long as the water does not accumulate too much
> > before I get to bail. The areas do not seem to be
> open
> > to each other but still there is flow back and
> forth
> > between the lazerette and the bilge. Just
> wondering if
> > any one has experienced similar problems?
> >
> > Bob Dobson
> > s/v Kel Lee
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net> wrote:
> > > Sheldon,
> > >
> > > Question #1:
> > >
> > > I am assuming your foresail was reefed to less
> than
> > > 100% in these
> > > conditions.  However, if you are in doubt, if
> the
> > > clew of the foresail
> > > extended aft of the chainplate on the upper
> > > sidestays; then, you should
> > > always route the sheets outside of the shrouds.
> > >
> > > The only time you will want to route the sheets
> > > inboard of the shrouds is
> > > when you are on a point of sail more upwind than
> a
> > > beam reach with the
> > > foresail reefed to less than about 100%.  Please
> > > read the jib car tuning
> > > procedure given below.  If this procedure causes
> the
> > > sheet to become fouled
> > > on a lifelife or a shroud & you don't like the
> > > resulting sailshape; then,
> > > you should reroute the sheets &/or switch genoa
> > > tracks to eliminate the
> > > fouling.
> > >
> > > The following article was taken from the Rhodes
> 22
> > > FAQ website:
> > >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/jibcars.html
> > > JIB CAR TUNING PROCEDURE:
> > >
> > > The basic method for determining the position
> for
> > > the jib cars is to sight
> > > up the jib sheet & continue the imaginary line
> past
> > > the clew all the way to
> > > the forestay. At the proper jib car position,
> this
> > > imaginary line should
> > > intersect the midpoint on the luff of the sail.
> As
> > > the sail is reefed, the
> > > jib car position will move forward. Shift to the
> > > forward track when the rear
> > > track won't give you the proper geometry,
> usually
> > > with a foresail smaller
> > > than about 100%.
> > >
> > > The above procedure will give you an approximate
> jib
> > > car position, which can
> > > then be fine tuned thru the use of tell tales.
> The
> > > following procedure can
> > > be used for fine tuning the jib on points of
> sail
> > > from close hauled to a
> > > beam reach. On any point of sail more downwind
> than
> > > a beam reach, you should
> > > just use the above basic procedure since the
> mode of
> > > operation of the sail
> > > changes from behaving like a wing to behaving
> more
> > > like a parachute.
> > >
> > > You should have 3 tell tales about 12" back from
> the
> > > luff & equally spaced
> > > down the luff of the sail. Usually, tell tales
> are
> > > installed with a small
> > > window so the sail trimmer can see the tell tale
> on
> > > both sides of the sail
> > > without having to duck their head under the
> sail.
> > > The sail is properly
> > > trimmed when the windward & leeward tell tales
> at
> > > all 3 positions are
> > > streaming backwards. The proper jib car position
> is
> > > determined by either the
> > > jib trimmer pulling in slightly on the jib sheet
> or
> > > the helmsman pinching up
> > > slightly into the wind while watching the
> behavior
> > > of the tell tales. (This
> > > test is done slowly) If the top tell tales
> flutter
> 
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